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[–]minty-coralFDS Newbie612 points613 points614 points 3 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
Not only do we not hate men the same way they hate us, but we also hate them for legitimate reasons. They hate us because they cannot get what they feel entitled to, but are actually not entitled to. We hate men for hating us. Men simply hate us.
[–]aloner666Throwaway Account296 points297 points298 points 3 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Exactly. Women don't even truly hate men, they hate male violence so that's why women distance themselves from men to avoid abuse, threats, etc. We don't hate men who are non violent and respect us. But misogynistic men (majority of men are misogynistic unfortunately) hate all women - even Pickmeishas who respect and worship men, random women who never hurt them etc..
Edit: (fixed "misogynistic")
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I thought this same thing when everyone was talking about "black supremacy."
Guess what, under a "black supremacist" state, white people would have the same opportunities they have under white supremacy, just without the unearned privileges. Because black people dont hate white people the way they hate us. We never wanted to dominate them, we've only EVER asked for equality.
[–]sterne_arctiqueFDS Newbie44 points45 points46 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Predatory men see women as sex. When we distance ourselves, they see it as we steal sex from them. And they think it’s unfair.
[–]Tell-Me-WhyyFDS Newbie113 points114 points115 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! The key reason why I dislike men is because most men treat women badly, and they're morally worse than women (ie porn). Like we have valid reasons, backed up by things we see and have experienced. Men cannot say the same. As you said they just hate us, and put us in certain roles and objectify us. I don't hate men, I hate the way that most men behave and think.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie83 points84 points85 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Usually when you ask them for reasons they will send you copied texts from MGTOW's pages about divorce. And the dudes that send it are usually too young to even experience marriage, let's not mention divorce lol
Edit: Oh, I forgot about false rape accusations, which are very rare, but somehow enough of a reason for these dudes to hate us.
[–]BovvsetteFDS Disciple72 points73 points74 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Right, their reasons for hating women usually involve hating being held accountable for their own actions or being expected to act fairly.
Such as:
Finding it unfair to feed and support their own kids and pay alimony.
In the same breath complaining about losing child custody battles despite not actually showing any interest in childrearing, child support and seeing looking after their own kids as ”babysitting”.
Women ”nagging”, despite men not doing their part in the first place and telling women to be the chore managers themselves, having to constantly ASK men to move their ass and ”help out” with what's supposed to be their responsibility.
Women having or continuing their fight for equal rights.
Being expected to perform their role of a provider in a patriarchal society when they expect a woman to perform the roles of cook, maid, escort, childbearer and childrearer. Usually while she's having a day job herself! And a lot of the times expecting her to pay for her own slavery!
Women having choices and rejecting offers they don't like.
Women being treated as people, nicely.
Etc.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is so on point! Couldn't say it better!
[–]SpaceGoat88FDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Exactly. We still call them "men" and "people" while they literally call us "holes". It's disgusting.
[–]FulloftheDickensFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I would rather be celibate than be a man's holes. Wanna see grown men cry, take away their "rights" to pussy or other holes they wanna stick it in.
[–]CassieGreen85FDS Apprentice258 points259 points260 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Holy fuck, this is a mood for the ages. Love it but at the same time I hate that this is the reality of the world we live in.
[–]lalalaicanthearyou99FDS Newbie102 points103 points104 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Wow this is so spot on. It reminds me of how reddit thinks that FDS is a subreddit devoted to like... trying to catch men and steal their money. When in reality it’s a support group where we help each other stay away from men 😂 Block, delete, dump, never again speak to LVM who treat you like shit.
You don’t see women on here talking about turning men into household slaves, sex slaves, or punching bags in the bedroom. Unfortunately this is how my ex showed his hatred for women.
[–]LeyMioFDS Newbie41 points42 points43 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The general Reddit community has a women-hating hive mind. Literally anything against women is encouraged and promoted. The toxic crowd consists of low value males who are the cause of all the worst issues in the society.
[–]meecy166FDS Apprentice205 points206 points207 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cause we are not sociopaths
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie199 points200 points201 points 3 years ago* (8 children) | Copy Link
Was raised by a Mormon man who wanked to porn. Can confirm. Men who hate women take their resentment for their mothers out on women and get gleeful about getting to act out abuse on their daughters and view women as sex objects and maids and objects. They are prideful about the immunity in which they can rape women and sexually abuse girls. And get violent when challenged. Like a sociopathic child in a man’s body. Disgusting.
[–]dahmerloveszombiesFDS Newbie23 points24 points25 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Utah, land of Mormons, has the highest porn use per capita in the country.
[–]daisy_0720FDS Disciple83 points84 points85 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
"A sociopathic child in a man's body."
This is probably the most accurate thing I've ever read.
[–]getrippeddiemirinFDS Newbie62 points63 points64 points 3 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
It’s not even a sociopathic child on a mans body, it’s just men. It is their nature. Full stop
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie70 points71 points72 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And they have the emotional immaturity of children and the sadism of sociopaths.
I agree, but it’s so disgusting. I don’t know how else to describe what I’ve witnessed from them. Being sinister and evil and then having the audacity to get mad when you call them perverts or rapists? Like they’re pissed you’re challenging their omniscient narrative in their head, their “I’m a good human being” even while they abuse women.
God I’m repulsed by them. Evil creatures that society still expects we worship.
[–]getrippeddiemirinFDS Newbie35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Sis I'm with you 110%. I think my biggest regret is that it took me to 27 to stop believing the lies they told about themselves and their nature.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie40 points41 points42 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I like how everytime when women bring equality during a conversation most men keep on repeating the same mantra about sex differences, but when you point out that their sex is responsible for around 90% of violence and crimes around the world they will start blabbering about differences not being so serious (out of nowhere the difference stops being important for them), that women can be violent too and other symmetrist bullcrap. Their narrative changes depending on what's the most advantageous for them at the time.
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Same -- 33 years here, but the wool has been pulled from my eyes.
[–]practicalpokemonFDS Newbie120 points121 points122 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Women hate men for what men do to women. Men hate women for what women won't do for men.
They're both trying to solve the perceived cause of their hatred. These women try to get away from men so that they can't be affected by their actions anymore.
Men harass and abuse women to try and get what they feel they are unfairly denied.
[–]ms_monquisFDS Disciple10 points11 points12 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Spot on.
[–]Cosmictears83FDS Newbie111 points112 points113 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Every reason I dislike average men and avoid them is based on pure factual experiences. Multiple irrefutable experiences. Everything from sexual assault, to abusive marriage, to dealing with being a woman in the military. What's my retaliation? Is it violence? No. Is it legislation that takes away their rights? No. I simply don't give them sex or attention anymore. I stick to venting my experiences in a women's sub and learning how to avoid the worst of them for my safety. According to reddit men thats on par with genocide and destruction of their gender and they shed endless tears about my unfair 'hate group'.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie38 points39 points40 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They treat the lack of sex from women as If it was abuse. They are so entitled that it makes me feel sick.
[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I really don't get the comparison. They either can't read or have very little reading comprehension if they can read.
[–]ErikaNaumannFDS Newbie54 points55 points56 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. Just compare r/mgtow2 and r/wgtow.
Mgtow has so many posts hating on women, talking about treating us like cum dumpsters, calling us names, harassing women on twitter and on OLD.
Wgtow is about how to be happy when single, examples of extraordinary women (scientists, writers, business women), social issues that concern women, and hobbies.
The difference is stark.
[–]WkndwhorechataFDS Newbie79 points80 points81 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
8 words in and I knew exactly where this was going. Stone cold truth.
[–]lvoncreekFDS Newbie143 points144 points145 points 3 years ago* (10 children) | Copy Link
Women hate men because of what we have been through thanks to them. All the pain, the humiliation, the belittling, objectifying, the way they treat us based on our looks and how fuckable we are because that is what we are for them. Pussies, asses and later incubators. We hate them because they caused all the wars, they rape, assault, murder women (and other men). We hate how we are seen as the irrational, useless and weak gender by men and that we are only good for being their submissive little personal maids and pornstars. They have been causing nothing but pain since humanity exists for no valid reason. Also, deep down even the most pickme women in the world know that most men would rape women immediately if they knew 100% that it will not have legal consequences.
Meanwhile
Men hate women because bruhuhu wiminnz dont give me pussyyy to fuck bruhuhuuu mummyy whyy dont they give me pussy bruhuhu
[–]FaginRagetteFDS Newbie71 points72 points73 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Lmao and then there's women like my grandmother who turn on us "modern women" just because their sons can't get a "nice girl to settle down with" (read: be a slave throughout sickness and heath forever and ever til the end). Like "why won't you young girls give them pussy, huh ? They've been through literal trauma ? Don't you think they deserve a nice hot meal to come home to, a clean home, and sex on tap ? You women and your high standards. You can't have it all, you know? Why don't you just grab the first guy who gives you attention like I did ? "
Hahahaa
[–]lvoncreekFDS Newbie65 points66 points67 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Didnt you know? Moden women are not women anymore because they have opinions and ambitions but most importantly they refuse to be slaves to the first low value dumbass who walks in their direction.
Also I love how in this aspect its always about what men need. He needs food, clean house, loving wife, sex anytime, etc. No one ever talks about what the woman might need in a marriage. It just doesnt matter.
[–]HaveNoIdeaWhatToPickFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh God the "you are not a real woman" gaslighting is ridiculous. The amount of times I've heard it. I always just laugh and walk away. It makes them even more mad knowing they can't easily manipulate you.
[–]Newwavesupport3657FDS Newbie79 points80 points81 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
And if you talk about any of the things you just listed “wow there’s sexism against men!” 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I’ve said I’m terrified of men because my father was so abusive and have actually had men get MAD at me and tell me it is SEXIST that I’m scared and it’s my responsibility to heal and NOT be scared. Fucking narcissists. No empathy or conscience
[–]lvoncreekFDS Newbie60 points61 points62 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
NoT All MeN
I NeVeR RaPe WoMeN I TrEaT ThEm As HuMaNs WhErE Is My GoLd MeDaL
[–]DJSparksalotPickmeisha™️59 points60 points61 points 3 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
"i HaVe A wIfE aNd DaUgHtEr"
(Translation: I must see women as people because some are related to me. )
[–]dahmerloveszombiesFDS Newbie21 points22 points23 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
men’s humanity has never been up for debate, meanwhile. we don’t see them as people or not based on our relationships to them.
[–]shmarharFDS Newbie24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
A caveat to the statement "causing nothing but pain since humanity exists"--it is a patriarchal myth that humans have always had males as rulers and females as the subjugated. There is quite a lot of anthropological evidence which shows that we were originally "matriarchal," or rather, followed a "partnership" social model as opposed to a "dominator" social model. The Minoan society on the island of Crete up to (edited; too many tabs open in my brain) 3200 years ago was one of the last surviving outposts of this egalitarian, peaceful, nature-loving version of humanity. "The Chalice and the Blade" by Riane Eisler lays this out in great detail. I highly recommend it!
[–]lvoncreekFDS Newbie9 points10 points11 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thank you!
[–]kayleeinthecityFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
yeap, when the matriarch/goddess ruled ancient civilizations , there were no accounts of war.
[–]kycakePickmeisha™️71 points72 points73 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
this is so true. another thing is we hate males for very valid reasons but they hate women because we don’t want to dedicate our lives to being their slaves.
[–]cancerkidetteFDS Newbie51 points52 points53 points 3 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
There are unfortunately almost no spaces for women, especially online.
[–]lvoncreekFDS Newbie35 points36 points37 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No because manchilds will appear everywhere
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[–]chateauduchatFDS Newbie70 points71 points72 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is painfully true.
[–]dalia-chanFDS Newbie48 points49 points50 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If men think that women hate men, with this current ocean of pickmees defending men’s right with such a passion then there’s truly something wrong with them.
You can’t point a single bad thing about man without being bombarded with the “not all men!” From thousand of women, that will tell you, you’re as bad as a rapist for thinking that most men are fucked up.
A man just have to respect a woman enough for refusing to rape her and he will be called a simp, while most women are the biggest simps of this planet, except that they’re simping for 2 secondes of recognition instead of sex.
[–]YveisGreyFDS Newbie22 points23 points24 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not giving men your time, attention, affection etc... is considered oppression to them 🙄🙄🙄
[–]painmakesyoustrongerFDS Apprentice19 points20 points21 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They’re 👏🏻 mad 👏🏻 because 👏🏻 they 👏🏻 were 👏🏻 benefitting 👏🏻 from 👏🏻 the 👏🏻 system 👏🏻 we’re 👏🏻 destroying 👏🏻
[–]Few_DirectionFDS Newbie32 points33 points34 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn, seriously. But yet they can hate us in relative peace in their actual hate subs (whilst members of their groups have committed literal acts of violence against women in real life). We just want to get away from that. They try and try and try to deny our experience and try to fill it with their distorted and emotionally-fueled ones. We live with this crap. The other day I’m minding my own business and a guy honks at me twice at a STOPLIGHT, rolls down his window, basically waving and spewing some crap for my attention. I looked straight ahead and felt paralyzed. I’d be honked and whistled at by older men when walking to school (I’m 21 now but imagine this is when I was 14 when we supposedly already lived in an “equal” society). And much, much worse has happened to women/girls who don’t live in generally “safe” areas or in a family environment that isn’t abusive. So fuck outta here. We’re here to express our disdain because we’re done putting up with the BS. We’re trying to raise up a new generation of girls AND boys that know how to respect each other, equally. If that bothers you, then you deserve to get left behind.
[–]talldrankofH2OFDS Newbie47 points48 points49 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We hate them as a reaction to how they treat us, they hate us as soon as we don’t get their dick hard
[–]ms_monquisFDS Disciple15 points16 points17 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn. I never thought about that.
When women hate men, they want to be away from them.
When men hate women, they want to destroy them.
That’s a goddamned arrow to the heart.
[–][deleted] 12 points13 points14 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I’ve said it once, I’ll say it again and I’ll continue to say it for as long as I can: they wouldn’t get away with half the crap they do to women if they weren’t bigger than us.
[–]IThinkMyCatIsEvil24 points25 points26 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow, this is mind blowing. I never thought of it that way.
[–]0kfornowFDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So true.
Who designed that software of theirs anyway? Its so broken.
[–]guntcity2Throwaway Account7 points8 points9 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ugh I’m reading Why Does He Do That rn and the entitlement and dehumanization!!! This is so spot on.
[–]alife404Throwaway Account8 points9 points10 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly! When we want to distance ourselves from those kind of men they always mention sex robots like that's going to hurt us.
[–]LeyMioFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In short, women would only hate men when men are hateful garbage. Men hate women because they are hateful garbage themselves.
[–]iggystarlustFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I just found this sub and wow the comments are what I say and think on a daily basis. I've found my home!!!
[–]GeraBabaFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I feel the same way! FDS is a wonderful space where we can finally talk about the full extent of sexist power dynamics in our society without facing violence, but women sisterhood.
[–]iggystarlustFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes!!! I have been reading the handbook and I am so excited!
[–]fulltwistinglayoutFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And this is why it enrages me when I or one of my friends catches a three day ban from facebook for saying "i hate men" or "men are trash."
[–]tckyoghculFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And this is why they get so mad when we say stuff like “I hate men” “all men are trash” etc. They just dont understand that our hate is not the same as theirs. Their hate is violent and puts us in danger, while our hate is based on horrible experiences they put us through.
[–]roselynn-jonesFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
As I was scrolling through reddit right above this very post was a Men’s Rights reddit post where they were pointing out women openly talking about hot men vs ugly men, stating that an ugly man hitting on them will make them more likely to call out sexual harassment.
They weren’t even stopping to think about how, even in that specific scenario, THEY ARE NOT ENTITLED TO WOMEN NO MATTER HOW THEY LOOK.
[–]Hipster-AuroraFDS Newbie1 point2 points3 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This reminds me of a conversation with a male relative I had once. He was saying feminazis wanted to kill men or something. I pointed out that men who hated women were already murdering women, and feminists who hate men don't kill them, they just distance themselves. "But they could some day!" "But they're not." "But they could some day!"
They want to believe what they want to believe.
[–]MilitantPERFFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points 3 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This post AND all the comments on here so far are purely SPOT ON. I couldn't have said all of that better myself!
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