men having to pay for 100% of dates + expensive stuff is not true.

xvszero · 2022-05-19T23:07:57+00:00

I've literally never paid for 100% of a date except the first date with my wife, which she offered to pay half on and I said nah, I'll get this date you get the next one. But I mostly dated progressive women so you know. You kind of get what you're looking for. Red pill dudes are weird because they're so pro gender roles but then they get so damn angry about gender roles.

imhereforthemeta · 2022-05-20T03:27:48+00:00

Our household is 60/40 based on income…we treat all splits of stuff like % of income rather than 50:50. We were like that with dates too. When he was unemployed I covered everything. When I was making shit and he was ballin he covered more. A lot of couples are about utility these days.

creamerfam5 · 2022-05-19T23:30:16+00:00

A simple truth of life is that no one "has" to do anything. These made up rules the RP has are so oppressive yet they claim to be the truth that sets you free.

DocGlabella · 2022-05-19T22:22:34+00:00

I generally don’t let men pay for me entirely until we are actually dating (then we take turns). Some guys feel entitled to sex if you let them pay. So I almost always go 50/50 for the first couple dinners. If I decide I might have sex with you, then I let you pay. Ha.

Jeditard · 2022-05-20T06:05:55+00:00

I have never had a guy offer to take me on a date and pay for everything. It used to be like that 40 years ago but not today.

AntiVictimhood · 2022-05-20T12:26:53+00:00

This is it. In the world of normies, these rules don't apply and people have diverse preferences. I feel like so much RP advice is based on such a narrow dating dynamic, it's really not broadly applicable. Like when I see F&F make statements about women, that probably holds true for Miami sugar babies, but in your average town/city, it's not a common dynamic or approach to dating.

My ex was unemployed for the first 2 years we dated. We were both in school. I was in grad school on a scholarship and also worked for my school- so I had a really solid disposable income. I always got my partner treats and gifts because I like to show my love that way. And splitting bills was expected- we were both college students.

I'd only ever have a real issue with the man not paying for dates/ getting gifts if I felt that I was being used or things were never reciprocated. Alternatively, if guys are extremely cheap despite making a solid income. To me that just indicates that we may have different lifestyle preferences and there could be some incompatibility.

Jeditard · 2022-05-20T01:50:17+00:00

There's nothing wrong if a man wants to pay for a whole meal for a date or not and theres nothing wrong with a woman looking for a man paying for the dinner. If you're the type of guy looking for a 50/50 relationship theres nothing wrong with that either. There is plenty of women who are on board with that. But why shame people's preferences? Me personally I work from home and my spouse provides most income so he has paid for all of our dates.

Training_Passenger79 · 2022-05-20T06:31:28+00:00

It’s so nice to hear from guys that contradict TRP’s dogma. Thanks for sharing!

whatdaheckk98 · 2022-05-20T08:18:45+00:00

Thank you, I wish more RP-ers would see that their "truth" is all wrong. I always offer to pay half or ask them up front if they would pay for me. And of course I will pay the whole thing too sometimes if I'm consistently dating someone

-Faoladh- · 2022-05-20T10:39:50+00:00

I was with a guys for 6 years then on and off for 3 years after we split up. In that entire period I paid for all his weed. We went out on a ‘date’ maybe 4 times and I paid every single time. He would make me pay for hotel rooms so he could come to London and spend hundreds on luxury products for himself and I just got dragged around the store. He would occasionally tell me I could pick out one thing in a store then tell me it was too expensive at $7 and I should t spend money on dumb shitZ He was 6 years older than me with a good job and 100k of inheritance money I’m the bank. I paid rent in advance on our apartment whilst also paying my dad, me made me quit my job and move 180 miles. 6 weeks later I didn’t have a new job (I ask I have disabilities) so he threw me out on the street sold and threw out all of my stuff.

My current partner lives next door but was kicked out and my next door neighbour told him that he had to move in with me without ever speaking to ME about it. I had 2 days notice. The rent comes out of my welfare entitlement. I spend all my disability on the house. I pay the gas/electric/water bills, all the food, bedding/medicine for our 11 pets (except mice for 2 of his snakes and dry food for the dog), I make sure the rent account is balanced, council tax, he pays for the internet, I buy all the ‘real’ food (he buys chocolate and candy). My money is not my money but his money is his money.

heytheredelilah91 · 2022-05-21T06:43:39+00:00

Every guy I've dated (but one) I've made more money than them. We also would split expenses/dates roughly 50/50. We wouldn't necessarily only pay for ourselves, but we would simply take turns paying for dates/outings/gifts.

vcreativ · 2022-05-21T11:54:35+00:00

i bring good vibes.

Seems perfectly reasonable. I can confirm. One lady was adamant to pay before, with another when receiving the bill my immediate response was, "we're definitely splitting that" and we did.

No they don't run and hide after. Some might. It depends if they're interested in your money or not. And if they are, it's ok to let them go.

Don't fall into the trap of giving a leech blood just for them to stick around. There's no value in their presence. Filter for sensible people first.

mikesuforexnews · 2022-05-24T11:14:39+00:00

The rules are different depending on who plays.

(think some 40y/o rando dating women in their 20s)

I'm 22yo dating a 48yo woman and I have to pay for 100% of dates. Yes, you read that right. Because she knows my only other option is jerking off, she can take advantage of that.

Also all younger girls I tried pursuing wanted the dates to be paid 100% too - except they were just leading me on for the sake of it/. Because they knew I'm desperate and took advantage of that.

How do they know I have no options? Folks here will say it's because I show desperation somehow non verbally, but no: it's because I'm bald at 23. Before I went bald women would invite me to dates and pay for me without me ever asking for it, I felt awkward and paid my share almost always - I'm no sociopath to exploit others' feelings after all.

So this post is nonsense. You don't have to pay? Congrats. It's not because of your "vibe" or whatever achievement you want to so humbly attribute to yourself. And it doesn't apply to everybody - I'd even guess only about half of men don't have to pay for dates

Title	men having to pay for 100% of dates + expensive stuff is not true.
Author	Apprehensive-Farm384
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Date	May 19, 2022 9:58 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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