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Why do women have to have a hoe phase

August 18, 2022
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Why do women think they need to have a hoe phase and why do they expect a relationship at the age of 30? Why are men expected to marry these women especially men with low n count? I got these information on articles online and such as cosmopolitan, bustle and other dating and women articles?

I personally don't want to date a women who engaged in casual sex as in their 20's and wants a relationship in her late 20 or early 30. Her ability to seperate sex from romance is scary to me. I don't want to be with someone who treats sex so meanigless and emotionless. I don't want to be an after thought she ends up with because she is done "having fun" do you know how upsetting that is. You all are just delaying romance for no good reason at all.

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Title Why do women have to have a hoe phase
Author gardenfan167
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Date August 18, 2022 1:57 PM UTC (3 months ago)
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[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 8 points9 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I'm a dude and I have never been able to enjoy casual sex. It's hard for me to even get it up for a stranger. I like to kiss and cuddle first to get comfortable. A lot of these thots just want you to get hard instantly. And I've tried Viagra and Cialis. These pills are only good for blood flow problems. They don't correct for not being in the mood mentally.

I've been with 9 women, a transwoman and 14 hookers. So I've tried casual sex. It never seems to work out for me.

[–]BumblingBeta 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's not something that gets discussed a lot because women get offended + men are horny and want sex with anything, but a lot of women are terrible in bed. They either don't know what to do or are too lazy.

I've experienced the same as you (although I never took drugs to make me hard). It's rare to find a woman in bed who is proactive, not lazy, knows what she's doing, values intimate foreplay and doesn't expect you to be instantly hard. I only found 1 myself and the sex was very nice, far better than anything with other women I was with. It makes a big difference. Unfortunately because of logistics we couldn't see each other again.

It wasn't your fault you couldn't get hard in those instances. When you've been with a woman who is really attracted to you, doesn't rush you and cares for your arousal and pleasure, you'll realize the woman you're with and her attitude makes a massive difference.

I wonder if anyone agrees?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your response 🙂

I wonder why women and men feel like they need to partake in casual sex

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Me personally, I tried casual sex because I consumed a lot of porn and I thought that was what I wanted. But porn is not real life. It feels really awkward to get naked with a stranger. It took me like maybe 15 minutes cuddling with my second serious gf in order to get hard. A lot of thots don't have the patience for that shit.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again thank you for sharing your story I appreciate it

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe you

[–]BumblingBeta 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Mainly because it's part of the culture these days, makes you feel like you fit in, makes you respected and admired by your peers. Yes, girls giggle with each other when one of their friends gets laid with an attractive guy, a lot of girls enjoy being slutty. Guys like it as well, unless they're not getting laid, then they will say sluts are bad and rage on red pill, incel and mgtow forums.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

True lol

[–]250umdfail 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

With hookers I get it. But where are you finding women that want no foreplay, and straight action. Most of my hookups involve kissing, making out with clothes on, grinding, stripping, more kissing and making out naked, then fingering her, and making her go down on me. At least 30-45 minutes of foreplay before even attempting penetration.

No one expects you to have an instant hard on. You just need to take your own time. You might be demisexual though, but that's a different issue.

[–]alienamongnormiesBlackPill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But where are you finding women that want no foreplay, and straight action.

When I think back to the women who ghosted me because I couldn't get it up fast enough for them: POF, OKCupid, Craigslist/Doublelist and similar sites like that (Craigslist personals and casuals is down)

You could potentially argue Bumble to that list. But I think she ghosted me for a different reason because she did still seem eager texting after the date. It was something that happened while we were texting a few days later that turned her off and got her to ghost me. She was giving me a handjob while I was driving (she initiated, I didn't ask for it) and I was only semi-hard because I was driving and trying to concentrate on the road. lol.

It's also possible I might be demisexual.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol

[–]HeadDot141 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

“A lot of these thots” Funny how you call them thots but here you are sleeping with hookers💀 It classifies yourself a thot as well

[–]MAGA-Latino 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I think it's because of two reasons. 1) they get off knowing that they were able to get money from men. In "city girl" culture the more money and caliber of man they get equals to higher social status for them.

2) they really think that some Simp will always be there to save them no matter what. Doesn't matter if they got a million bodies or a million kids. They think that nice guy that was in love with them in high school is still there waiting and will still jump at the chance to finally get with her. They refuse to accept that we are in a beta male revolution.

[–]Peacesquad 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well said

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 4 points5 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It’s not a deliberate choice, really. They are as dominated by their genetic imperatives as we are.

Put those imperatives together with modern society, dating apps etc and you get the current situation.

The hoe phase is what you get when they have a subconscious drive to get impregnated by the guys with the best genetics possible (alpha fucks), combined with a society that enables them to have sex with minimal risk (of pregnancy, unfunded motherhood, whatever).

The phase ends when they realise The Wall is approaching, and they’d better find a beta bux to give them safety and security.

Problems arise when they still want alpha fucks after that point.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 4 points5 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I believe it is a choice. Even with biology, it can be explained.

Generally human reproduction is considered K-strategy. AKA monogamous, long-term, high parental investment.

Then you have mammals like rats or bunnies, which is considered R-strategy. AKA as many babies as possible, with the least amount of investment.

There's this study that shows, women who come from fatherless homes are more likely to adopt R-strategy. And vice versa, women who is raised with a strong father presence is more likely to adopt K-strategy.

Then you take all of that, and add in all your other points, like birth control, feminist indoctrination, online dating, etc... and what happens is you shift the bell curve over a standard deviation from K-dominate to R-dominate.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I think the biology is more of an underlying drive. It's possible to override it with the application of willpower or if there are other imperatives that have a stronger effect.

Science seems to have a slightly rose-tinted view with regards human reproduction. They kind of gloss over things like Genghis Khan's genetic legacy, the development of harems and polygamy in certain parts of the world, and so on.

Monogamous relationships benefit society, but not necessarily the individual male. From the Dawkins perspective, the most successful male in history is Genghis Khan.

[–]HodgekinWhitePill 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think the biology is more of an underlying drive. It's possible to override it with the application of willpower or if there are other imperatives that have a stronger effect.

I agree that biology has an underlying drive. Like if someone threatens you, your biological response is to freeze, run-away, or fight. Then to top it off, if you're a male, you predispose to being violent (if you're not a soy boy, lol).

To further explain the idea of R / K theory, is that R theory is advantageous in situation of uncertainty. While K theory is advantageous in stable environment.

Here's some next level stuff, if you are open to some new ideas.

My theory (and I'm sure I'm not the first to make this claim, but I haven't heard anyone else made it yet), is there a heighten sense of instability in the west because of the propaganda machine. I'll list a few things. 1) Global warming panic. 2) Racism. 3) Sexism. 4) Global recession. Etc. etc. Now, who's more likely to adopt r-strategy? Liberals. What's in the mind of these liberals? Patriarchy is real. Men are rapist. I'm always oppressed as a woman. Global warming will end the world in 10 years. Republicans are literally nazi terrorist and Trump is Hitler. The police are racist bigots that will kill without warning. Etc. Etc. Etc.

I know, western woman are one of the most privilege people on the planet, and their life is more secure than ever before. But that's not what they believe. Their actions are based in their emotions.

ANYWAYS. So you got your explanation, about hypergamy, which I 100% agree with. They will seek the top G. On top of that. You got this whole r / k theory. So they running amok, sleeping with loads of top Gs.

Monogamous relationships benefit society, but not necessarily the individual male.

True. But... what benefits society also benefits the individual male too. Here's an example. If you're a top G and get all the pussy, what's going to happen? Men are going to revolt and attack you. So what does a top G do? He give "enough" men access to sex, and then builds a coalition to defend against the men who don't have access. That's the beginning of a society.

The you have a group of disgruntle men who waste all their time and energy on getting access to sex, and then here's the brilliant part.... you give them access to sex to, now they're devoting their time and energy inventing new technology and advancing civilization.

The top G benefits from all of that. Maybe instead of having a harem like Genghis Khan, he'll settle for a handful of beautiful women if it means society goes from wandering nomads to high tech self driving cars.

From the Dawkins perspective, the most successful male in history is Genghis Khan.

No doubt, Genghis Khan was a top G. I understand it's an example to explain a biological urge. But exceptions don't make the rule. If everyone was a Genghis Khan, most men would be dead, and as a strategy reproducing, it can only be performed by a very small % of men. As a general rule, which is based on 99% of human reproduction, humans adopted the K strategy. And that's not for the man or the woman benefit. It's for the infant benefit. Because baby infants are the most useless and weak creature imaginable. Large heads that they can't even turn. No motor skills. Can't even fed itself. All it does is cry if it's stress. I'm sure that would help a lion find you faster.

We adopt K strategy to give the best success for our genetic offspring.

[–]SaltyGeekyLifter 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don’t think we’re disagreeing much.

Genghis Khan was indeed a bit of a unique specimen, but the (voluntary) formation of harems and polygamy is proof that there are occasions where both the male and female drives coincide to produce this situation.

What does the female get? Resources. Safety. Status.

We aren’t really too dissimilar to Chimpanzee society, with the exception that human females have actually physically evolved to be able to lie to men about paternity (Google “concealed ovulation”)

Chimps are broadly pair-bonded, but low status females like to approach high-status males for a crafty shag (alpha fucks AND beta bux) The males like this, which results in the high status females actually guarding them and being aggressive towards the low status females.

Unsurprisingly, low status males don’t get much action. Sound familiar?

Human genes are extremely close to chimpanzees, which means our lizard brains are virtually identical. The only real difference that might affect sexual preferences is the aforementioned concealed ovulation. Chimps don’t have it.

[–]RealNiceLady 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do women think they need to have a hoe phase

The culture makes it necessary.

why do they expect a relationship at the age of 30?

They know they need to settle down at thirty.

Why are men expected to marry these women especially men with low n count?

No one expects that.

Her ability to seperate sex from romance is scary to me

She doesn't really have that ability.

You all are just delaying romance for no good reason at all.

Women have casual sex in order to get romance.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Your name speaks the truth thanks for being nice to me I appreciate it. People forget there is an actual human being on the other side with feelings. I didn't mean to make this about women but more so about hookup culture I wish I can change the title

[–]Peacesquad 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Facts

[–]h1shman 3 points4 points  (33 children) | Copy Link

They choose to. Sex is fun. Going out and getting split in half by guys like me is fun. They also enjoy romance and can choose to wait until their late 20s to seriously try and find a man for that purpose.

Some men and most women have AF/BB strategies

[–]Environmental_Lie561 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I find alpha men repulsive. I am a sigma female and I just don’t like them. I like men who are soft and sweet who bring out my soft sweet side.

[–]Hyena_UtopiaBlackPill 3 points4 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Sentiments like this are not too uncommon and red pillers who insist on this being a lie are delusional. It does make bluepilled normies ears perk up. I feel like it only gives them false hope though, heres why:

What you're talking about is only the alpha personality type, Im assuming. You'd still prefer your boy to be tall, chiseled jaw, a seriously cute face. I'm right about that, am I not? No hate, what I want is more clarity. Us men tend to equate physical character traits with being 'alpha', hence the confusion.

EDIT: You flirting back with Chad in this thread confirms it. Again, no hate. I just want to know the honest truth, instead of living in delusions. Best regards.

[–]Environmental_Lie561 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have cluster B personality disorder. I honestly just want a man who is willing to play mental chess with me and love bomb me, I value faithfulness and admiration/attention over anything. My idea of handsome would and does make most women repulsed... except my late husband and one other ex that was hot. I do not like men who have high self esteem, who put their career before me, who won’t chase me, who withhold etc I like the game of you figuring me out and being clingy and then I want to be clingy at times. I need a place where I feel safe and not on edge. I’m a sapiosexual and also a denisexual. Romance me and chase me, lovingly correct me when needed and take your correction as well, brutal yet kind honesty... enmesh and engulf me 😍 also, I find no interest in this person who is flirting with me because he admits to being a whore, big turn off to me. I’m looking for Madonna not the whore. If I was to to give in I would only use him for sex and never see a future with him just like my ex, because he gave off too many whore vibes. I’m a Madonna who has urges to have a FWB but I keep my demons on a leash.

[–]h1shman 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Oh, are you just assuming I’m alpha? 🥹

I can be sweet too. DM me and I’ll give you an oil massage while telling you how sexy you are.

[–]Environmental_Lie561 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah but the thing is, I don’t like to be touched until you figure out my puzzle to get to my mind, then my heart, then my box.

[–]h1shman 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Don’t threaten me with a good time

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad -1 points0 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

Exactly this. I dont know why some men are upset that women live free and have fun.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Because it's somewhat humiliating to be the second table dish and have to work hard to receive something that other people got very easily some time ago?
There's also the fact that nothing guarantees your partner will decide to continue having sex with those people while she is with you...

Women are free to have no-strings-attached sex with whomever they want and then pursue a serious relationship with other kind of people.
Men are free to think and feel whatever they want about this behavior and act in consquence.

I'm asking in a genuine way here:
How would you feel if you were in a romantic relationship with someone who has had intense sex with another person(s), without any commitment, but asks you for a lot of requirements and effort just to be able to hold her hand?

It's complex, don't you think?

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad -2 points-1 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

How would you feel if you were in a romantic relationship with someone who has had intense sex with another person(s), without any commitment, but asks you for a lot of requirements and effort just to be able to hold her hand?

I dont care, I'd leave and have sex with the next tinder match. Easy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Haha, come on!
You know well that not all men can simply move on to the next match...

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Who cares about those women

[–]ManWazoA poly Chad 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

I do because they are human beings and idc about ncounts.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Good for you I guess

[–]Bikerbats 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

Careful, your facade is slipping.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

What?

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

What’s your ethnicity?

[–]h1shman 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

Caucasian

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Like from the Caucasus?

[–]h1shman 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

In America we just call all white people Caucasian regardless of where we descended from

[–]Marzipan-Happy[🍰] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

.... I never had a hoe phase. I considered the risk of pregnancies a d sti's and noped on out of that life marker.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your answer 🙂

[–]Search-United 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Future “it’s a evil world we live in, but hey i’ma keep livin and lovin’ life”

[–]TriggurWarning 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

It has been hypothesized (accurately) that there are two basic phenotypes of people in this world, those more inclined towards monogamous relationships and polygamous ones. It is the women (and men) who fall on the more polygamous end of the distribution curve that feel a need to sexually explore and have many partners before settling down. It is thought this dualistic sexual drive helped humans survive many different types of environments when one mode of sexual reproduction is superior to another and visa versa. A biomarker for this is exposure to pre-natal testosterone in the womb, which is correlated to the 2D:4D digit ratio on your hand (not perfectly correlated though).

Hope that helps.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

This is the kind of answer I was looking for, scientific free from disgusting liberal politics thank you so much. But my question is how could the monogamous relationship phenotypes remain stable over type and can this phenotype be eliminated or protected?

[–]TriggurWarning 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm not an evolutionary psychologist, so you would probably have to direct your inquiry to someone who specializes in the evolution of human traits. But I will attempt to answer your question anyway by using some educated speculation.

I believe these traits evolved along dual lines for a variety of reasons. The monogamous reproductive strategy excels at stable reproduction of highly successful and competent people. It is weakest when there is a period of great chaos, food scarcity, war, etc. That is when keeping the race itself alive is much more important than any concerns one might have about overall fitness to excel, survival comes first and foremost. It's essentially a partially regressive form of reproduction unless carried out very selectively.

So to put it quite simply, it was primarily monogamy that allowed humans to thrive and rise far above the other animals of the world. This is the civilizing nature of humanity, that aspect of us that allows for the formation and stability of civilizations. It was polygamy that allowed us to survive ice ages, civilizational collapse situations, wars, famines, droughts, disease, and other calamities that continuously afflict us and threaten the total annihilation of our species.

Think about the conditions in prehistoric times. Hunting grounds were often scarce. Two waring tribes attack one another. One side completely kills every adult male in the opposing tribe. All of the women there would be faced with a very difficult choice. Either ally with the new, stronger men or remain loyal to the memory of your dead partner and die, suffer, and never have any children. You can see how having a preference for polygamy might be beneficial on an individual level to help you cope with such a stressful situation.

What causes stability of the phenotypes over time is the relative success that one mode of reproduction has on 'long term successful reproduction, not just short term.' Because the human environment often changes back and forth (hard times vs good times) in a cyclical pattern.

As a society we can ensure balance of these phenotypes by social devices such as 'slut shaming' and economic devices such as limiting access to welfare for single mothers. By forcing women to face economic degradation and even ridicule if they associate with the wrong man, we ensure they are forced to settle for a less masculine, but far more stable and reliable partner than they would choose absent such concerns. As they see other women around them severely consequenced for poor decision making skills, they are reminded to remain quite practical in their assessment of men. The problem is when poverty becomes entrenched in particular communities (such as those that inhabit the ghettos of many of our cities), the need for abortion becomes essential as a firewall against being overpopulated by polygamous and unwise reproduction.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

If you go to allpill debate server I posted to a similar thoeory as you by essentially saying is society was more stable there would be less hooking up. I don't think societies need slut shaming or restricting welfare to ensure commitment. I think they are just painting chaos with order instead of transforming chaos into order.

[–]TriggurWarning 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you could provide a direct link to your theory I'd be happy to consider other ideas on this matter. I forgot to mention it in my OP, but I am a strict believer in the old adage:

"Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”

So it is clear to me, there is something adverse happening reproductively and/or socially that causes this instability to become manifested in stable societies. We see in history the almost inevitability of such outcomes. Complex systems in advanced societies interact with free will and overabundance of resources in such a way as to produce the growing instability socially that will lead to the demise of such complexity. Once fully degenerated, opposing forces begin to exert a disproportionate impact on social development to produce a revitalization and rebirth of civilization elsewhere. But sometimes this degeneration can persist far longer than we anticipate (dark ages for example).

It's been my observation, that many very successful people have an almost cuckish quality to them. This could be perceived as a personal failing on their part, as it assumes that other men are more 'fit' to reproduce than they are under the current environmental conditions. And there may be some truth to their underlying concerns, that while they may possess many good beta male traits, they are lacking in more alpha characteristics that would balance out their overall demeanor and approach to life in general. To what degree however this cuckishness is a socially learned behavior or partially has a genetic basis is uncertain (perhaps both). This is an instance where the dual mating strategy for women could be disproportionately successful, where a woman literally 'cucks' her beta into raising an alpha's child.

[–]hari_hbp 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Simple. It's fun, pleasurable, exciting - they have enough options for partners to do the deed, it helps with sexual exploration and fantasies.

They don't "have" to have a hoe phase, it's their choice. That desire shouldn't be shamed and men who don't want to be with them because of lifestyle differences shouldn't be shamed either.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is too bluepil for me I apologize

[–]hari_hbp 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You don't have to apologize because you disagreed.

But tell me - is there anything wrong about what I said? Is there anything morally despicable?

If not and it's just your personal preference, no explanations needed.

[–]rurunoa -1 points0 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Are you being held at gunpoint to marry these women? we all know they are not entitled to any of these things so why worry. you dont have to give them anything

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If I say yes will this develop into an entertaining conversation?

[–]rurunoa -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

we can make 1 million versions of this argument. why do people want something that they according to you or someone else, don’t deserve? i don’t worry what these people do. of course this is different when you have been lied to or are being forced to engage with them. otherwise it does not matter. There are plenty of promiscuous men that also want to settle with a virgin. I just accept it now. After all i am not the virgin who is going to marry them. People should focus on finding someone who is similar to them/share a mindset instead of complaining about the people that aren’t or don’t share the mindset

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

But the number of these people are increasing and principal romanctics like me are decreasing. I am worried people like me will not exist in a better world where we can enjoy romance in our youth till death without poverty, deadly crime, or any other bullshit. I don't want society to decouple sex from romance I like associating sex as exclusively romantic gestures.

[–]rurunoa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

i am the same way, we have to accept that other people entitled to their own values. if anything, you would want someone who is also steadfast in their morals and values, and not someone who is easily swayed by society right? Have respect for yourself and don’t feel like you need to settle for someone that has fundamentally different values. Be comfortable with the idea of being alone if you have to be, but i can assure you there ARE women with the same mindset

[–]Ganajin -3 points-2 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

Most women have low body counts, no hoe phase at all. Get off Reddit.

[–][deleted] 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Who are you? You sound kind of upset to me I apologize if I have made you upset

[–]Ganajin 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I said "get off Reddit" not because I am upset but because you are getting factually incorrect information from people with an agenda.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

But a lot of women support this agenda as a feminist agent and can brainwash youth. My friends sister told him that she wants a hoe phase just so she can feel empowered

[–]Ganajin -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I dunno what to tell you, most women are inhibited and shy about this sort of thing. How much power can a "feminist agenda" have that your red pill agenda does not? How is the former so godlike and powerful? Hint: it's not.

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 1 point2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I mean… do you have stats to back this up?

[–]Ganajin -1 points0 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

You can google this yourself.

[–]CoverYourAwrahMaroon Pill 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

This isn’t how you debate…

[–]Ganajin 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I am at work

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (6 children) | Copy Link

Same reason as man.Some chose to participate thinking they are not going to get partner anyway.Some do it thinking it is going to fill their void.Women including me are just simply jealous of fact that man can seperate love and sex.Thats why.

By the way,there is pink pill too?Goddamit we are really going to get rainbow pill.What is that?There is some social media group where pinkpill is actually beauty or fashion tips and skincare routines

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

You shouldn't be jealous of how people can seperate sex from love

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why not?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Because coupling sex with romance increase more positive emotions

[–]Glad-Discount-4761 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Yeah.I mean in such way that you kind of get sensitive, feeling easily arise,it affects if you give sex to man and then relationship ends.Men don't have to worry about it.

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So true, some men do have their hoe phase too. Call it what it is.

[–]MacaqueOfTheNorth 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

They don't have to. Most women I know that are my age got into a serious relationship with one of the first men they dated for a few years. They slept around more after that didn't work out.

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 0 points1 point  (19 children) | Copy Link

Because sex is fun Experimenting is fun

You don’t have to marry anyone you don’t want to

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (18 children) | Copy Link

Not really right if that was the case then we should all be doing it

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

Why shouldn’t they if they want to?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (16 children) | Copy Link

Are you saying everyone need to have casual sex

[–]SwimmingTheme3736 0 points1 point  (15 children) | Copy Link

No not at all

Some women enjoy it, it’s their choice too

[–]Siukslinis_acc 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women don't have to have a hoe phase if they don't want to.

It's easyer to experiment and finding out your likes/dislikes when you are young and don't have much responsibilities and commitment. By experimenting and trying various things you might find out what you are actually seeking.

It's kinda similar to trying out various fields (working/volunteering there) before you go to university.

So a hoe phase could be seen as a sexual exploration phase.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Why do people have happy and healthy relationship from highschool.

[–]Siukslinis_acc 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because they found what they like on the first try?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah I played Mario I love mario

[–]kor1998 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

men have an instinct to ensure paternity, hence will only give hoez sex attraction not relationship attraction like you have the instinct for security for the future. (also exclusive sexual access not ad. yourself to other online, like you have exclusive resource access). There is only truth / biology, and lies. Not various colors of pills lol. RP is a praxeology

[–]Drive-By-CuckersWhitePill 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Idk why do young boys sleep around in high school and college? Teenagers and people in their 20’s are the horniest people due to hormones and they have more free time and less responsibility than older people…

If you go to college you’ll see there’s actually way more women who stay in the library on weekends and study than guys who do the same thing

[–]iamatwork24 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Im a guy, I’ve gone through multiple hoe phases when I’ve been single. Have a very high count. Enjoying being single by having lots of casual sex, whether male or female, doesn’t change my opinion on someone. It’s fun to sleep around as a guy and I imagine the same is true for a girl. Not all men or women go through a hoe phase. It appeals to some and not to others and that a-ok.

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