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[–]Didujustsaythatsmh9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Now hold the f up my guy, there was a video with a black guy disempowered, and a white guy empowered, to me, that's not evidence of racism, that's evidence of shitty cops. In America at least 500,000 white males have been killed by black cops, why arent we calling racism then?
[–]ashlesha_991 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Can you shed more light on this subject? Like some of the past events etc?
[–]Didujustsaythatsmh5 points6 points7 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Sure thing, basically before all the protest a black man named George Floyd was suspected to be doing forgery, so the cops came over, put him in handcuffs, and walked him around and he accidentally fell, then the guy everyone is pissed at (Derek M Chauvin the cop) puts his knee on the guy's neck, not dept training, just straight up chokes him for 8 minutes and later he dies in care.
So at the beginning its all good
Video went viral, sparked outrage everywhere, all the media was talking about it, celebs you name it everyone was mourning for the guy and demanding police have accountability for their actions in a peaceful manner.
Then ANTIFA shows up.
And oh boy do they show up.
Low-income homes burned to the ground, Black store owners looted and robbed, MAGA hats assaulted, FED EX driver killed. They claim to be fighting for blacks but last I checked looting a TV from target isn't turning anyone against racism, if not it's turning people towards it because they might notice "look at all these black guys robbing target".
Then the shitshow mainstream media comes in.
Now its fully blown anarchy, the city is being burned to the ground, Trump swears national guard will come in to help. And we see celebs and mainstream media egging the violence, encouraging it, saying it's justified. So here is a huge flaw with the violent protest, the fact of the matter is looting and arson has nothing to do with police brutality. Not one thing it has connecting the 2 ideas. Yet the media wants you to believe it does, they refuse to mention true numbers like astronomically more whites are killed than black ones in police brutality cases. Ex: Kelly Thomas, recently beat to death by a Somalian police officer and his buddies, but the media won't shed light on it, because it goes against their narrative.
Based on the facts the violence is counterproductive, unnecessary the citizens of the city beg protestors to stop, but they don't listen, instead of putting the burden on the locals, all from the spark of "racism" when the video has no evidence of racism.
Hope that helps, it is a bit biased but as is everything on the internet!
[–]ashlesha_991 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
But is a cop allowed to pin down a citizen? And just for producing a counterfeit bill, being pin down so harsh?
Also isn't it partially true that White's in order to support blacks is creating more havoc? I am not from that country so I have no idea how the law works but in videos presented, in some cases it shows George floyd showing resistance and in some he is obeying what was asked. You also said that White's have also been targetted heavily in past, so I wanted to know are there any specific protests other than this in which whites were unjustly blamed or something? Except ANTIFA. A
Also a lot celebrities, an activist from black lives matter, MGK and many other celebrities have come on the streets to support are doing their protests with peace, why are they still shooting pellets? Even a news reporters had pellet marks on his throat! If a democratic government gives their citizens right to speak and hold wrong doings accountable then why is it taking away these rights from people who are doing protests peacefully?
[–]Didujustsaythatsmh4 points5 points6 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely not. A cop should never pin down anyone unarmed in handcuffs who poses no threat to their surroundings. What he did was despicable, and should be in jail to the fullest extent of the law.
It is EXTREMELY true that white liberals are damaging more than fixing, look at the people looting target, most are white, look at the footage of buildings being burned down, most of these people are white. Look at the footage of even non-violence, where citizens were waiting for the mayor to speak on the issue, 90% of them are white.
Here is a link to a video by NBC detailing everything, you can base your opinion on that.
so I wanted to know are there any specific protests other than this in which whites were unjustly blamed or something? Except ANTIFA. A
Take one look at the anti-lockdown protests, CNN and other mainstream media sources claimed that they would spread the virus, that you would literally die if you took a step out of your house, that they harassed officers and governors. When they failed to mention why they protesting, their reasons and justifications, the fact that no actual violence was committed, the fact that a minority of protestors were armed and they were armed because police officers don't mess with armed civilians. And most were unarmed and peacefully protesting, while the media portrayed them as insatiate killers. Most of the protestors were white so the media spun that they were Trump supporters, racists, white supremacists, KKK, you name it when all they wanted was to be able to feed their families.
Also a lot celebrities, an activist from black lives matter, MGK and many other celebrities have come on the streets to support are doing their protests with peace, why are they still shooting pellets?
Celebrities are stupid. They never see politics only whatever grows their fanbase, literally, Floyd's own family and girlfriend are begging everyone to stop the violence, and they aren't listening because then they won't be able to loot and plunder. And the fact is, most protests are not peaceful, pretty much all of them are brutal and oppressive, which is something the media won't cover, you notice how the media was saying anti-lockdown protests would spread the virus? Love how they won't mention the virus now.
[–]ashlesha_992 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yes exactly, I am not able to understand that, the number of COVID cases are increasing day by day, how are they not fearing the virus at all?
I mean if you come out on the streets to protest against the lockdown and black lives matter, the virus is still going to be there. Social distancing is like already forgotten by people of Minnesota opposing all of this. So if people don't stay away from the virus now what is the possibility that people would stay healthy to feed their families in the future? I can't really understand how one could fight a cause by putting himself at a greater risk and possibility of contaminating his near loved one's?
[–]Didujustsaythatsmh2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The media won't tell the truth that these are riots, ex: NBC specifically told its reporters not to mention the word riot, CNN refused to talk about their wrongdoing until their center in Atlanta was demolished(Karma).
During the OG protests which were peaceful, they had social distancing, but with so many people showing up out of state, its hard to maintain that 6 feet in tight spaces. Its also a huge problem that these guys are destroying businesses, businesses that could be hiring and helping reduce the economic strain that the US is in right now.
[–]Covered-in-Thorns1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit, I looked up the statistics, blacks make up 14% of the population and 14% of fatal police shootings. That being said, I also found statistics saying blacks make up about 50% of shootings, and they’re 2.5x more likely to get shot by the police than whites. Idk what to think about it but I think spinning this into an only black problem is naive, this is a problem all of us face.
[–]Advanced_Male0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Because the problem isn’t that black men are being killed by cops, it’s that they’re being killed in higher amounts for less severe reasons
[–]Didujustsaythatsmh0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Now If that was the case, I'd be protesting too! I looked at some data though and it says otherwise.
This paper was done by a black Harvard professor (scroll to the bottom)
This YT video by John Doyle also does a really good job
This statistic graph
[–]Advanced_Male1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
here’s the one thing wrong with that graph in particular. It counted the total amount of killings. As you should know, the white population in America is much higher than the black population. Of course the statistic for whites would be higher, there’s more whites, therefore more opportunities for it to happen. It should be measured with a disparity ratio, which measures the amount to both populations. Police brutality towards black people is a problem because it happens not only to a larger percent of the black population than the white population, but also because many black deaths from police officers are caused by offenses in which a white person would not be killed. “All lives matter” is fine on the surface, but it’s implications are ones of white supremacy. I don’t think you are a white supremacist, I’m not calling you one. But it would be nice if you could acknowledge when a minority group is being oppressed and at least stand with them. You come off as racist otherwise.
[–]Didujustsaythatsmh0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm not even white lol.
Yea I acknowledge that fact BUT
Cops have 375 million interactions with the public every year, if we look at the graph for 2019 it's 235, to me this does not look like an epidemic of black people being hunted in the streets, and the graph does not even consider if individuals were armed/dangerous. And if you read the paper I cited above it did state blacks are 24.7% less likely to be shot than whites and it had over 300 variables to it. I just don't think black people are pressed in America if they were hell yea I'd stand with them, but looking at these stats I don't think that's the case. I just have a problem with all this looting arson and etc for a problem that IMO does not exist.
[–]the-mega-sad6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Imagine thinking a certain group of people matter more than others.
[–]YeetMeatToFeet-2 points-1 points0 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Good thing that's not even slightly what's being implied
[–]Advanced_Male-1 points0 points1 point 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can you read? It literally says they know ALL LIVES MATTER
[–]PaladinGamer5632 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah, when my feminist sister started chanting about how this george floyd incident was racist, I was about to add, and it was also a sexist issue, but I manage to restrain myself.
[–]BrolyParagus0 points1 point2 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah man I will stand my ground. If I manage to find a feminist in front of me willing to have a debate, I’ll be ready to crush her.
[–]nugssssssssssssssss-3 points-2 points-1 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This isn’t antifeminist or accurate... wtf
[–]Advanced_Male1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree. You’re in the wrong place to have a civil debate tho
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