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why aren't ones who say men ''peak at 35-45'' or that ''being chubby or balding is manly'' not shamed much here

kokorwqac
October 1, 2022
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people complain a lot about older women thinking they are pretty or better here, but isn't such delusions much more widespread among men?

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Title why aren't ones who say men ''peak at 35-45'' or that ''being chubby or balding is manly'' not shamed much here
Author kokorwqac
Upvotes 14
Comments 41
Date October 1, 2022 6:48 AM UTC (3 months ago)
Subreddit /r/AllPillDebate
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Comments

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 4 points5 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

As a woman I think most men do peak older, not all. It could be that my preferences are broader filled out men with out baby faces. While I have friends who prefer more baby faces men.

I’m all for everyone feeling good about themselves, thining on top? Rock out your shaved head

Boobs not once what they were, that’s what push-up bras are for

Hair greying, get to the salon if it makes you feel better

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

can't realte, i'm in college and boys at highschool looked better

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Girls in high school looked better too. What's your point?

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

girls at 20s and 15 look almost the same lol

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Not entirely. Girls in their 20's are legal and dress a lot more mature than girls who are 15. So not really the same. Age brings with it a certain degree of confidence. Problem for women is that at some point the package is confidence with the looks of a dented Toyota Supra. No one's going to wife that up.

[–]Liberated_Asexual 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

No they don't, women look considerably aged after college. All that junk food and alcohol.

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m older and have been boys from school in recent years who are now fine that I would t of looked at twice

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

why aren't ones who say men ''peak at 35-45'' or that ''being chubby or balding is manly'' not shamed much here

I’m guessing because probably 98% of this sub are men.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

a lot of guys here complain about post-wall women but again, i think women are more ''blackpilled'' about age.

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women innately know that their youth is of value. Over the last decade I have witnessed women's movements try and run PR campaign after PR campaign to push the idea that women in their 40's and 50's are awesome and no different than their younger counterparts. They have also made it a point to sell the idea that men should be a-ok raising some other guys kid.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

women at 40's or 50's don't look great, but you're telling this to someone who dislikes how most men at 30's look

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 2 points3 points  (18 children) | Copy Link

why aren't ones who say men ''peak at 35-45''

It is true tho.

that ''being chubby or balding is manly'' not shamed much here

No man says that.For balding,you can say that as most man don't want to go through it.Some men says this as women are more accepting of bald man that men are for accepting bald woman unless she wears wig and hide it perfectly lol.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 2 points3 points  (17 children) | Copy Link

most men aare objectively ugly after 25

objectively ugly under 25 too, but you get what i mean

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 3 points4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

25? Looool how old are you?

[–]kokorwqac[S] -1 points0 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

22, already think highschool boys were better looking but im still a virgin

sad agepill

[–]decoy88A Black Dude♂️ 2 points3 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Weird. But not unusual in these spaces.

It’s like an arrested development attraction.

[–]TheOffice_Account 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

most men aare objectively ugly after 25

lmao, this is how I know you're a young kid

[–]kokorwqac[S] -1 points0 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

22

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, a young kid. You still have your mothers breast milk on your breath.

[–]Lost-Zebra6453 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nah my partner is 28 (we both are) and damn he’s so fine. I’ve seen pics of him in high school and I think he looks way better now much more masculine

[–]greedyleopard42 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

a lot of guys are balding crazy early is one thing i’ve noticed

[–]FastBananaViral -1 points0 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Balding indicates high testosterone. I have low testosterone so am not balding

[–]kokorwqac[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

got tested?

eh, there are a lot of soyboys who bald while men with masculine big builds who don't, it's moreso DHT

there are even racial differences between balding, while no real difference between racial t

[–]kokorwqac1 points [recovered] (2 children) | Copy Link

got tested?

eh, there are a lot of soyboys who bald while men with masculine big builds who don't, it's moreso DHT

[–]FastBananaViral 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I didn’t get tested, I just don’t look very masculine

[–]kokorwqac[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

can't really know without testing, but still a lot of soyboys bald and a ot of manly looking men don't

there are also racial differences in balding, but not raial hormone levels

[–]House-MDMA 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Balding is also indicative of age and while men can have kids at any age there is increased chance for deleterious mutations with increased ages of the father. This is why balding is generally seen as unattractive in men despite being a sexually dimorphic characteristic.

[–]kokorwqac[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

its generally not t but DHT

even then, men generally have more t and DHT before 40's, so it's also a sign of your body getting weaker to the effects of it, per se.

[–]greedyleopard42 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

balding isn’t high testosterone it’s like your body being “allergic” or intolerant to a type of testosterone. if you don’t have this issue you can have a lot of testosterone and not go bald.

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Because the thing that men are selected for by women is their ability to:

1: produce healthy progeny (ie, good genes - so handsome, tall, muscular, dominant) - but that's for sex.

2: protect that progeny (ie, have resources - so rich, status, dominant, physically powerful) - but that's for relationships.

Now, having plenty of muscle demonstrates both. And it is possible for men to put on muscle for pretty much their entire lives, although it does get more difficult as you get older.

And men tend to have more resources the older they are.

This means men's attractiveness to women does not peak in their teens or twenties. Fact.

Women though? Women are selected by men for relationships for their ability to:

1: produce healthy progeny (ie good genes - so beauty and fertility markers like boobs etc)

2: not die during childbirth (so... young and healthy)

3: not be a paternity fraud risk (so not a slut).

For sex? only 1 and 2 apply.

Is it fair? no.

Is it the way it is? yes.

[–]kokorwqac[S] -1 points0 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

isn't that becoming more obsolete as women start to make money themselves and a lot of men are broke even at 30's?

[–]De_Carabas_of_Below -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope.

This is driven by genetics, not personal choice.

Next question?

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not really. Women like the idea of being able to make their own money but what they really want is the option to make their own money and play stay at home mommy - the only way you are achieving that is if you have someone who is competent and can earn.

[–]RStonePTRedPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

do you have a link to what you're talking about because it makes no sense

[–]keepin2002 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Peak at 34-35 in status not in physicality or looks

[–]boomershack 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Rip English 😔🕊️

Are you saying... Actually idk what you're saying or what you're tryna say.

[–]FishTank34 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men peak the same age women peak, change my mind. You wont

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

There are individual cases where this is true. But in general women peak early. Their best years are in their 20's and provided they don't eat themselves to the size of a walrus they can push that into their late 30's. But after that it's all gone as father time ravages everyone. With men however our value isn't so much in our looks but in our ability to provide resources. Women in general don't expect their men to be cute, rather they are generally attracted to rugged handsomness and utility. Show her that you are handy with tools and the modern day woman literally will cream her panties.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

men hit the wall too

but most of them didn't have a heyday in the first place

[–]Admirable_Bee_8714 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Of course, because a mans value isn't in his looks.

[–]no_bling_just_dingWhitePill (self aware MSTOW) 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

i dont think looks are all that matter in a man but this is where you and me have to part ways

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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