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[–]Jakeybaby125[M] [score hidden] 1 year ago stickied comment (9 children) | Copy Link
3 reports on this. I don't give a fuck. Feminism is hate
[–]comblocpeasant 175 points176 points177 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The difference between feminine and feminist summed up in one post.
[–]I_am_Godfather1 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What is masculine according to you?
[–]comblocpeasant 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Your question is not relevant to the post.
[–]bb-03 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
being an onlyfans model. according to these folks ofc
[+]sas0002 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You can be both.
[–]comblocpeasant 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would expect a feminist to say that.
[+]sas0002 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless you have kids I see no problem.
[–]I_am_Godfather1 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but you're on a sub that kind of justifies misogyny so........
[–][deleted] 158 points159 points160 points 1 year ago (93 children) | Copy Link
Feminists hate feminine women
[–]DaddySmallJohn 87 points88 points89 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Feminists: Let me destroy everything that has ever made me a woman to behave like an entitled man child until it gets too hard and then I'm a little girl. I can't stand love, find men repulsive, yet don't want to be alone but have nothing to contribute to anyone
Feminine: I am a girl, I like being a girl, I like that other people like me being a girl, I want a husband, I am happy as a couple. I want to support my man!
[–]BesselVanDerKolk 5 points6 points7 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this really is the whole thing in a nutshell
[+]sas0002 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Feminist: I want equality and to be able to do whatever I want. Whether that’s being a pornstar, worker or a housewife.
Feminine women: me too.
You can be feminine and feminist at the same time.
[–]Emperor_Quintana 24 points25 points26 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And they even hastily conflate purity with misogyny?
My, how these self-proclaimed “paragons of women empowerment” only empower those who are more than willing to deprive themselves of any self-respect for a bit of extra cash to go with that unbridled hedonism…
[–]EnragedPickle 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It really is bulldyke supremacy
[–]EditorPositive 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (76 children) | Copy Link
No, we hate women that shame other women for no reason. Not having sex a lot isn’t feminine, masculine, or anything in between. It’s just a lifestyle choice
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (26 children) | Copy Link
Just like Mara shamed Isabella for having a different view than her?
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (25 children) | Copy Link
No, Mara shamed Isabella for insulting Mara. Don’t like getting scratched, don’t start a cat fight🤷🏾♀️
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (24 children) | Copy Link
Fair, but we dont know the wider context or what Isabella is responding to. For what we know it could be someone insulting women without OF.
However my point stands that calling someone else "misogynistic" for having a view you don't agree with is a bit silly.
[–]Fun_Push7168 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I checked, there is no other context.
The anti OF statement at the top was just a general post on her IG.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
hey dude im just going to give you advice to stop arguing with people who come into spaces to specifically argue, they will only ruin your day like theirs.
[–]Fun_Push7168 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's comical though, makes my day when they can't stop contradicting themselves.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (20 children) | Copy Link
That’s not why she called Isabella misogynistic, she called her misogynistic because she thinks that women being openly sexually expressive and profiting off of it is wrong
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No Isabella stated that having an OF is unattractive to most men which is completely true. Stating a fact is not misogynistic. Isabella shouldn't have shown off her purity and shamed women who do OF but my point stands. Isabella is not misogynistic.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Given how she responded to Mara, there’s no way she wasn’t implying that women having us only fans is wrong. If she’s slut shaming women, then she’s misogynistic
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isabella has a point. OF isn't going to make the majority of men attracted to you leading to no husband. She is simply stating a truth.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Nobody does only fans as a means to attract a husband, so why that’s brought into it is beyond me.
[–]Fun_Push7168 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Where did you get that from?
She said she's someone's future wife. So maybe she doesn't want a bunch of nudes floating around out there in wierd dudes hard drives for eternity.
She could have also said I'm someone's future Mom for a similar reason.
Mara was looking for a reason to be offended and read into it the meaning you just read into it.
[+]EditorPositive -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Isabella’s twitter account, that’s where. Take one look at it and tell me she doesn’t think that women who do only fans and sexually express themselves publicly are wrong
[–]Fun_Push7168 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
Which is totally fine and within her rights to have as a moral.
You could publicly disavow fuckboys.... isn't misandry, just your morals or opinion.
This does not qualify as misogyny (hatred of women) It qualifies as disliking something only a handful of women do.
It doesn't even qualify as sexist-(characterized by or showing prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination, typically against women, on the basis of sex.) Since this is on the basis of a behavior and one that isn't even done by a majority of women.
In fact nowhere does she allude to holding a different standard for men and so it couldn't even be tangentially qualified as either of those.
For example if you posted " no, I'm not a mechanic. I'm going to be a husband someday" or " because I'm not a crook"
I might take a personal offense to it, but did you just insult me based on me being male? Nope.
It qualifies as a moral you disagree with, and then a reactive insult that you don't like.
If people keep describing everything they don't like as misogyny it will continue to lose its power and definition as a word.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (10 children) | Copy Link
It would be fine if her opinions didn’t perpetuate a harmful mind frame. It does qualify as misogyny. The majority of women don’t have to do something in order to experience misogyny. The entire background of Isabella’s mind frame is misogynistic. The concept of demonizing sex work and sexual expression stems from misogyny. A term that’s used to demonize those jobs or you as a man for doing them wasn’t used against you, that was the case when Isabella decided to call Mara a slut.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (48 children) | Copy Link
The first woman posted nothing about the number of men that other women had slept with, just that men don’t prefer women who display their naked bodies to the world to be their wives. It can happen, but you sacrifice qualities in a man such as how much he cares about how the world views him. And I mean, if that’s your situation that you are a heterosexual woman who does OF and not finding a husband would be a negative thing, I certainly don’t judge you. I just personally wouldn’t choose you dedicate the rest of my life to that person. That’s a pretty common opinion in men. It’s like when women have preferences for men who work hard, men know that if they adhere to those preferences, they increase their appeal to women. By not having OF, she’s showing she knows what men appreciate. She’s not really shaming anyone, until that other lady called her a misogynist. If you are a man that prefers women who don’t do OF, you hate women. Got it. If you are a woman who acknowledges the valid preferences of men to not want to marry someone who does OF, you also are misogynistic. Got it. If you call a woman who considers purity a bad thing a hoe, you are especially misogynist. Like what else could be considered a hoe besides objectively disapproving of sexual modesty.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (40 children) | Copy Link
It’s not the fact that women are called hoes, it’s the fact that it’s done as a means to make it out like having a lot of sex or profiting off of sexual expression is a bad thing.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (39 children) | Copy Link
It’s not that it’s a bad thing, it’s that men’s preferences for wives are valid. I’m not making a moral judgement against pornstars, I’m just stating that most men do not choose their one and only wife to be someone who’s career is getting sexual attention from other men.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (36 children) | Copy Link
That would be fine if the logic behind it wasn’t ‘pornstar/woman who has a lot of sex = not worth it/cum dumpster
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (35 children) | Copy Link
I literally didn’t say that. You are projecting some sort of insecurity or trauma onto me over nothing. Let me restate so you can’t possibly misunderstand.
When a man takes a woman to be his wife, it is the utmost honor he has to give any woman. It’s your best friend, soul mate, love of your life, mother of your children. I cannot overstate how significant this person is to a man. Of all relationships in life, he will be the most picky over this person. There must be a fundamental alignment of values. My personal opinion as a man, is that this person will not make a career out of sexual attention from other men, because I value a monogamous relationship where there is not sexual temptation from others. That explains the pornstar part. The high body count is similar. If a woman has had sex with a lot of men, say 30, I don’t want to be number 31, because I’m most likely just a notch before her 32nd. Men who are looking for wives are looking for a lifetime of monogamy, not to just be left for the next sexual partner. Im not insulting anyone who does porn or sleeps with lots of men, im just informing you that I won’t choose them to bond with for life. We don’t have much in common. My wife would personally not like me putting my Dick on the internet for everyone to see, and I wouldn’t have expected her to marry me if I did. It’s just a mutual respect we have for each other to not do things like that. This is an extremely common view from men and women, and does not equate to misogyny. It’s not a hatred of women, and not even a hatred of sex work or promiscuity. It’s just a preference for the opposite. It’s like if I said I like chocolate cake, I don’t have a hatred for vanilla, I just don’t choose it.
You literally had to put the most vulgar possible words in my mouth and twist it to be something hateful. Why do you do this?
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (34 children) | Copy Link
Did I say you said that? No. I don’t have any insecurity or trauma to project, so 💀 Why is that the upmost honor? A woman can be those things with or without a wedding ring. There isn’t anything special about a wedding ring that drastically changes anything about how those things. How does you being the 31st person she has sex with make you just some guy she slept with? You can be left for the next sexual partner by someone who has only had sex once prior to having sex with you. The amount of people someone has sex with doesn’t determine how likely they are to jump to the next, the intentions they have and their overall view of relationships does. To a certain degree, it does. You say you’re not saying what you’re saying as a means to insult anyone but then proceed to make the assumption that someone who has a lot of sex is likely to cheat, which makes zero sense. I don’t do it and I didn’t do it.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (23 children) | Copy Link
This post is about women who want to be married to men. Why would they be offended if they don’t want the ring. The number of sexual partners a person has had is directly related to their likelihood to have another partner. I didn’t say definitively that they would cheat, just that it’s reasonable for the average man to view it that way. If you don’t want a husband, you shouldn’t be offended, if you have a husband, you shouldn’t be offended. If you don’t want a husband, don’t already have a husband, and are willing to narrow down your options to only the ones who will accept a wife who does OF, you are can accept the fewer options without being offended. You should only be offended if you want a husband, can’t find one easily, and are unwilling to accept that mens preferences are valid. Insisting on focusing on the perceived attack on your own feelings is selfish, as no one is insulting you. It’s just an acknowledgment of what men look for in wives. If you are saying that being proposed to isn’t an honor, then you don’t have the value that husbands and wives share. Marriage should be central to your life if that’s what you want from it, not just an option that you might exercise should a guy be lucky enough for you to accept him.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (22 children) | Copy Link
Who said anything about women being offended by that? No it isn’t, their view on the relationship is. Someone can be a virgin and still view you as some guy to sleep with or try out. It’s not reasonable at all, it’s ridiculous. Explain to me how viewing someone who has had a lot of sex as similar to a broken down car and thinking that because of the simple fact that they had a lot of sex, they’ll just jump to the next person isn’t insulting? That’s basically assuming that they’re intentions are just to use you. Aside from finances, marriage doesn’t do anything special for a relationship. That’s why I don’t view it as special, there’s nothing special about it.
[–]Fun_Push7168 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
proceed to make the assumption that someone who has a lot of sex is likely to cheat
Factually true. Promiscuity correlates well with infidelity.
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
No it isn’t factually true. You can be a virgin and a cheater. You can be celibate and a cheater. You don’t have to have a lot of sex in order to be a cheater.
[+]monettegia 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
One and only wife? Where are you from?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In the US. You? I’ve never met anyone with two wives. Most men don’t want to get married due to the liabilities, but the men that do are highly selective. She must ultimately have family values or else why start a family with her over someone who does?
[+]monettegia 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Wow, I would consider a man who greatly “cares about how the world views him” to be quite undesirable. I like spines.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Caring about your reputation is good for building a career as a man. Having a husband who doesn’t mind having a pornstar wife only benefits the pornstar.
[+]monettegia 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
How so? Why couldn’t it benefit him?
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Typically, professional establishments will frown on those types of associations. For example, any local business from pretty much any industry could do local fundraisers with churches or schools. It could take away those chances if those organizations found out the wife does porn. Husbands like to be able to go places with their wives, and be 100% certain the men or boys in the room have not masturbated to publicly available pictures of their wives. I’m not going to argue your side for you though. I literally don’t know any ways it would benefit me to be married to a pornstar. Can you think of any? What could a pornstar do for me better than my wife?
[+]monettegia 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
There are countless businesses in which the connections and experiences the spouse might have through porn would be extremely helpful. Obviously a lot in the entertainment field, but also most sales jobs, real estate, insurance, healthcare, advertising.
ETA: I think I didn’t factor in that it’s apparently a small town where everyone knows each other’s business you’re talking about. I do see that would present more complications than like the situation of other people just moving around and being themselves.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agree to disagree. I have personal experience in most of those fields, and don’t see how a pornstar would help me in lead generation, contract negotiation, relationship building, etc… I think you are viewing it from a very optimistic lens of how someone with lots of followers might lend a hand, but from a business management perspective, the likelihood that affiliation with a pornstar tarnishes a connection is much more of a detriment than any gains. The in marketing for a healthcare company for example, I could use advertising companies instead of asking my pornstar wife to message her followers. If her followers tuned in and she was talking about insurance, they would change to a different channel so they could masturbate. If I used an advertising company, they would get the message in front of nursing homes or heads of household. Mind you, I just catered that example to a combination of industries you named, but that’s a small segment of the economy. Most men work trade jobs or have otherwise become self sufficient. They most likely do no NEED to broadcast to the world that their wife is a pornstar to maybe get some more business. The idea that a man NEEDS that, is disrespectful to the living he has earned without that “help” and also a very grandiose perception of how helpful you would be in any industry in which you have no experience other than what is transferable from your time doing sex work.
[–]Fun_Push7168 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
https://www.google.com/amp/s/torontosun.com/news/world/teachers-fired-after-students-discover-their-onlyfans-page/wcm/4e54274b-c00a-41c9-89b2-88dd857678ee/amp/
Loooots of this going on. Nurses ,teachers,cops,financial advisors, mechanics....just tons.
[+][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
No? Feminists just advocate for the right to choose rather than the right to go on twitter and shame other women by considering yourself better wife material because you don’t sell sex content
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
It’s a viewpoint that values what men value. By your logic, why would a feminist be hurt by the idea of not being considered a better wife. It speaks to wanting something from a man, but considering it degrading to be a version of yourself that men value. For example, I really like playing video games all day. I don’t do it because my wife wouldn’t like that. It would be disrespectful to her and myself by wasting my full potential. As a man, I wouldn’t like it if naked images of my wife were on the internet. She was able to correctly predict that, and didn’t post them. This shows respect to both of us, by letting the source of her income and reputation be her knowledge and work ethic, instead of a sexual object for an unknown number of horny men on the internet. She didn’t say she hated hoes, just that all women can’t be hoes. To each their own. If the OnlyFans girls don’t want husbands or are fine with settling for men without better options, no one is stopping then or shaming them. It was the second girl who tried to shame the first one for her values, not the other way around.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Where does my logic say a feminist wouldn’t want men or marriage? They can be themselves and be valued by men it’s not unheard of considering it’s the majority of their business. Sex workers can marry men who don’t stigmatise them for sex work. If you and your wife choose to have those boundaries and find that works that is okay and feminists really don’t care about what you do. To do sex work you do need a level of knowledge and work ethic, your wife isn’t any better than sex workers because of that. + Sex workers aren’t objects, they own their sexuality and can give it and restrict it however they please, they are not abused in any form unless a higher power is controlling their work (very common because women are oppressed). And to tell someone they can’t do something has to stem from a bias against them/what they do. Onlyfans workers shouldn’t try to make you do sex work simply because they do, you shouldn’t try to make onlyfans workers seek your lifestyle simply because you do. Many misogynists fail to realise sex work succeeds because of patriarchy, you know why men are less popular in sex work? Because women are more heavily sexualised due to patriarchy. The only difference between this and negative forms of sexualisation is that the seller owns their content and profits from it, to take back your oppression and earn a living from it is intelligent and shows a great work ethic. These women can go on to have great husbands without “settling for men without better options”. Yes people do shame them, the word ‘hoe’ that you so comfortably use is meant to shame them and the first post was meant to shame them by suggesting she’s trying harder to be a wife and will be a better one because she doesn’t use onlyfans.
I see, you are talking about possibilities. It is certainly possible for women to get married to men. It happens all the time. My statement was about probabilities. If a woman wants to set herself apart from other women to find the best man, she would try to empathize with a male value system. Just like I do things that my wife values like I explained. Men value purity, as the original antagonizer tried to demonize. If you have had sex with 50 men, I wouldn’t be excited to be your 51st because most likely there would be a 52nd after me. Knowing that makes me unlikely to want pair with you for life, because I’m looking for monogamy. Also, if I share my name and image with you, I don’t want to go out and public to be recognized as the husband of Mia Khalifa for example, who highly regrets doing porn for only 3 months. I don’t have any judgement for women who choose to do onlyfans, I’m just informing you that a majority of men share that opinion with me. If you are expressing that that view does not align with feminism, I disagree but that’s your opinion. I think it’s highly feminine to value modesty. The point is that I agree that only fans works have access to a small percentage of men who are willing to settle down for life with someone who was a sex worker, but it also shows that being a wife and starting a family wasn’t a main part of what you want from life. To me it shows that you value independence, sexual liberation, etc.. and if there happens to be a man out there for me good, but I’m fine without it. It shows that “if a man cares about my sexual history, he’s nothing to me anyway” which is demonizing a man’s values. A 30 year old man who makes 6 figures can get a reasonable amount of options, and he would most likely pick one that shares his values or at least won’t publicly disrespect or demonize his values.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think you entirely missed every one of my points considering many things you referenced had little to no correlation with what I said. How exactly do you calculate the stats of the probabilities you speak of? And do you want to know why the concept of purity is so important to men? Once again, the patriarchy. Just because many people value something doesn’t mean it’s moral, correct or justifiable. You call that woman an antagoniser who tried to demonise yet she hasn’t said anything more patronising than anyone else involved. In a relationship it makes complete sense for all parties to state their intentions, if you are both looking for long term monogamy, what makes it more likely a woman with a high body count will move on compared to a virgin? Also Mia Khalifa is a very odd example considering she admits she was naive, insecure and easily manipulated by men at the time, very strange to compare her experience to a entirely free sex worker, or as you would say “a hoe”. Not to mention the values you’re talking about don’t align with your actions. Men who simply have a different taste in women don’t go on anti feminist subreddits and call women hoes. And your view on modesty and feminism makes no sense. Feminism and femininity aren’t synonyms. Feminism can be masculine, provocative, modest, literally anything. And the belief that modesty is a feminine trait? Also stems from patriarchy. Keeping women modest is used as a tool to “keep them in line” with misogynistic ideologies. Of course women can reclaim that modesty and make it their own and be modest women whilst upholding feminist values, but they can also choose to reject that if they please. Because that’s the point of feminism, everyone is viewed as equals with equal opportunity with equal respect for their choices. And once again, who are the “majority of men” that share your opinion? Who are the “small percentage of men” who will date sex workers? And sex work shows nothing about a person’s relationship interest because it is work, not love. You wouldn’t say a person in any other field has no interest in love simply because their job doesn’t reflect that. So why do you immediately assume sex workers aren’t interested? And women who are married may well value independence and sexual liberation, they aren’t instantly tied to their partners and lose those things. You want me to believe this is just what you value but seem to think people won’t value marriage are independence at the same time? Also you have so far made claims and generalisations about women you clearly don’t interact with and called them hoes, said you have no interest in them and claimed they would have to settle for or be settled for as though they or their lovers are lower than you and people with your beliefs and yet you want to tell me a woman saying she doesn’t want her sexual history to matter to men and won’t pursue those men is demonising them? Hypocritical to say the least. And then you start speaking about a random 30 yr old making six figures? I don’t see the relevancy of that considering there are 30 year old sex workers making that money, making whatever worth that held pointless. And I’ve never said anyone has to date someone they are clearly incompatible with, only that they should respect them without believing that difference makes them superior. If you agree with the concept of giving everyone equal opportunities and respect, without trying to make them feel like they have less worth for harmless desires, that’s feminism.
I read and understood your comments, they just weren’t relevant to what husbands value in wives. I’m speaking of the majority of course, not the exception. You’ve projected a female value system onto men twice now, and made moral judgments against men for a biologically hardwired preference in women.
Woman 1: I will be married to a man someday and I’m living my life in a way that a majority of men will respect.
Woman 2: You are a misogynist (an insult).
Woman 1: You are a hoe (an insult).
You imply that I can’t know for sure that most men prefer women who value low body counts. Then you also imply that it’s true but it’s because of “the patriarchy”. Then you say “ just because lots of men value low body counts, doesn’t mean it’s moral, correct or justifiable”. This is once again expecting men to operate under a female value system. Men do not have the burden of proving to the average OF model that they are morally justified in selecting a life partner based on minimal levels of promiscuity. It’s between the husband and the wife, and in this case, the woman agrees so no issue, right? No. The only one with the issue is this “feminist”. She can’t accept that another woman had a thought in her head that doesn’t celebrate women objectifying themselves as sexual entertainment. There are no men in this conversation forcing her to say this, she just understands men and doesn’t demonize what they value. This is unacceptable to a modern feminist, so she had to accuse her of hating all women. As if all women aspire to be OF models and insulting OF models is insulting all women because that’s all women are good for. It’s an objectively sexist viewpoint. You say that a feminist can be all sorts of things, so you disagree with the woman who called her a misogynist? Can a women be a feminist and also disagree with OF, kind of like all first and second wave feminists? No, they insist that a person who is against the sex industry is against women. I’m not saying women can’t be sex workers, I’m saying I will not pledge the rest of my life to a sex worker and informing you that that is a very common sentiment amongst men. I’m not saying that women not wanting their sexual history to matter to men is demonizing them, I’m saying that calling them misogynists for not wanting to pledge their life to them is demonizing. Not asking about their history is neutral. That’s what I am. Neutral. Pledging my life to someone is an extreme positive. That’s what marriage is. It’s central to my identity to be a good husband. My standards are extreme in that regard obviously because I’ll only ever do it once. Calling someone a misogynist is a negative. Woman 2 is calling woman 1 something negative because she values what the person who will treat her as an extreme positive would also value. Every woman had equal opportunities to earn my respect. Some of those women chose to sleep with dozens of men without a commitment from them, and demonize my disinterest in wanting to commit to them. Again, I don’t hate them. I just don’t want to pledge my life to them, because their is a much higher likelihood that they will seek sexual attention from other men, if that was their previous career.
[+][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I had about 3/4 of my response typed out but I left it open without completing it and it’s refreshed and gone. I would retype it however there’s so many flaws in your arguments that it would be time consuming and tedious and I don’t think you or I care enough
So you what you have to say isn’t worth saying, I’m just wrong, and you delete your account…
[–]I_am_Godfather1 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This doesn't make any sense. What exactly is 'feminine' according to you? Do you consider being submissive to be feminine?
Yes. That is one example of a feminine trait. Being highly selective in who sees you naked or has sex with you might be another.
[–]dependency_injector 50 points51 points52 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't it misogyny to be unhappy with decisions women make in their lives?
[–]EnragedPickle 27 points28 points29 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not according to the town cumbucket
[–]DazzlingBranch476 106 points107 points108 points 1 year ago (40 children) | Copy Link
He will appreciate her purity, discretion, modesty, etc.
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 85 points86 points87 points 1 year ago (34 children) | Copy Link
He will apprecitate her not bein used like a cum bucket
[–]Annonymous_ITG 32 points33 points34 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't that a restaurant in bikini bottom?
[–]SuperSupremeKai 22 points23 points24 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At least it won't be as crusty as crusty crabs'.
[–]Friendly-Cricket-715 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No,that’s the chum bucket
[+]sas0002 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (30 children) | Copy Link
This sub: why are you making fun of male virgins (which I don’t do btw)
Also this sub:
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Ah yes. Not wantin my future wife to be used like a sex doll clearly shows im a virgin. Only a feminist could figure that out
[–]raiden_san1 points 1 year ago [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
Lol, tell me you know nothing about feminism without telling me.
Most feminists are against sex industry. But to know that, you actually need to read something and talk to actual feminists, which people on this sub obviously don’t do.
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I been to sum of these feminist subreddit
[+]sas0002 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link
I never said you were a virgin, I said y’all talk about how har sit is for male virgins then turn around and spew whatever this is.
Also you don’t use the word “used” to describe people.
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (11 children) | Copy Link
What wrong with the post?
Im describing their actions... and the description is accurate no matter how much it offends feminists. Remember when woman didnt like objectification... and now yall ask for it for money.
[+]sas0002 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She says calls her a ho which is a derogatory term, they’re both in the wrong imo.
No? Wtf why would I do that.
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not u but more and more feminist. Yea then maybe she shouldnt be a ho. Its not good to be a ho. Her choice
[–]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
I can tell consent isn’t something you’re familiar with
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Thats even worsr. Your consensually degrading yourself. No ones gonna sympatize
[+]EditorPositive -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
How is being a sex worker or having a lot of sex degrading? 💀
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
The same reason y the average woman isnt a prostitue.its humliating but of course your prob so desensitized that u wouldnt feel that way.
A nudist colony wouldnt understand y people r too embarrased to walk outside naked in a civilized society
[–]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (13 children) | Copy Link
No it shows that you have issues with people who have more experience than you💀
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not stayin afyer i f em means i have issues. This is y woman shoukdnt try to get in a mans buissness. U don understand us
Typo ignore em
[+]EditorPositive -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Are you drunk while typing this cause I can barely understand what you’re saying? No, I won’t understand why men are so pissy about women having sex💀
[–]iHitOrphansWithMyVan 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (9 children) | Copy Link
If you want to date a sex worker go ahead, but it doesn’t mean everyone else should
I’m not saying everyone should, I’m saying women doing sex work shouldn’t be viewed in such a demonized way
[–]iHitOrphansWithMyVan 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Not demonizing sex work is understandable, calling people insecure for not dating a sex worker, not so much
[+]EditorPositive 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
Depends. Do they not like it cause they don’t want to deal with the repercussions the job entails or do they just not like the fact that someone’s body is exposed?
[–]yaboiw00dy24 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Wouldn't your girlfriends body being exposed count as one of those repercussions tho? It's like the whole "I respect it and see no reason not to do it as long as you don't have children".. Okay but what about your husband? Not every husband is cool with their wife being Jack off material for anyone who can pay pocket change lol. If you're a man and you're into that then fine but most men are looking for monogamous relationships. Onlyfans is no different from sexting and in my head is cheating. (dated a girl who had one once and it was not a fun experience at all. Also regret that my dick is now on her page for anyone to see.) does this make me insecure for having preferences? Like really?
[–]I_am_Godfather1 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
This is hardly correct. Most people don't care about 'purity' or whatever that means. Most people only care about looks and how attractive a person is. That's it.
[–]DazzlingBranch476 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm not sure what definition of purity you mean. I didn't marry a virgin, and I didn't want too, but if I were single now, I really do not think I would marry an Only Fans model or a girl that gave me the impression she had had frequent one-night stands, or rather, made it her lifestyle. Are there factors that could change my mind? Sure. But all factors being the same, I'm choosing the girl who is more modest: modesty adds value to a girl, and I don't think this is as uncommon as you think, but I'm also in my upper 30s, so maybe things have changed.
[–]OnRiverStyx 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of it is exclusivity and having a healthy sexual relationship.
I don't want a dollar amount on enjoying my spouses body.
[+]SecretaryCautious864 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can the same be said about the man in this situation though? Should men be praised for no going out shirtless, being modest, and their purity as well?
[–]Drakethepirate 59 points60 points61 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
She has standards
[–]Echo_XB3 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Professionals have standars
[–]NeoSyncline 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Unless they're professional hoes.
[–]Artanis_Aximili 38 points39 points40 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Misoginy is when you don't want to do debauchery
[–]Ogreblack 39 points40 points41 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you listen to the western woman message and really boil down the use of the word “misogyny” it comes out like this: Woman having standards or preferences is empowerment. Men having standards or preferences is hateful.
[–]Mycroft033 23 points24 points25 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think he’ll also appreciate her savagery
[–]C834 20 points21 points22 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sadly, it is the norm to lose your innocence at a young age and not be loyal to others. A reason why the western world is such a shallow and empty place with so many suicides.
[–]DaddySmallJohn 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I understand how it happened, but I can never forgive the nose brigades and feminists for destroying the west. Family doesn't matter. Virginity is a damn myth these days. We have an insane amount of pedophiles, which honestly I believe are being created due to the hypergamous and impure culture we have, and we are continuing in a downward spiral. Rome wasn't built in a day, but it also didn't fall in a day either. We are falling right now, and the West will implode on itself as more generations pass. The sad state of affairs is creating people with power who grew up and exist in these affairs. A war will happen over this, its only a matter of when.
[+]sas0002 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Family doesn’t matter”
Yes it does, and if it doesn’t to you that’s fine because it’s your life.
“Virginity is a damn myth”
No? Also why does virginity matter I can understand not wanting to have a partner with 50 bodies but if you want you should be able to have as many bodies as you want. Also yes the intact hymen is a myth you can break it horse riding cycling, should you marry your horse because you broke you’re hymen while riding it?
“We have an insane amount of pedophiles”
As scientists seek to understand how the disorder develops, there is growing consensus that the origin is largely biological. This view is based in part on studies pointing to subtle physical traits that have a higher incidence among pedophiles.
“The biological clues attached to pedophilia demonstrate that its roots are prenatal,” said James Cantor, director of the Toronto Sexuality Center. “These are not genetic; they can be traced to specific periods of development in the womb.”https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/29/us/pedophiles-online-sex-abuse.html
A quick Google shows that most of the countries with the highest suicide rates aren’t western.
In 2019, the ten countries with the highest suicide rates (number of suicides per 100k) were:
Lesotho - 72.4 Guyana - 40.3 Eswatini - 29.4 South Korea - 28.6 Kiribati - 28.3 Federated States of Micronesia - 28.2 Lithuania - 26.1 Suriname - 25.4 Russia - 25.1 South Africa - 23.5
[–]Dadumdee 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women oppress women better than men could if we tried. Funny part about that statement is that both sides of this argument on twitter would agree.
[–]Akhlyr 16 points17 points18 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
2based4her
[–]blackdahlialady 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Good women don't go showing their bits to everyone. It's exactly part of the reason why my husband married me. He said that he liked that I wasn't out there parading around for every man to see. A good wife doesn't do that.
Edit: typo
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Your rare. Your husbands lucky
[–]blackdahlialady 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Awwww thank you 😊
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The sad thing is, woman that shames men for liking porn, whilst at the same time promoting their body for a few dollars a month. They are the ones obsessed with sexual stuff.
At the end of the day the industry they choose is smut. That's there choice, whatever, but shaming people who are against onlyfans?
That's lower than the monthly value they put on themselves.
[–]LondonLobby 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
promoting their body for a few dollars a month
those women don’t respect their clientele yet they demand respect from the world..
[–]August-7 14 points15 points16 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Off-topic,
the other day i saw a post about an Asian woman carrying wood in a forest, she was both more masculine than your average western man, and more feminine than your average western woman..
The Chinese propaganda video?
[–]IgorRenfield 7 points8 points9 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Epic smackdown!
[–]aguapic 15 points16 points17 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fast forward 15/20 years, one will have a rich and fulfilled happy life while the other will be a miserable childless, no partner and still a wench.
[–]Jihocech_Honza 11 points12 points13 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or a single mother.
[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Feminists are jealous of submissive and breedable women
[–]FreshPitch6026 12 points13 points14 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminists are jealous of all other women and men it seems. They just express it in hate.
[+]sas0002 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Submissive, breedable 🤢
[–]iHitOrphansWithMyVan 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It’s a common piece of satire poking fun at neck beards and discord mods, chill out
[–]Hritthik02 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She is the one. We must protect her
[–]GltyUntlPrvnInncnt 9 points10 points11 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So, Isabella is getting married because that's exactly what men want. Mara, though, well I see a future for her, with cats.
[–]Former_Ocelot5593 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I thought feminists were pro women, yet this one can't support another woman in what she wants (to be in a happy relationship and maybe a mother). I'm so glad the other lady put the feminist in her place tho lmaooo
[–]meowpoosaymeow 6 points7 points8 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Based Isabella
[–]kewlaz 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
165k follower on twitter, not bad
[–]shinobigarth 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She didn’t drop the mic, she freaking threw it.
[–]Rongorongo2 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
onlyFans is losers whoring for bigger losers
[–]Training-Rich5057 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is great!
[–]JustaTcup 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lol this was happy at the end. I thought it was going to go badly for her. Good for her.
[–]Vulture051 -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Honestly it sounds like she's, I'm not sure what to call it, "tradwife signalling"
Looked her up before hitting save, she's some retard that works for Turning Point USA. Lil' Miss Purity probably knows what Charlie Kirk's dick tastes like.
[–]SecretaryCautious864 -2 points-1 points0 points 1 year ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Is it really a win to praise someone who decides to others based on their own personal choices? I don’t know who this Isabella is, but her tweet is obviously a bit “pick me”. Does another woman having an only fans affect her that deeply? No. Does her deciding not to have one affect other women? No. It’s very “I’m not like other girls” in such a weird way. I know a lot of people on here won’t agree because of the constant sexual shaming of women, but imagine the gender reversed
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Whos the one that got called a mysogynist for not showing her tits in the internet? You gurls will call others pick me and then wonder why men dont wanna stay after they f u. Shes not a pick me shes just a normal person with self respect
[+]SecretaryCautious864 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Well it’s misogynistic to shame others for their choices. Just because someone wouldn’t make the same choice, it doesn’t mean it’s wrong.
Also what’s with the projection? It’s not that deep. Please learn to spell. I don’t know how you’ve gotten this far in life with a lack of basic grammar and horrid behavior
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (8 children) | Copy Link
Lmfao what?? Its not myogynistic to shame peoples choices 🤣god u feminists always call everything mysogynistic. Sorry but the internet jerking off to your tits is not respectable. Would you want your family member to hav an onlyfans? Espiecally when you r the same type of people who complain about objectification.
[+]SecretaryCautious864 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (7 children) | Copy Link
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (6 children) | Copy Link
U sounded like a feminist and ...
We need to stop acting like we’re responsible for the choices and behavior of others in every aspect of their lives.
No ones sayin that... that doesnt mean their personal choices r normal. Its humiliating and theres a reason y the average women doesnt post her tits out. They hav too much self respect.
ike would your family be delighted to see what you’re posting on Reddit?
Y wouldnt they?
[+]SecretaryCautious864 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children) | Copy Link
By what your saying it, it seems like these random OF girls choices are deeply affecting you. As an adult, you have the ability to choose what you consume. You can date a girl who chooses not to do that, but don’t shame others. It’s creepy and weird to obsess over someone’s “self-respect”. Agree to disagree, but don’t serve what you can’t handle thrown back at you.
Also, correct me if I’m wrong, but most families would be disturbed to know that one of their members is going online and referring to women who choose to make different life choices as “the town cumbuckets”. As if these women are forcing men to cum in them or hypnotizing them to have sex with them. It takes two to tango, so we can’t act like it’s the woman’s fault causal sex exist.
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children) | Copy Link
others. It’s creepy and weird to obsess over someone’s “self-respect”. Okay its weird and creepy to care about who another guy disrespects. women who choose to make different life choices as “the town cumbuckets”.
others. It’s creepy and weird to obsess over someone’s “self-respect”. Okay its weird and creepy to care about who another guy disrespects.
women who choose to make different life choices as “the town cumbuckets”.
Yea well i described those life choices pretty well... the whole internet jerkin of to your tits sounds pretty shameful... only the most respectable woman would choose such respectable life choices.
[+]SecretaryCautious864 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (3 children) | Copy Link
It’s pretty shameful to be a man to shames women and the choices they make, putting sexual blame on them for everything. Only the most respectable men would choose such respectable life choices.
Also thanks for admitting to disrespect. Atleast you’re self-ware and know you look down on others
[–]alphagigachadsigma[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I dont think yk what shame means. Because now your bein a hypocrite for shaming me 🤣 Why cant u just accept that women can make bad choices that humiliate themselves. Kevin samuels was right... accountabilty is really kryptonite. If i was walking outside completely naked and then got laughed at ... no one would defend me because that was my choice. Since when was shaming others for their laughable choices was wrong? Even u would shame people ... you were doin it earlier
[–]Fun_Push7168 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
No, no it isn't. It would be misogynistic to shame women based on their gender.
Misogyny is not hatred or prejudice against choices.
Please look up the definition of a word before you use it if you're going to be worried about other people's grammar.
An example to help you understand;
if you posted " no, I'm not a mechanic. I'm going to be a husband someday" or " because I'm not a crook"
Is it misandry? Nope.
You just don't like mechanics and stereotyped them.
[–]SecretaryCautious864 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
dear god, you don't even get your own example or have a basic understanding of the original post
[+]Awkward_Buddy7350 -15 points-14 points-13 points 1 year ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I hope that one day , porn industry will be a normal, accepted job like any other.
[–]Former_Ocelot5593 17 points18 points19 points 1 year ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not everything needs to be normalized
[–]jokarzen 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Purity doesn't even factor into this. It's more about not being a liability and a preference for a partner that is inconspicuous. Quite a lot of people very much prefer not to attract the attention of others in a sexual way, neither directly nor by proxy through the history of a partner.
Might be that it would be in the past that I smeared big fat turds all over my body for pay, but plenty of women wouldn't appreciate that association drawn to them as my partner.
People who don't understand this have shit for brains or are just severely lacking in the social antenna department.
Just throwing it out there but you can be both.
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