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Women do not have an inherently deep or complex sexuality

February 16, 2023
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When people discuss 'innate' differences between male and female sexuality, no matter what the specifics, the broad view always seems to be that women have a deeper and more complex way of perceiving sexual attraction. The evidence put forth ranges from the seemingly simple and obvious (women are more selective therefore their sexual impulses must require a more complicated set of triggers) to the somewhat esoteric (women are more likely read erotic fiction than watch porn). Basically, the dominant cultural narrative is that because women emphasize so heavily on non-physical traits when talking about men they're attracted to, we can jump to the conclusion that they're inherently less shallow than men.

IMHO this is a faulty line of reasoning since it completely ignores general human(not just female) tendencies regarding sensory stimulation, pleasure-seeking behavior, etc. and assumes that the female sexual impulse is something unique. What is far more plausible is simply that abundance leads to desensitization which leads to novelty-seeking and since the number of men that look 'good' and novel at the same time is quite low, women seek out that novelty from behavior/reputation. This phenomenon is essentially no different from people who have been desensitized to any other type of stimulus. For example: 

  1. Those who have eaten so much traditionally 'good-tasting' food that they seek out exotic cuisine with interesting preparatory techniques/cultural significance even if the food by itself doesn't taste that much better.
  2.  Wine connoisseurs who spend boatloads of money on well-reputed 'acquired' tastes.
  3.  Music/movie/game buffs who seek out obscure genres.

It's also interesting how the attitudes of the people towards their respective objects of interest in my examples above are strikingly similar to women's general attitudes towards men. I.e. hyperfocus on nitpicking flaws, disdain towards the average, romanticization of the exceptional, etc..

The bottom line is, women's desire for personality/game/charm is really just a desire for non-physical novelty same as how they would desire it in any other scenario where the stimulus was abundant and easily available. It's not cos of some inherent part of the female brain that makes them "less shallow".

Addendum: When it comes to women preferring erotic fiction over porn, this can easily be explained by fact that women can easily get basic sex with a guy who is their looksmatch or above. Nobody fantasizes about something easily within their reach so women require elaborate stories/scenarios to go with the sex for it to be fantasy-worthy. For a porn company, these things would be too expensive to depict and not worth it since porn for women would get fewer views even if it aligned with their tastes due to women's much lower libidos. So porn ends up catering more to male tastes, turning women off and therefore they seek out erotic fiction.

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Title Women do not have an inherently deep or complex sexuality
Author Occams_clipper
Upvotes 2
Comments 21
Date February 16, 2023 3:45 AM UTC (1 month ago)
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[–]TaxNegative161 5 points6 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I'm sure the women here were very impressed by this well researched and definitely not insane screed.

[–]Occams_clipper[S] 0 points1 point  (7 children) | Copy Link

Insanity= Anything that doesn't worship women?

[–]TaxNegative161 3 points4 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

No worshipping is unnecessary. Having the faintest idea what you're talking about is tho and it's not an unreasonable standard imo

[–]Occams_clipper[S] 2 points3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Please educate me O wise one.

[–]TaxNegative161 2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Ask a woman or a qualified sexologist (yes, that's a real profession).

[–]GetOffRedditToday -1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Why do you spend so many hours of the day arguing about this shit?

[–]TaxNegative161 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't answer to you or anyone.

[–]GetOffRedditToday 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Lmao we got a real badass here

[–]TaxNegative161 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lol at considering not engaging with rejects on reddit as some massive display of badassery

[–]zastale -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

As with most things, women only have to show up.

[–]puririnpa 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

what about a virgin who hates porn or anything erotic?

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (5 children) | Copy Link

I mean the idea that women prefer erotic fiction over porn is actually absurd.

[–]Occams_clipper[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don't know if they mean it but it's been my general observation that women at least say that they prefer erotic fiction over porn.

[–]ElectricBugs 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women you talk to is not a good measure of what we.in general society do. Also, women are made to feel shamed for expressing sexual interest. Even in this sub. I literally am being called a whore and cumslut on another sub for disclosing that I enjoy sex so have a high body count.

[–]Occams_clipper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not women I talk to. Women online. If you go to the post on PPD you'll see that none of the women (or anyone else) are disagreeing on that specific point (that women prefer erotic fiction over porn).

[–]I_Am_Health 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women lose the ability to pair bond as partner count goes up.

[–]ElectricBugs -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not true

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

You be meeting the wrong kinda women dude

[–]Occams_clipper[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

What specific point do you disagree with?

[–]RatDontPanicAverage Unfrustrated Chump 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

All of it, actually. I've met women who aren't shallow. Sadly the Tinder generation is having a really bad effect on women nowadays but the less superficial women are still out there, they're just harder to find.

You need to get to know those women and lose the low-rent trash you associate with.

[–]Occams_clipper[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This isn't about individual women or men. The point I was trying to make with the post is that society in general promotes the idea that female sexuality is less shallow than male sexuality and that is wrong. Also, I didn't use any moralistic language such as "low-rent trash" in my post cos I don't think it's evil to be shallow but I just find it kinda shitty when people pretend not to be.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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