I'd like to know what do people think about sexual kinks involving misogynistic behaviors, that I suspect many men are struggling with. I'm gonna give myself as an example: m(21) socially awkward and unlucky with women. I've never actually harassed or hurt a woman in my life. But I have dark fantasies involving violence, non consensual sex and humiliation towards women; eventhough I tend to have a lot of respect for women in my daily life. So how does one cope with these dark fantasies, while still trying to be a better human being and getting enlightened towards modern gender issues? How would anyone be able to open up about these fantasies with others, especially with women? How could such fantasies impact one's life? I must of course specify that real violence and real harassment are absolutely out of the subject, and that acting upon such dark fantasies against a non consenting person is 100% wrong. Like I said, I think this might be a problem that many men, and especially "male feminist" and "male allies" might find themselves trapped in. Internalized misogyny is a very big problem, and I think this might be one of it's most vicious way because despite knowing it's wrong, these fantasies have a lot of power over me. I would like to know what does women have to say about this? I Would also like to have the opinion of people who are also struggling with these dark fantasies, but don't forget to use a throwaway, lol.
[–]RussianAssholeFDS Disciple[🍰] 16 points17 points18 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Men really do want to hurt us. Meanwhile a woman’s fantasies are getting married to an amazing man and having children with him.
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Once you realize how very different our perceptions of reality are you can never unknow or unsee it. They hate us, and watching us suffer brings them joy, simple as. And notice how other men fall all over themselves to defend the most depraved bullshit possible.
[–]NovemberSaline7 points8 points9 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Later on in the comments he literally implies that he has fantasies of straight up murdering women wtf
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah it’s ridiculous and so is everybody defending this bullshit
[–]chosenemperor50 points1 point2 points (12 children) | Copy Link
Like 50 shades of grey shit?
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 10 points11 points12 points (11 children) | Copy Link
When someone says “nonconsensual” what do you hear?
[–]chosenemperor54 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh I'm sorry I didn't see that in the question. Then in answer to those who are trying to justify forcing yourself on someone else....I say fuck you, how would you like it if someone tied you down and forced a 12 inch spiked dildo up your ass?
[–]tequilathehun0 points1 point2 points (9 children) | Copy Link
Having nonconsensual fantasies does not, in any way, mean he actually wants to sexually assault someone
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 5 points6 points7 points (7 children) | Copy Link
And how does that look different from an actual rapist?
[–]Nobodyinc1-4 points-3 points-2 points (6 children) | Copy Link
Because one actually acts on it and one doesn’t? If anything it really shows you how dangerous mental health can be and why it needs more focus since it could be the difference between the two. I mean dear god imagine if we took this same standard too murder half the country would be in jail for wanting to murder trump.
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 6 points7 points8 points (5 children) | Copy Link
There’s a difference between passively fantasizing about something and actively fantasizing. Vaguely wanting trump destroyed is not the same as acting out Fantasies of you killing him.
If he can’t find sexual pleasure unless he’s inflciting pain on somebody else how is that suddenly going to not be an issue with the first unsuspecting girl who is unlucky enough to have sex with him?
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[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 13 points14 points15 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Being a rapist and needing mental help is not mutually exclusive. I mean most men who eventually act on it start out with compulsive ideations like this.
[–]Nobodyinc1-1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
The issue is more about framing. If we tell people having those thoughts makes them a rapist then they will pretend they don’t have them. If we tell them having those thoughts means they need help there is a chance they get help.
[–]TheOGJammiesRuthless Strategist[S] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They’re not encouraging him to get help in the comments, is my point. They’re trying to normalize it so this guy basically feels confident going to inflict that on somebody.
[–]Nobodyinc1-2 points-1 points0 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Right and therefore to stop then from potentially becoming one they need to be encouraged to get help. The issue is as humans we don’t want to believe we are the bad guy and if help doesn’t come and he can’t come to terms with it productively the outcome could quite likely be he decided he isn’t wrong and it’s okay. But till he actually commits a crime be can not be guilty of it.
[–]Cocksmasher69FDS Disciple3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Then why have those fantasies lmao