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[–]Egalitarianwhistle[M] [score hidden] 3 years ago stickied comment (3 children) | Copy Link
This has been reported to be taken down. But I think the conversation it has engendered is good.
[–]tbl44 399 points400 points401 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
How come I know men who have been falsey accused of rape, but no woman knows other women who have made false rape accusations?
[–]Aligayah 61 points62 points63 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I also know men who have been falsely accused of rape. It ruined their lives.
[–]Jannbo4 24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yehr that shit is a witchhunt one of my former classmates tryed to do simelar to me for atation But nobady beleved her since she did similar things befor. Thatshit gor me thinking about all off this.
[–]Aligayah 19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
At my high school a girl falsely accused a male student of rape. He was put on house arrest, expelled from school, and then evicted for unrelated reasons.
[–]Jannbo4 14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Poor felor
[–]Mick_Donalds 92 points93 points94 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Boooooom. Have my upvote.
[–]Baconbac28 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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[–]zipflop 211 points212 points213 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
"Hey man."
"Hey."
"Are you a rapist?"
"Yeah."
"Okay. Well, I know you. So now, I know a rapist. Cheers."
"No problem. I don't know any other rapists myself. I might ask around."
"We would all benefit from knowing a male rapist."
"Good point. Thanks for the idea."
"No problem. Have a nice day."
[–]TIIINY_RIIICK 37 points38 points39 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"Are you a rapist ?" "Yeah" "Understandable, have a great day"
[–]toufikofcourse 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
wow
[–]ImHere2OffendYou 122 points123 points124 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is so stupid on so many different levels.
[–]punisher_devil[S] 73 points74 points75 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What can you expect from the feminists
[–]yeet_lord500 111 points112 points113 points 3 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I have an answer,: because there is a study that showed that most women falsely accuse men of rape
[–]Your_Imaginary_GF 60 points61 points62 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
another point: who the fuck would even admit to rape?! If a man (or women) were to explain it in their eyes, it would be sex but the other person was reluctant or "playing hard to get"
[–]Philletto 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The reason I’m not calling out male rapists is because it’s actually quite rare.
[–]xVanHam 9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Oh? can you find this study it would be very handy to have at hand in certain arguments
[–]DarkLordKindle 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I also, would like the source.
Cause the study i saw a few month back said aomethibg like 10% of rape accusations were lies.
[–]yeet_lord500 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Here https://www.law.northwestern.edu/legalclinic/wrongfulconvictions/exonerations/documents/ilDotsonMcDowell.pdf
[–]ImHere2OffendYou 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess I'm just dumb, but can you explain exactly how that study proves "most women falsely accuse men of rape"? I'm not trying to say you're wrong, I just want to be educated and understand the study before I start spouting it off to crazy ass feminists lol.
[–]Andrea-Vikt0ria 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is a study from 1985 based on roughly 1200 rape cases on Air Force bases in the early 80s. 546 cases remained unresolved, 460 were proven to be legitimate and 212 false.
How on earth is this relevant and even if it were, how do you arrive at the conclusion that most of rape accusations in 2020 are made up by looking at this document?
I'm genuinely curious.
[–]Pac_Mine 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can you give me the name or the link of the study, please?
[–]murderhorny 90 points91 points92 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This falls in the same category of feminists that claim that 80%+ of rape causes were not reported, How the fuck does you know the numbers of something that was not reported?!!?
[–]Kotnarok 32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I said the same thing, so someone explained it as they're not willing to go to the police, but will talk to raiin or whatever's survey. so it's people willing to baselessly or facelessly claim, kind of like asking for a source for that wage gap myth. propagated, but no way to be substantiated.
[–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These are the same people that took the “At least 2-10% of rape accusations are false” and used that as a way to justify believing EVERY accusation even though this same statistic also implies 2-10% of accusations are true.
But in feminist land, twisting facts and lying is the only way to have power
[–]MassiveMD 17 points18 points19 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Our definition of rape is different.
[–]piggiefatnose 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How come everyone knows a victim of murder but no one knows a murderer?
[–]empatheticapathetic 8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because women lie
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I’m a woman, I don’t know a lot of women who’ve been raped but I know tons people who’ve had toxic and abusive relationships with their mothers
[–]ChevronSevenDeferred 23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
But they'll gladly vote for one (Biden)?
[–]CjayOG 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The fact that you had to specify which candidate you were referring to is beyond concerning
[–]Greedyfr00b 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep, and defend him to the death
[–]gunfell -4 points-3 points-2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Do you know that trump is the only one credibly accused of rape?
[–]ChevronSevenDeferred 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
There's better support of Tara Reade's allegations, but that story got buried pretty quick
[–]gunfell -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
because her own friend earlier said tara was saying the truth came out and said it was all a lie. the friend admitted she was only saying it to support tara and because tara asked her to lie.
[–]ImHere2OffendYou 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You must have a loose definition of the word "credible" lol
[–]DonLimpio14 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Maybe because a rapist is a criminal, and criminals don't confess their crimes
[–]DonLimpio14 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
in case every man ever meet a rapist, which thing is impossible
[–]ShinMusashi44 25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
if every woman knows another woman that was raped, wouldn't that mean every woman has been raped?
[–]Zaidinator7 20 points21 points22 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
or the same woman has been raped 7.8B times
[–]INCREDIBILIS55 11 points12 points13 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or looked at depending on what your country thinks what rape means
[–]nugssssssssssssssss 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because not every man rapes dumbass, hell, it’s a select few that rape. And probably “everyone you know” is a fuckin liar or a rapist themselves
[–]fen90der 5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot more percieved rapes than actual rapists thats why. Not every rape reported is a rape - some are lies and consensual sex which is regretted
What’s interesting is that women all know someone who’s been “raped” but men only know other men who have been accused of rape.
[–]Estenar 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is this like an American thing? I never in my life met some girl that was raped and yeah, I met a lot of them. Btw, from my understanding, "rape" is for a lot of girl even touch, which is wrong.
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1 man can rape many women????
[–]boundarychimps 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There is some small fraction of people who are perfectly happy to do bad things (assault, robbery, false accusations, rape, murder, whatever). And they victimize a somewhat larger fraction of the population.
As long as your average bad person victimizes more than one sane person, everyone is more likely to know a victim than they are to know a perpetrator.
[–]Azuzu88 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I mean, if the statistics are true then its hardly surprising. Apparently around 20% of women have been sexually assaulted at some point, which means that for every 5 women you know, one has been assaulted, thats not a hard number to reach. They also report that something like 90% of sexual assaults go unreported.
If both of these figures are true that means a large number of women are assaulted but only a tiny portion ever report it, so of course its rare for a rapist to be outed. Do these people ever think critically about they shit they spout?
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[–]Azuzu88 3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I certainly agree but my point was that even if all of the statistics they spout are 100% true then that question on the sign is still fucking stupid as the answer is obvious.
[–]Craiglbl 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because only rapists would befriend rapists and normal people would stay away from criminals..?
[–]road_laya 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because women have lots of friends, and doesn't get berated for hours for spending some time with them?
[–]martellthacool 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They have audacity to claim why men don't respect or protect women anymore. Falsely accused men as sickos.
[–]thegraveyardcat 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think I can answer this, me and my friends talked about this before; very few people sexually harass women/men/kids. The ones that do, will do it to multiple people, especially when they’re in a relationship or know them, because victims don’t speak out straight away, or they know the person and they’re confused about what happened, or scared and it’s also a difficult crime to prove. So there’s more victims then there are rapists, because they get away with it for longer.
Also, no one advertises that their a rapist or predator to their friends, so if you were friends/aquatinted with one, you wouldn’t know most likely.
[–]FactsAngerLiars 1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Answer to Her Question: Because women lie about rape.
[–]Bunny613 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The simple answer is why would you tell your friends you’re a rapist? It’s not illegal to be raped, and it’s a traumatic experience that can be helpful to talk about to someone. If you tell everyone you raped someone you’re probably going to jail.
[–]HUZNAIN 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What protest is that?
[–]not_of_this_world1 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because you can’t assume they’re telling the truth if it isn’t proved and most rapists don’t go around telling people that they raped someone.
[–]crazycrayfish64 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Typically people dont admit to crimes that would get the ostracized socially by every man and send them to jail and probably killed
[–]beniesixx98 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I get the sign ....but they aren't talking about the women who rape. Or how most the time youre rapist is someone you actually know. Ive been raped three different times in my life 2 men and a woman . The reason why not "every man" knows a rapist is because rapist don't talk about what they did to a victim , unless they get off on it , but still its a stupid sign because you aren't acknowledging male victims or trans victims . Yall are only focused on women victims but wont registered the other victims. Like my fiance has been falsely accused of sexual harassment and rape . But he has been raped and i help him through it .
[–]daw25252525 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isnt this what we call a strawman?
[–]benjacobson2020 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most people don't hangout with rapists?
[–]tonydapussmaster 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just going along with their own statement that “every woman knows another woman that’s been raped”, it still doesn’t necessarily suggest that there are an equal amount of male rapists as there are people “that have been raped” because of potential serial-rapists.
You can really begin to unravel the stupidity of her comment when you remove that initial assumption, which is allowed since there are a lot of false allegations/accusations and that statistically women aren’t raped at that high of a rate.
[–]Mewster1818 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Statistically something like 90% of rapes are committed by the same 2% of rapists. Known and proven rapists are almost always serial offenders, it's not a crime that the average criminal engages in. Likewise, most serial criminals know better than to flaunt their criminal behaviors around other people.
The other 98% of rapists were either domestic abusers or what are often referred to as "crimes of passion". There's little evidence that these rapists actually thought of what they were doing as rape at the time. There's a lack of premeditated behavior.
By this example, we can also pretty safely assume all the female teachers caught raping students fall into the premeditated, would-be/will-be serial rapist category.
[–]Melodic_Pie412 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Maybe because women think that if someone has sex with them while they are drunk, it is a rape, even through they gave consent. Delusional.
[–]skgody 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know a few rapists but I know more people who have been falsely accused of rape. The real question is why doesn’t anyone know of female rapists even thought the internationally recognized Dunedin study suggests women are more likely than men to sexually assault some one.
[–]ZCommander9088 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Possible reasons:
1) rapists are criminals and thus almost always liars.
2) women talk about negative experiences more then men do (this is to explain why not everyone knows male victims, variety or reason)
3) false accusations exist and are more common than 2%. I would say around 10-25% of accusations are false. Many more may have ‘half-truths’ (ie someone conflating sexual harassment/assault that did happen with a more serious charge such as rape).
4) there aren’t many sex offenders they just reoffend.
5) lack of reporting (while this can’t be confirmed the government (USA I assume your country wherever anyone lives has a similar statement), not feminists, so there is likely some truth to it. It’s not 90%. It’s not 80%, I’d say it’s likely 60% for assaults committed by a stranger and 55% of assaults by people they know are not reported.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Grade for logic, F.
[–]VeteranOfDepression -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
why have i been raped but haven't blamed all men for it and partially taking responsibility
[–]mayrunal -1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
i don’t know a woman that has been raped. what
[+]MajorChoas -7 points-6 points-5 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cause its a male white supremacist conspiracy
[–]Egalitarianwhistle 2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You dropped this:
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