Why are women turned off by even the most trivial of male insecurities?

HateSpeechFanBoy · 2022-11-11T04:58:58+00:00

They are hypocrites, simple as that. You can also see it with the whole abortion thing, consequence free sex is their right but lonely men are not entitled to sex.

The_FatGuy_Strangler · 2022-11-11T11:13:11+00:00

As a guy this rings 100% true in my experience. Just as an example I was talking to someone I met online. She was telling me all her insecurities, but the minute I mention mine, I get ghosted. Guys are not allowed to have insecurities

NotARussianBot1984 · 2022-11-11T13:06:46+00:00

If women didn't have double standards, they have no standards.

Hypergamy means men must be better or they are invisible.

Outside of sex drive, men act more like humans than animals. Can't say the same for women, still driven by biology. Makes sense, they are less evolved since less pressure on them to reproduce. Look at men: natural selection (IE: evolution) has made us taller, stronger, smarter, but also more variable.

EulenWatcher · 2022-11-11T03:13:18+00:00

Are they really? Most people have some things they are insecure about, what matters is the severity of it, how it affects their life and how they deal with it.

Extreme insecurity makes it hard to form bonds and keep them, it’s hard ti be around this person and to constantly validate them over it. It’s something men themselves complain a lot.

Confidence is also an important part of what is expected from a man. Just as higher agreeableness is expected from women. Unfortunately, the majority of people still do have at least some gendered expectations even if they don’t subscribe to strict gender roles.

no_bling_just_ding · 2022-11-11T10:11:57+00:00

they have enough leverage to select guys without said insecurities

market forces. im a woman, i dont like john, i can download tinder and find jeff who's taller and more alpha than him.

2022-11-11T11:36:14+00:00

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takethelovepill · 2022-11-11T15:36:35+00:00

Instead of whining about this, a smart man could see this as a huge advantage. He could see that if he chooses to not display insecurities he would be seen as a strong leader to a woman, a guy who has it together in the relationship and a woman could lean on him and respect him for not being a basket case. But nah men have to whine about their bullshit and look to women to be their therapists instead. Then wonder why women ghost and don’t want to stay.

Slyfer_Seven · 2022-11-11T04:00:27+00:00

You have any examples that aren't height? I ask because a height insecurity isn't something that could be considered trivial. Some dudes build whole personalities and lives centered around being short...

SwimmingTheme3736 · 2022-11-11T08:18:37+00:00

I see far far more men pitching fits about things like this than women.

If you so t like bigger women that’s absolutely fine, move on to someone else.

If a woman likes taller men then that’s fine too she can move on to the next person

In the same way if you don’t like how many men a woman has had sex with move along

RatDontPanic · 2022-11-11T04:35:14+00:00

Insecurity is the opposite to security. If you had to rely on a man to feed/protect you and your children would you rather the insecure man or the secure man.

Despite the blue pill claim that evolutionary psychology is a pseudoscience the reality is a significant amount of our behaviour has primitive origins.

RatDontPanic · 2022-11-11T11:33:11+00:00

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Best_Illustrator_137 · 2022-11-11T17:30:57+00:00

It all basically boils down to double standards women never wanna acknowledge unless it doesn’t benefit them directly..it’s the whole grown children mentality..I’ve seen girls reject dudes for the smallest detail they don’t like but a man voices a big one like weight and it’s met with all kinds of hate..you just gotta accept the child like mentality and it makes you see things in a new perspective.

social_mule · 2022-11-11T20:35:38+00:00

You summed it up perfectly. Don't expect any well thought out differing opinions because you won't be getting any.

upalse · 2022-11-13T01:19:31+00:00

Insecurity in men is a huge turn-off for women and yet women are just as riddled with insecurities as men are.

So? Are you one of those retards who insist that there should be equal standards for both men and women?

Go tell your mom she's fat, I dare you.

Green-Quantity1032 · 2022-11-12T18:27:35+00:00

What excuse? What are you trying to achieve?

Lets say it's not fair - so? You gonna put up a sign so women will date you?

Either become attractive or don't, what's all this "wemen should date lesser men" bs?

Would you date unattractive women if you were hot? no, you'd tell them you have a girlfriend, at best.

And yeah a lot of women are insecure, and they look for certainty in their men. When men are insecure it creeps them the fuck up.

You want something to complain about? People giving men advice about crying and being insecure around women - that's some gaslighting advice right there.

You want women to not be women? Ask one of those out then

AwakenTheSavage · 2022-11-11T19:53:34+00:00

Core trauma turns anyone off, unless you’re a Codependent people-pleaser/fixer/rescuer type.

When a grown man has deep insecurities he doesn’t know how to fix, it makes women feel unsafe. It makes women go “ew, his mother must not have loved him if he expects me to act like her.” That turns them off. It makes sense for her to take care of a helpless child, but calming a grown man’s insecurities is something that repulses her and often times she herself won’t even know why.

Admirable_Bee_8714 · 2022-11-12T13:11:28+00:00

Women will do and say shit until a man puts them in their place.

Siukslinis_acc · 2022-11-13T00:10:17+00:00

Men still shame women for their weight.

Why can't men make a body positivity movement based on their height?

INTP-1 · 2022-11-13T05:43:04+00:00

If men had the same attitude toward women's insecurities as women have toward men's insecurities we'd be extinct as a species.

You answered your own question and apparently aren't aware. Men are designed to be more desperate, women far less so. Women are turned off by male weakness because they can get away with it, and it's arguably genetically advantageous for them to do so.

hoofoof · 2023-01-22T11:09:53+00:00

Don't complain, if she's showing insecurities use them against her like she would against you.

Just make sure the insecurities are real and not a pity story to gain sympathy points from you.

Brandy96Ros · 2023-02-01T01:54:54+00:00

Men do have the same attitude. Every time a woman expresses body dissatisfaction a parade of men always dismiss her and tell her that ackshually only women care about those things, even though it's mainly men who body shame women.

Brandy96Ros · 2023-02-01T01:56:34+00:00

Where do you get the idea that men are more insecure than women? Women tend to have way more insecurities than men and body image issues, mainly due to men.

Title	Why are women turned off by even the most trivial of male insecurities?
Author	RatDontPanic
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Date	November 11, 2022 1:46 AM UTC (4 months ago)
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