I am going to post this on as many communities that are related to self-improvement and positive masculinity as I can so I apologize if it doesn't fit a particular sub's

I just stumbled upon r/doomer today looking for some ironic doomer memes but going through these posts I realized that people are actually embracing this as a lifestyle...like they know it's just a meme right? After spending most of my teenage years posting on 4chan and other boards festered with other the pseudo-intellectual and above-it-all teenagers and young adults, I have realized that most of these boards utilize tactics that make it impossible to shake off their "doomer" (unironic in this sense) mentality of everything's fucked. For example, they will automatically label you a normie, blue pilled cuck or whatever other angsty bitter fueled diatribe once you offer up advice to maybe stop being an overanalyzing misanthropic and disillusioned shut-in, as these labels and boxes help them rationalize their "world-views" even further as clearly you are just a Reddit normie who doesn't know what he or she is talking about or "but everything's over for me b/c of (insert circumstance that most people in the history of this fucking earth have gone through but now you have the internet to continue to revel in your misery with other miserable people rather than actually seek help from the people in your life). This was even apparent in the other seemingly less crypto-fascist and neckbeard navel-gazing parts of 4chan such as /mu/, where liking anything remotely popular will cause you to be labeled as the dreaded normie...trust me bro knowing all of the b-sides to Radiohead's albums and thinking Arctic Monkeys is teenage girls is not a personality you just come across as an edgelord believe me I've been there. I think these forums and subs give people a sense of security as it fuels their belief that they're "misunderstood-too-smart-for-this-world-to-relate-to-anyone!!" and call any self-improvement a meme because it would have to take some self-reflection and god forbid some lifestyle changes. Some tactics also used include phrases thrown around such as "women have life on easy mode" or "if you are on this website you are stuck here m8", as if women, and particularly the manic-pixie-doomer girl they idolize probably doesn't moisturize her face for an hour every day and puts an effort to create the life she wants while simultaneously decrying the state of Western women because obviously they only fall for the attractive Chads while their sanctimonious attitudes and refusal to accept that everyone on this planet shares similar anxieties. Building a social circle, friends and relationships require a little effort on their part and maybe learning how to express interest in a non-pickup way and not throwing a fit for every time a girl rejects you or not thinking you're getting cucked because you have idolized a certain girl to a point of unhealthy infatuation and then decides she's just not into you that way and values your friendship as if that's the worst thing in the fucking world. Call me a white knight-beta-mangina all you want, believe me, I understand it can be hard to disavow a community that you have been a part of for so long and I have been in your boat and have absorbed all of the rebuttals and memes and other shit they'll throw at you when you call them out on any of this. Even though a community may not be as extreme as r/incels, they may still harbor similar sentiments of indoctrination and an "everything is shit and none of it is my fault" mentality that actively restrains you from getting off your ass and starting to make a foundation for yourself. I'm not trying to suggest that anything that features slightly edgy or dark humor is inherently toxic (fuck it me and my friends use 4chan lingo and send memes all the time) but please for the love of god just recognize them for the ironic memes they are. The pseudo-intellectual and edgy identity that you think you are forming from browsing these places is superficial and thinly-veiled and is probably the reason why so many of these people repel any love and friendship that happens to come into their lives. Misery loves company, do yourself a favor and recognize the value and worth you bring to this world and get the fuck off of any community that may harbor these toxic individuals and ideas.

tl;dr: Toxic communities give you a false sense of identity and blanket of security that only fuels bitterness for yourself and others. They thrive off negativity and use other tactics to pull you in and keep you from leaving.