Do men really get better with age?

r2401 · 2021-08-11T18:39:13+00:00

Absolutely not. This is one of the biggest copes of the red pill. They all unironically use Rollo's SMV graph where a 40 year old man has the same SMV as a 22 year old woman.

To defend this they always say, look at George Clooney! If you stay in shape and do the work and have your shit together you are the prize at 40! Yeah sure if you do all those things, but if you did all those things you wouldn't be the average 40 year old man would you? Why are we comparing George Clooney's smv to the average 22 year woman? We should compare avg to avg. The avg 40 year old man is fat and the avg 21 year old woman wants nothing to do with him. And no, making a WHOLE six figures is not going to convince that 21 year old girl.

Women could easily cite Jennifer Lopez and say there is no wall because she's 52. Is she the average 52 year old?

I really want these red pill content creators who apparently "have their shit together" to head to the nearest college campus and see how many 22 year old hotties they can pick up. That will tell you everything you need to know about "men age like fine wine."

pli55k3n · 2021-08-11T12:31:14+00:00

"When this shit is over, I think you're gonna find yourself one smiling motherfucker. The thing is, Butch, right now, you've got ability. But painful as it may be, ability don't last. And your days are just about over. Now, that's a hard motherfucking fact of life. But it's a fact of life your ass is gonna have to get realistic about. See, this business is filled to the brim with unrealistic motherfuckers. Motherfuckers who thought their ass would age like wine. If you mean it turns to vinegar, it does. If you mean it gets better with age, it don't. Besides, Butch, how many fights you think you got left in you anyway? Two? Boxers don't have an "old timer's league". You came close, but you never made it, and if you were gonna make it, you would have made it before now." - Marcellus Wallace

Gmed66 · 2021-08-11T10:32:06+00:00

Nah it's just cope. They might be better because they have more resources like a house and a car but that's about it. Basically being a better provider and nothing else.

Justice_is_a_scam · 2021-08-11T08:43:29+00:00

I think everyone does. I'm certainly not interested in befriending or dating 18 year olds lol.

Embrace the aging process tbh. Every decade is a new lens to look through.

The idea that women only get worse with age is misogynistic at best and pedophilic at its worst. The fact that Prada, Gucci, and Victoria Secret use 15 year old girls to model their adult clothing/lingerie is problematic and reinforces the idea that female beauty standards are based on child-like physiques.

SadKnight123 · 2021-08-11T13:31:31+00:00

They do get better provided that they work on themselves, take care of their health, lived and got experiences and skills through life, have money and etc.

An old guy who is a wreck, never worked on anything, and didn't take care of himself, will not be "better" just for being old. Probably the contrary.

Inareskai · 2021-08-11T16:33:45+00:00

In the same way cheese does - it depends.

_Terrible_Advice_ · 2021-08-11T16:47:14+00:00

Nothing wrong with getting older. Just keep up with your mental and physical health. It doesn't hurt to develop or maintain hobbies. Both genders get more attractive with age so long as they grow as people.

Naus1987 · 2021-08-11T19:14:47+00:00

My artist friend tells me that if I draw a circle 1,000 times that it doesn’t mean I’ll get better at circles.

What matters is that I “practice with intention.”

Getting old is like that. You can either spin your wheels in place, or you can practice with intention and become a better person.

Either way you get older. But those who take advantage of the opportunity to grow will always be better than those who idle.

jasielalberto · 2021-08-11T16:33:59+00:00

Only if your taking care of your self, it applies to anyone. But just by simply existing,then no.

One_Ad1283 · 2021-08-11T17:28:24+00:00

Not the ones around here. They got beer guts, balding and health problems worse than the women. I have also heard men should be millionaires by 40. Pfft. Around here, most everything is financed. Most are wealthy because of their parents or grandparents and get by with everything because of their name. I live in a small town here in Texas.

RedPillDetox · 2021-08-11T09:39:01+00:00

It depends. Men do get better with age in terms of making more money, becoming more stable and more interested in commitment, more knowledgeble and experienced, and there's a certain charm with age. These are all positive characteristics for women. Women also seem to become more comfortable with their sexuality as they age, and also may become less picky, factors that may increase the pool of options for older men - but typically with women around their age. Contrary to popular belief, the average age gap is only 2 to 5 years, a preference that lasts until women late 40s. So i'd say that a guy that takes good care of himself, ages well, has a decent job, checked emotional luggage, older age may be a booster, particularly with women around his own age.

Now, from the TRP perspective - that "men age like wine" and that 30 to 45 years old is the top window to attract 16 - 25 year old women is an absolute fantasy and an absolute cope, no amount of hamstering will lead otherwise.

daria1994 · 2021-08-11T10:10:11+00:00

Why do you think there are so many escorts and ‘sugar babies‘ out there? Because hundreds of millions of ‘mature’ men want to have a younger partner, and there are very few women willing to date them with no compensation involved....

Why are there so few sugar mommas even tho some older women want a younger, sexier lover? Because hundreds of millions of sexy, young men are begging to date a ‘milf’.

So tell me which gender experiences a wall again?

JimBeamAndCoke2016 · 2021-08-12T04:54:40+00:00

No. This falls under the Red Pill myth category.

GPDF · 2021-08-11T09:15:31+00:00

Better in what way? Physically? Generally speaking; no (receding hairline, weight gain, health decline, etc). Men get better with age in a financial sense. Male aging= more money= increased ability to attract young women, according to RP. Which is absolutely hilarious. The average man (and RPer) would NEVER make enough money to attract young beautiful women.

Booda069 · 2021-08-11T19:58:59+00:00

Yeah but it's 60/40 imo ....

BiWomanHealing · 2021-08-11T21:24:21+00:00

It has pros and cons. The only real “wall” is not taking care of your health. Extra weight, alcohol, smoking, partying and terrible eating and sleeping habits are survivable in your 20’s... it catches up to you as you age though. Also, for both sexes, if you didn’t take your money seriously or made reckless decisions, you start to realize that those have long term consequences. Lots of people have the best health (and therefore appearance) of their life in middle age because they start taking it seriously and working on it (prepping their meals, sleeping well).

Shycel · 2021-08-11T23:01:33+00:00

Its cope its absulety false the reality is dat men are paid better with age and women are a bit less picky

Gmed66 · 2021-08-12T04:13:56+00:00

No. Vast majority of women in good mental health are into men around their own age. A guy at 45 isn't that appealing to a girl who is 25 (I say that since those guys preach how older age = better appeal physically to younger women).

Everyone's looks decline with age but some lucky ones look equally as good into their 30s. No one looks better in their 40s than earlier. And no one really improves into their 30s with the exception of those who lose significant body fat (assuming they were genuinely overweight before).

So as a normal body weight guy in your 20s, or normal weight female in 20s - aging will cause decline in looks as you enter your 30s.

ladyredheart · 2021-08-12T08:26:00+00:00

I absolutely don't think they do

slitwristlarry117 · 2021-08-12T03:51:25+00:00

This is unfortunately true in a lot of ways, insofar as 40 year old men are far more appealing to 40 year old women than the converse. That being said 40 year old men aren’t particularly attractive to 19 year old Instagram models so there is some delusion going on on the part of the red pill cultists.

Executionoverexcuses · 2021-08-19T07:50:21+00:00

Unless they were attractive to begin with no and even if they do age well they still looked better when they were younger

kblkbl165 · 2021-08-12T15:45:49+00:00

Kind of dissonant opinion here:

I don’t think men get better with age but I believe men peak later.

Like it or not, one of the few things TRP gets right is that men are the most scrutinized in relation to their financial condition. And it doesn’t mean women are looking for money or anything like it. Young men date young women, old men date old women but a men in his 28-32 pretty much dates anyone he wants if he’s financially stable and does the bare minimum to take care of himself.

I never had much issues with women, used TRP mainly as means to validate being a huge piece of shit, was your typical jock through my late teens and early 20’s but damn if dating in my late 20’s with a stable financial situation and barely any responsibilities doesn’t feel like ultra easy mode.

Young men are severely hamstrung by their financial instability while young women aren’t really ever expected to carry their own weight(doesn’t mean they shouldn’t or don’t want, it just means it doesn’t really hampers their dating life).

And I’m not talking about paying for sex or anything, just regular amenities that women get used to very early in their adult life that end up only being possible for the average man when he’s older, like having a car, affording to travel, having his own place...

Title	Do men really get better with age?
Author	spankyourkopita
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Date	August 11, 2021 8:36 AM UTC (2 years ago)
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