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Becoming increasingly disturbed and disgusted by videos on TikTok of very young women and even teenagers asking to be dominated and choked and spat on and verbally abused during sex...

April 1, 2021
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These are people with very little experience in sex and who have developed their ideas of what they ‘like’ from pornography and discourse around kink-positivity, and also likely from some scrotes who have been suggesting that this is what they should like. The porn industry is literally teaching women that they should be abused in bed and that not only is this the ‘norm’ but that if they do not like it, they are kink shaming and boring.

Why is it becoming more and more normalised to accept verbal and physical abuse in the most intimate parts of your relationship? This is absolutely terrifying. We are grooming an entire generation of women to be sexually abused and degraded for their own ✨empowerment✨.

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Title Becoming increasingly disturbed and disgusted by videos on TikTok of very young women and even teenagers asking to be dominated and choked and spat on and verbally abused during sex...
Author luceario
Upvotes 852
Comments 67
Date April 1, 2021 9:02 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]sikedykeFDS Newbie 202 points203 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I’ve seen tutorials on tiktok that is about how to tie someone Shibari style and how to choke someone “safely”. I can imagine a hundred different ways this could go wrong.

It’s absolutely degrading, but someone needs to have a real talk about how it’s also fucking dangerous.

[–]bbphn 64 points65 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no safe way to do breathplay/choking someone - this has been stated by medical groups numerous times

[–]Nice_Pass2393FDS Newbie 112 points113 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

An American woman studying abroad in Italy was killed by being choked during sex. It was all consensual. This was at least 10 years ago yet choking became even more mainstream since then

[–][deleted] 133 points134 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

More than a handful of men who've straight up raped and murdered women have gotten away with it using a "rough sex" defense.

[–]imnotfitforexistenceThrowaway Account 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just listened to a podcast called "We can't consent to this" about it a couple weeks ago. It's sickening how many men were found not guilty for killing women by strangulation claiming it was "consensual rough sex".

For anyone interested, here's the link to it: https://open.spotify.com/episode/0Lw0RRAD1N6YvvslMspDCL

[–]WorkaholicPartyFDS Newbie 111 points112 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so embarrassing, especially when these girls are saying these preferences are due to their "daddy issues" 💀🤦. Porn, TV and music is increasingly being polluted with subliminal and not so implicit messaging about these things.

[–]CloacaDiddlerFDS Disciple 151 points152 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

If you saw a girl on her knees, makeup running down her face, crying, begging to stop, while a man stands above her and hits her, spits on her, and verbally abuses her....people would be rightly terrified. Oh but now that his dick is out it magically makes everything better?

Don’t ever be a slave to dick, the requirements are so far out of line.

[–]Betty_BottleFDS Newbie 197 points198 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Why is this violence and degradation always towards women and girls? Why are people not promoting slapping a guy around the face, or punching him in the balls, or spitting on him?

[–]ScrotonimoStiltonFDS Apprentice 49 points50 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Because apparently other men just don't consider a fellow man being penetrated, spat on and choked respectable or empowered.

They are so bigoted. We love stunning and brave kings who bend over and take it.

[–]MrsJohnMarston__FDS Newbie 162 points163 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

There’s been some good posts and comments on FDS about who ‘owns’ or investing in porn.

As power structures are self-replicating they find new ways to respond to potential threats which undermine their interests. This is why we’re seeing this abuse of women being sold off as “eMp0wErMeNt”.

These moguls are so keen to profit off abuse of women because they know that men are attracted to being dominant over women, as this planet has forever taught them that.

When you’ve got at least 50% of the population on your side, that’s a huge market, it becomes even bigger when you propagate to women under the guise if empowerment, then you’re really in the money.

Female subservience keeps everyone in their place. It makes LVM/ZVM think they’ve got real authority, while deceiving women they’re empowered. It’s self-replication. This is why people will resist us for challenging p0rn.

[–]nothing998FDS Newbie 89 points90 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Porn wouldn't be so prominent if it didn't play upon a vice that already existed within men. It has to be inherent to their psychology because they are so much more prone to it. I'm tired of people blaming the industry/childhood exposure, it's obviously an issue with men that needs to be addressed.

[–]SadMadNomadFDS Newbie 63 points64 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I agree with you. Women insist everything about men's behavior is based on socialization alone, but I don't buy it.

Men have beaten, tortured, raped, degraded, and hated women long before modern pornography existed. Men created porn out of their desire to subjugate women, and porn is a reflection of that desire.

Porn exacerbates misogyny, but even if all porn were wiped out tomorrow, misogyny would continue to exist. Men would find other ways to satiate their desire to harm women.

I believe many men are just plain evil and sadistic. It's not society, their parents or peers that made them that way; they are that way because they like being sadistic and exerting power over women. Porn is one facet of it.

If men and women were exactly the same, we'd see just as many popular videos of women choking men, spitting on men, torturing men, raping men, etc. But we don't. Even femdom is still all about male desires and doesn't reach to the levels of your average male-dominated hetero porn.

To sum it up: I don't think men are shit because of porn; I think men have always been shit and porn is shit because of them. Bleak, but I'm tired of skirting around it.

[–]lucearioPickmeisha™️[S] 14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I agree with this and it makes me so sad at a deep level that I have to try not to think about it too much. So grateful for the strong women I have in my life to ground me.

[–]SadMadNomadFDS Newbie 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It saddens me too, but I think it's worthwhile to reach out to other women. The more women encourage one another to criticize pornography, instill self-confidence in our boundaries, and reject men's fetishes and kinks, the more we can keep ourselves safe and healthy.

If men are going to stop watching pornography, it's probably going to happen after ruthless shaming from other men they respect, or after porn-use begins to severely disrupt their lives.

Despite how bleak nature is, I believe humans are a combination of nature and nurture, and we have the capability to control our actions. Men can control themselves and their urges, but a lot of them don't want to, and that's their problem.

[–]AnonPinkLadyPickmeisha™️ 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I also find this deeply depressing to think about and try not to. I do have a few positive male friendships in my life but they are few and far in between and I never doubt they could turn out to be like the rest, I just live knowing that. I accept that they may be kind to me now but I'm always ready for that to change.

Still it hurts, knowing I can never truly love a man without fearing this. But the evidence is rather undeniable.

[–]MrsJohnMarston__FDS Newbie 51 points52 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I do think there’s a psychological reason it appeals to men. I’m not sure if it’s inherent as much as latent tendency which is reinforced by powerful outlets of the patriarchy.

That said, if we can exercise agency and challenge it then so can men. I’m not one for false-class consciousness so I’m not going to let men off the hook for saying they’re brainwashed by society 🤡

[–]companyofwolvesFDS Newbie 31 points32 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Like, obviously male vice has a lot to do with the popularity of porn, but men are for better or for worse as much blank slates from birth as women. Yes, testosterone, but that doesn’t give them the IDEAS that the porn industry itself perpetuates.

Why would you not blame the industry and its decades-long push to expose people at increasingly younger ages to porn? It is not some benevolent happy place full of harmless people having fun: it is an industry built on RAPE and suffering and pain and making as much money as possible off those things. It is not just a hapless victim of men’s vices.

There is nothing “inherent’ in men’s psychology, this evolutionary psych shit is 100% bullshit and it is an excuse people give men to behave badly while blaming anything else.

This is not a pro-porn sub. It is a cruel, violent, horrific industry full of abuse who has been preying on children and easily hooked people no differently than the tobacco industry has done. And much like tobacco, went mainstream, and is now harming and outright killing people.

[–]nothing998FDS Newbie 27 points28 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I hate that men get to be seen as victims of the porn industry while most are fully grown adults and know the risks but choose to engage. They don't even care their dicks don't work, their dopamine receptors are fried, their girlfriends are unhappy, or the fact that thousands of women are debased and abused to do get there. 98% of men do not care.

Men run the porn industry too. Men have been sexually subjugating women for thousands of years. Why are they victims now? It's literally their fault and they deserve my resentment for nothing more than I can assume is inherent to them, since they've been dehumanizing us to exist only as our sexual organs for so long.

[–]MrsJohnMarston__FDS Newbie 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I definitely agree men aren’t victims. But there are individual men who profit far more off pornography than a lot of the individual men who watch it. In other words, porn has both high-profiting and low-profiting dividends.

Of course individual men can pretend they don’t have agency, but they do in their choice to consume it. This drives demand for more extreme pornography — p0rnsick limp d*ck — they saddle themselves with ED. Well you should have made better choices.

Once you have a generation of ED men sexually frustrated taking it out on women it’s easier to distract from the ones profiteering from the p0rn industry. There is a structural dimension to p0rn and why it remains prolific. But this doesn’t invalidate the subjective element. That is the discussion of how men as individuals use p0rn as part of their own-imposed regulation over their sexuality. Both Marx and Foucault are relevant here.

TL;DR ofc men have a choice to consume porn but it doesn’t make their dividend from watching it all that favourable both from an individual perspective and as a collective societal perspective.

[–]nothing998FDS Newbie 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Individual men seem to "profit" off if pornography greatly. It's one of the most important things in their lives. Most do not care if their dicks are broken. They really don't. I don't understand their thought process but they do, i'll never think like a man. Obviously they see some sort of value in porn that is so great that they are willing to sacrifice so much for it.

Most men know the evils of porn. They discuss it among themselves and spread memes about it. But that doesn't inspire most of them to quit. They are aware, they just do not care because porn is valuable to them in a way we will never see the logic in.

[–]companyofwolvesFDS Newbie 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I didn't say women aren't the victims. If you read my reply through again you can see that I was very specific in my word choices.

The porn industry is run by the wealthy to prey on the disadvantaged as performers and sold to consumers regardless of age or gender. It's an evil, soulless industry. That does not mean that men who make choices in adulthood are victims, where would you even get that from my post?

[–]nothing998FDS Newbie 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men are not blank slates who are helpless to the trauma of childhood exposure to pornography. Most girls are exposed to porn during their childhoods as well but I don't see them acting like this. A lot of people say evopsych is bullshit but what else am I supposed to believe? Every time, everywhere, they fall back into the same patterns of misogyny. It makes perfect sense that men are the way they are because it was more misogynistic men who got to pass down their genes compared to not.

I'm not going to excuse them by saying they were socialized go be monsters. I think there is a deep desire to be a monster and society only has to do a little coaxing to make them show it.

[–][deleted] 92 points93 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My heart breaks for Gen Z women. It was bad enough when I was a teenager, and it's only getting worse. Porn use was ubiquitous then too, but kink didn't seem as prevalent and most guys I knew thought anal was gross and had no interest in trying it out.

My brother (college age)is on OLD and I ask him periodically if he's meeting anybody. The other week he mentioned he just wants to match with a girl who doesn't want him to hurt her in bed. "Why don't people just want to be held anymore, I'm sick of all these girls talking about wanting to get choked before I even meet them in person."

[–]jasmine-blossomFDS Newbie 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The combination of high rates of misogynistic sexual violence and the ubiquitousness of misogynistic violence in mainstream porn has produced a generation of women who genuinely believes that their desire to be sexually hurt is somehow natural to their sexuality rather than a development of the environment in which they were raised. And they are being told by the kink community that these invasive thoughts or fantasies or desires are natural and that they should simply indulge them instead of questioning where they come from and whether it’s healthy for them to engage them. If you’ve ever try to talk to people engaged in kink, you will know exactly what I’m talking about when I say that the kink community is absolutely so resistant to examining the root causes of their kinks and whether engaging in them is a healthy activity for individuals and for a society. That community absolutely does not give one single fuck that there are thousands of young people who are developing kinks solely because of their early exposure to pornography or sexual abuse. They want all of these things to become more main stream so that they are accepted, while ignoring the huge problems inherent to mainstreaming sexualized violence. A young person who’s early exposure to porn or early sexual abuse has made them believe they are naturally “kinky,” will either realize way too late in life that they have retraumatized themself, or they will never realize and will become another close minded defensive member of the adult kink community who refuses to acknowledge how they came to be kinky in the first place.

[–]GoddessIxtabFDS Newbie 133 points134 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I'm appalled that choking someone during sex is now called "breath play". In any other situation choking someone would be considered an act of violence and possibly attempted murder, but if we're naked in bed it's suddenly okay..

I'm seriously scared for the younger generation of women. We're literally teaching them it's okay to be abused, and the worst part is it will be blamed on them for not putting boundaries and saying no, not on the actual abusers.

[–][deleted] 63 points64 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Race play, Breath play, what's next? Life play?

[–]GoddessIxtabFDS Newbie 53 points54 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, maybe breath play should be called life play, because of course if it does goes wrong, you're dead. So yeah, you're not wrong.

[–]MuffcakelordFDS Disciple 83 points84 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It makes sense to enjoy the enjoyment of your partner.

It's just that those partners enjoy the expressions of pain in their partners, making one of them into a masochist whether they want to or not, or even realize it.

Misogyny manifested in porn and makes the circle of misogyny go even stronger for each day

[–]cakepancakepancakeFDS Newbie 73 points74 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I can't even tell you about all the countless stories I've read that are about a woman who is distressed and crying, and a pornsick male who got turned on by that 🤮

Just another reason to never cry in front of a man...

[–]Charming-Bee-2337 30 points31 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yup, they can screak about consent all day long but its a fact that these men are getting turned on by women being in pain and now when they see a woman in pain not by their consent it still turns them on.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is so messed up. Omg.

[–]imnotfitforexistenceThrowaway Account 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wait, what???

I've found out about a lot of weird, messed up things since I joined FDS, and honestly, sometimes I can't believe how much more disgusting men can be.

[–]Suspicious-Leg-1407FDS Apprentice 67 points68 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Strangled, not choked.

Strangulation is a criminal activity.

[–]naps-seductivelyFDS Newbie 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This distinction is so important, thank you.

[–]dingdingdingdongbingFDS Newbie 18 points19 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

the amount of guys who think choking is an automatic is so fucked up

[–]lucearioPickmeisha™️[S] 21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

True. I went on a few dates a while ago with a guy who seemed nice but on our first kiss, his hand slipped around my throat. We were outside, it was the middle of the day and it was supposed to be romantic and a little awkward because it was our first kiss but instead I was struck with the fear of a man gripping my throat and he just expected that I would enjoy and expect it. I gave him a piece of my mind and left immediately.

[–]dingdingdingdongbingFDS Newbie 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What the actual fuck? Hmm, how can I make our first kiss romantic? Maybe I'll choke her here at the park in broad daylight.

I'm glad you told him off. Hopefully he won't be making other women uncomfortable with that.

[–]IndividualRoutine661FDS Newbie 168 points169 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

I called out a woman’s magazine recently for posting an article suggesting women try some BDSM.

A scrote soon came along to mansplain to me how I shouldn’t kink shame women 😳

Next time I’m going straight in with an explanation of what BDSM actually IS

Getting punched, slapped, choked, spat on, hair pulled, called names...and that’s just the lighter side

[–]SunnyfuckingSuccFDS Newbie 133 points134 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men LOOOOOVE kinks and bdsm until you suggest he should get tied up or choked. Then it's depraved, disrespectful and emasculating. Almost like men use BDSM as a socially acceptable way to beat women!

[–]IgetUsernameScrapsFDS Newbie 55 points56 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

An ex surprised me with the whole slapping/choking thing and I told him it was an absolute no go. After we broke up he told a mutual friend I was too vanilla and boring in bed. But when I tried to be “rough” with him (he said he liked it rough!) he said he didn’t want me to do any of that. So then why am I the boring one? 😂

[–]MuffcakelordFDS Disciple 56 points57 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

BDSM was about something entirely deeper but people have been using it as a sole reason and excuse to do just this so, is BDSM really what it used to be? Or can we safely say that today, because of idiot scrotes inplementing it in their own way, is just a petty excuse for misogynistic violence?

I feel so bad for the BDSM-communities that probably just fight the war for vocal and visible consent and the likes. The culture is ruined

[–]Charming-Bee-2337 44 points45 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

BDSM was always men getting off on women being in pain.

[–]IndividualRoutine661FDS Newbie 33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a friend who is a long term part of the BDSM community - he is pretty concerned about amateurs and tourists in his world. And doesn’t hold with eg rough sex defence. Maybe it’s ok left to professionals, but making it part of mainstream is hurting women.

[–]eveloeFDS Apprentice 106 points107 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Because it benefits men.

[–]GIfuckingJaneFDS STRATEGY COACH 116 points117 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

It doesn't actually benefit men, it turns men into pornified zombies who are incapable of intimacy... It benefits the porn industry (cash money). They don't give a damn about these men. They wanna catch boys at 9-10 y/o and indoctrinate them into lifelong porn consumers. These addicted male porn zombies then grow up to fight tooth and nail to keep increasingly violent streams coming to their rotting brains. Who would want to live like that?

[–]MrsJohnMarston__FDS Newbie 27 points28 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree with that. It’s easy cash for a small number of rich men who invest in porn like the Murdochs.

It gives the male viewers a false impression of domination and authority while occluding the real financial benefactors.

[–]Charming-Bee-2337 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well it makes them horny and gives them power over women which they desperately want so bad so they dont see a problem with it.

[–]nothing998FDS Newbie 57 points58 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Men do benefit, they want this. They don't care. Most are adults now and know the evils of porn. They know, and they don't care.

[–]naps-seductivelyFDS Newbie 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It benefits their depravity, which they love to indulge in. Now they have free license to without social and legal consequence.

[–]spinsterchachkiesFDS Disciple 52 points53 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Combine that with casual sex being the norm, porn addicted men, age gap relationships, and pedophilia being more acceptable, and you have a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode. Imagine girls doing casual sex not knowing anything about a guy, and he straight up kills her and gets away with it because it was “consensual”, the BDSM defense. That’s my worst nightmare and what I am afraid of happening. I’m terrified for these girls.

[–]euridicee 29 points30 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

I deleted the app. It was sick and filled with pedopornographic material, pick mes and incels.

[–]Nice_Pass2393FDS Newbie 20 points21 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I never downloaded it because whenever I see tik tok videos on other platforms they show teenagers in revealing outfits. And I know videos typically drain my phone battery. Plus the videos are always being shared by fuckboys on snap which left a bad taste in my mouth

[–]imnotfitforexistenceThrowaway Account 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I can't get rid of that kwai ad that ALWAYS has a teenager in revealing clothes dancing in front of the camera that's always filming her from a low angle.

I feel disgusted. I've selected the option to not see this ad again but Google don't respect me, so now I watch YouTube on the adblock browser.

[–]Glittering_Hotel8137 3 points4 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Wait, what do you mean by pedopornographic material? Holy shit

[–]euridicee 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I use the term rather loosely but all the minors on there barely clothed filming ass shots and such

[–]shmarharFDS Newbie 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have a lot of really funny and informative videos on my feed, if you know a couple good people to follow and start liking videos your 'for you' page will adjust. I've never seen any videos like that on mine, unless it's someone I follow making fun of one of the pickmes or incels lol

[–]companyofwolvesFDS Newbie 33 points34 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The majority of girls saying this stuff are just so young. They have very little dating experience. They have even less real world adult life experience. They are absolutely being groomed by outside forces (those forces are men, particularly older and more worldly men) because they have no experience to compare against.

Keep in mind that it is time honored teenage tradition to do and say shocking things. Scrotes know this because they too were once teenagers; it’s very easy to get a teen to talk about BDSM and sexual violence because it seems edgy and like something that will make their parents “mad”.

They don’t truly understand the way this stuff can cause permanent, lifelong harm, though I do think the majority will grow out of it eventually after enough poor treatment by the men and boys they deep down wish would treat them as equals and with kindness and respect. But a few bad, lame boyfriends at their age haven’t been enough yet to open their eyes.

[–]inlovewithaloserFDS Newbie 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The way I see it, we all vote with our money and clicks.

Men choosing to watch, pay for, and request porn and sex related content just shows me where their primary interests are. They are voting for women’s degradation every time.

[–]little_sparrow152FDS Newbie 23 points24 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I actually had a conversation about this with a (former) friend who is a self-titled "cool girl". I said that I don't get it and think it's super harmful. Friend was like "oh but romantic stuff is so boring, you're such a prude". Proceed to say that she'd love degradation from a boyfriend even out of bed, saying it would make her feel "safe and loved". We were in high school.

Same girl once said she'd prefer a dude texting her in the morning "what's up, stupid/bitch/bimbo" over a cute pet name or asking how she's feeling, "because it's more carefree". A friend of hers apperently groped her once when she was drunk and she apologized it to me, saying "well it's okay, It's not like he hurt me."

Another former friend had a 20 year old boyfriend at 15 and said it was okay because he had a "lolita complex", aka was a self-admitted pedo. She was actually super convinced she was more mature than everybody else because of that. It's total brainwashing. And it's getting so common.

[–]womandatory 23 points24 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The only way to overcome pornsickness is to keep calling out the pitiful losers who use it. It is pointless arguing why porn is unethical, because they don’t care, or can’t think that deeply. Call them out, do it loudly, don’t argue or get upset, otherwise you play into the ‘insecure/jealous’ nonsense they throw around.

I’m not insecure or jealous at all.

“If you can only get off jerking to photoshopped Insta girls who wouldn’t spit on you if you were on fire Kyle, you’re the one with the problem, not me.”

“I thought only cucks got off watching another guy have sex with a woman. So, you’re a cuckold are you, Sean?”

“Found the guy no woman wants to date.”

Shame them. Make it short, sharp and painfully accurate. Don’t engage when they try to argue or say “all men watch porn”, unless you want to throw back at them “All men watch porn, but not all men assault women? That seems like a stretch, David. Time to pick a side. Are you like all men or are you capable of empathic and independent thought?”

Arguing with men like this makes them think you care. We don’t care about pornsick losers, because they’re terrible in bed. Utterly, completely, wastefully awful. If you encounter one, slap him down with a line and walk away. If he tries to neg or argue with you, just laugh (but make sure you’re in a safe place - Men fear women will laugh at them. Women fear men will kill them).

[–]AuroraDullikThrowaway Account 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I have no hope for younger generations

[–]QueenCrownnFDS Newbie 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This! I would really like to know too. I've been asking some friends that claims they like being choked and they can't give me an answer yet.

[–]Altowhovian93FDS Newbie 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I’m about ready to say teens do not need to be on social media, especially Snapchat and tik tok. Pictures are forever on the internet and they do it under stand the future ramifications of what they post!

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