The core of the problem.

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Why traditional gender roles exist(ed) ? there is a lot of factors i will give few of them, the first is life expectancy.

Globally the life expectancy increased from less than 30 years to over 72 years; after two centuries of progress we can expect to live much more than twice as long as our ancestors. And this progress was not achieved in a few places. In every world region people today can expect to live more than twice as long.

The second is child mortality.

Many researchers have independently studied mortality rates for children in the past: in different societies, locations, and historical periods. The average across a large number of historical studies suggests that in the past around one-quarter of infants died in their first year of life and around half of all children died before they reached the end of puberty.

Since then the risk of death for children has fallen around the world. The global average today is 10 times lower than the average of the past. In countries with the best child health today an infant is 170 times more likely to survive.

The type of work (need for physical strength).

As countries develop, the share of the population working in agriculture is declining. While more than two-thirds of the population in poor countries work in agriculture, less than 5% of the population does in rich countries. It is predominantly the huge productivity increase that makes this reduction in labor possible.

In year 1400 the majority of people worked in farming and other jobs that demand high physical strength that women on average can't do. 71% in France, 60% in Italy, 57% in England worked in farming. (even today farming still male dominated industry, despite the fact it is easier with the use of technology that didn't exist in the past)

Because of all that and other natural factors gender roles were created by humans to ensure the continuation of the specie. that's why only women and girls had to be reduced to "babies machines" like some feminists say because you live less than 30 year and infant mortality was very high. men and boys were redused to machines too but in different ways. they has to do all the hard and dengerous jobs to provide for the family that's why men showing vulnerability is stigmatized. men were (and still) expected to face danger without fear and sacrifice themselves.

So one of my core themes in The Myth of Male Power—that history’s controlling force was not patriarchy, but survival—is still ignored. Instead, the leading universities’ women’s studies and “gender studies” courses still emanate from the Marxist and Civil Rights model of oppressor vs. oppressed. We’ll see in this book exactly why the dichotomy of oppressor/oppressed is both inaccurate and, more important, undermines love and women’s empowerment. In virtually every leading university this leads to a demonizing of men and masculinity that distorts the very essence of traditional masculinity—being socialized to be a hero by being willing to sacrifice oneself in war or in work. The possibility that being socialized to be disposable is not genuine power is, to this day, either considered radical, heretical, or, most frequently, not considered.”

― Warren Farrell, The Myth of Male Power

And he add:

We have lived in a world that has been in various ways both male dominated and female dominated, both patriarchal and matriarchal, and more bi-sexist than sexist. .. and when survival-needs dominate, neither sex has power, but roles ..

This is true, even in Saudi Arabia sexism against men (misandry) is rampant ! every time a man is killed by his wife you read all the comments (in Saoudi websites) saying "he must did something" "maybe he abused her first" "is she killed him he must made her suffer a lot" ... they can't undrestand that women commit domestic violence too.

When Amber heard said she was abused by Johnny Depp everyone believed her (because she is woman) with no evidence. she even won awards for it ! then later audios proved she was the abuser.

That's why the gender conversation should focus on both men's rights (areas of male disadvantage) and women's rights (areas of female disadvantage). both misogyny (anti female sexism) and misandry (anti male sexism)

The patriarchy theory (and feminism) is false and bigoted:

But feminism only recognize half of the picture, from the first wave feminism only raise awareness on women's rights, while ignoring and silencing anyone who talk about men's rights.

When the department of Bas-Rhin in France recognized the International Men's Day in 2019 they received a backlash from feminists org like Osez le féminisme (dare feminism) saying it is:

validation by the public authorities of backward masculinist theories, obstacles to equality between women and men

The event was cancelled and feminists declared victory, i thought feminism will make it easier for men to talk about their problems and feelings !

Mainstream feminist activists like Anita Aarkeesian said sexism against men (misandry) don't exist ! this is not fringe opinion. most feminists don't recognize misandry. men get 63% more prison time, government funded domestic violence services only for female victims, men only forced to sign the draft is not sexism ? clearly sexism against men exist in the west and east, today and in the past. that's why the ptriarchy theory is false. and also bigoted because it erase the suffering and issues of half of the population: men and boys.