Sadly, that's not the case. Not even remotely! Everyone and their mother thinks we're entitled princesses for wanting a man who would actually, you know, respect and cherish us.
Hey, guess what? They don’t have to date us if they think we too much.
But if more than 3% or so of the female population do FDS, there will be a tipping point and it will force men to either improve or remove themselves from the gene pool.
That's what I keep telling the ones I come across bitching about this sub. They're not being forced to date any women from FDS so why in fuck do they care so much about what the women here think or even want?
we're changing norms. they're threatened they can't treat women like delivery services that take themselves out, and/or burden us with more responsibility than we've already taken on to equalize men's failure.
who the fuck takes feedback, complaints or whatever from LOSERS seriously?
Tbh I remember seeing Redpill, MGTOW, and other “manosphere” subs on reddit and other places online since I was as young as like 14. A lot of these reddit dudes didn’t seem to have any issue with those subs existing, but now suddenly it’s a problem when women fight back and say that maybe we shouldn’t be in relationships with abusive assholes.
That and if enough pickmeishas wake the hell up these losers will have to actually level themselves up to get a date.
It’ll boost the economy when dusties start having to get jobs and take women on proper dates. I guess the pornographers, video game makers and junk food producers won’t like it though.
I assumed by the average woman he just meant the quantity of women, like trying to say there’s not enough incredible men to go around for just every woman out there
Really can’t see how sub-standard men equate a women’s appearances with a certain set of standards. That’s like saying shitty beat-up cars can only hope to expect lackluster mechanics & service.
I would be absolutely overjoyed to find a man who brings to the table what I do in terms of personality, career, salary, wealth, fitness, looks, etc. I'm not looking for "the perfect man," but I certainly ain't settling for some yahoo that sits around in his underwear all day in my house.
I had that on my tinder profile once that I wanted the male version of me by which I meant takes care of themselves, good looking, funny, decent job, works out, respectful and ambitious. If that’s how I am why is that asking too much in a partner?
2 comments on the post say FDS provides material to reflect on themselves as men.
I’ve wondered before how anyone with basic reading comprehension believes FDS is incel or MGTOW or a bunch of whatever sad stereotypes about single women.
And Christ on a Cracker why all the cat hatred? My dude, that’s the “adult” version of girls have cooties.
Overall just more totally missing the point of FDS.
They all throw that cat thing around like its a bad thing or supposed to offend us. Um we like cats, many people do! LOL
We had pets growing up. I will have pets till the day I die man or no man! LOL. Pets help people live longer, reduce stress, etc and research backs it up.
I got my first own cat at 18 when I moved out, yes I got him because I was a bitter lonely 18 year old man hater... palease. He lived for 19 years.
They're saying THIS is your place, now lay. FDS isn't misguided in it's ethos, it's a revolutionary and empowering mindset, that women are worthy of being appreciated and lifted up.
Think about how naturally we are drawn to admire men when women have beared the brunt of abuse and neglect for years. We women deserve better than low-tier efforts, being emotional/physical punching bags, dealing with yet another man that is so stunted he thinks being emotionally detached is normal.
Besides that they want women, especially black women, to continue suffering beneath patriarchal advantages. Our anger collectively as women is validated. All we want is to be treated respectfully, to be treated with care and consideration. That's too much for them. That's a concept that's mind-boggling to conceive.
Point-blank they don't think women should be respected. Fuck em. Who cares what these fools think? Let's keep doing our thing, aroused to awareness, repelling what actively works against us.
Well apparently a lot of black men like to keep black women down and we're not about that. In fact I encourage black women to be more vocal about it, let yourselves be heard. Don't let these men bring you down, you deserve better treatment, I admire you for your courage and strength just keep pushing past the bullshit
FDS is the true progressive, inclusive, liberal movement for all women. We recognize structural patriarchy and global male supremacy.
Losers like the LVM, pickmeishas, liberal “feminists,” MRAs, sex industry trash, etc. are aligned with exploitative 1% crony capitalism, sexism, racism and the global plantation mentality. They don’t want women to organize and demand better treatment from the bottom up, starting with women’s social, dating and family life. That would fundamentally deprive them of cheap female labor on a global scale.
I love the commenter who's like "Misandry! They're literally asking for men to provide for them financially!!! Anyways... My boyfriend does provide for me financially"
Girl that's why you have the comfort and stress free lifestyle to sit at home on reddit fighting against your own sex that is trying to get better treatment. What a hypocrite.
Even if women in this subreddit ARE asking for too much and actually ARE looking for "the perfect man", so what? Why is that anyone else's business? Why does this matter to him? How exactly is this affecting his life?
These same dudes will snuggle up with their mommy and say "mom, you deserve the best" or years later, will tell their daughters "you deserve the best", but get mad when anyone who is not their mommy or daughter has the audacity to think she deserves the best. My dad has always told me I deserve the best, and I believe him! He hasn't been lying to me all of these years. Am I supposed to believe that my dad is a liar and a random bitch on reddit is telling the truth?
You make a very good point. I suspect men that think FDS women are "asking for too much" are just giving themselves a convenient excuse to stay mediocre.
Exactly, and it really makes no sense, considering how competitive men market themselves to be. Women are constantly talking about leveling up, improving, bettering themselves, wanting more (out of life, themselves, and other), learning more, evolving, changing for the better, nurturing, assisting, developing, birthing, creating. Honestly, on this forum, women haven't even expressed asking for enough. The things ladies list on this sub are basic and bare minimum really. But the audacity of someone else being offended by the requirements and expectations of another human! No one is asking HIM to be better. He can remain a bum for all I care. It doesnt affect me.
What's funny is that (most) men are ultra competitive in the job market and have no problem learning and bettering themselves for a more lucrative job opportunity. Imagine if a man walked into an interview and said "you're asking for too much" to the hiring manager. They wouldn't get the job.
It shouldn't be any different to treat relationships in the same manner. Men want women. And he is interviewing for the job role of future husband. Now most men don't want to have the title (and responsibility) of "husband" and so they don't interview well and say "you're asking for too much" as a convenient excuse not to be better.
Meanwhile, someone I know posted an "unpopular opinion" on how she felt porn addiction made men bad in bed, and her post was locked/blocked/banned within minutes.
because of that post and alot of us are quarantined in our houses, i hope more women see the sub, read up there and wake up if ever they are with men who treats them bad or doesnt love them at all.
Of course it's all about how we're all gold diggers for wanting men to pay but nobody brings up the fact that most men demand free sex on first date, sometimes violently and we're the ones who have to take that risk.
That one guy commenting on every comment supporting FDS whining about paying for dinner. I got so sick of seeing it I finally schooled him. He probably will still try to argue. 🙄
I don't even care if it's asking too much at this point. I know it's not, but I cannot even stand the thought of entertaining someone who seems LVM post-FDS.
[–]Pleasant-ComplaintFDS Newbie146 points147 points148 points (9 children) | Copy Link
"""Unpopular Opinion"""
Sadly, that's not the case. Not even remotely! Everyone and their mother thinks we're entitled princesses for wanting a man who would actually, you know, respect and cherish us.
[–]pinkyberriesFDS Disciple85 points86 points87 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This subreddit is just popular incel opinions.
[–]sholmes999FDS Newbie79 points80 points81 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Hey, guess what? They don’t have to date us if they think we too much.
But if more than 3% or so of the female population do FDS, there will be a tipping point and it will force men to either improve or remove themselves from the gene pool.
It’s already happening.
[–]LadyGrimesFDS Disciple49 points50 points51 points (4 children) | Copy Link
That's what I keep telling the ones I come across bitching about this sub. They're not being forced to date any women from FDS so why in fuck do they care so much about what the women here think or even want?
[–]plutunicFDS Disciple42 points43 points44 points (3 children) | Copy Link
we're changing norms. they're threatened they can't treat women like delivery services that take themselves out, and/or burden us with more responsibility than we've already taken on to equalize men's failure.
who the fuck takes feedback, complaints or whatever from LOSERS seriously?
[–]LadyGrimesFDS Disciple18 points19 points20 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Nobody but them, otherwise this sub would be removed for hurting their feelings.
[–][deleted] 11 points12 points13 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Tbh I remember seeing Redpill, MGTOW, and other “manosphere” subs on reddit and other places online since I was as young as like 14. A lot of these reddit dudes didn’t seem to have any issue with those subs existing, but now suddenly it’s a problem when women fight back and say that maybe we shouldn’t be in relationships with abusive assholes.
[–]sholmes999FDS Newbie8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That and if enough pickmeishas wake the hell up these losers will have to actually level themselves up to get a date.
It’ll boost the economy when dusties start having to get jobs and take women on proper dates. I guess the pornographers, video game makers and junk food producers won’t like it though.
[–]Sage_PlanterFDS Disciple20 points21 points22 points (0 children) | Copy Link
How dare we! /s
[–]pinkyberriesFDS Disciple105 points106 points107 points (5 children) | Copy Link
"For the average woman" he means looks.
If your look average then apparently you don't deserve the same respect as a good looking woman.
A woman can be average looking and be a HVW and have a successful career.
[–]ItsFreezenFDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This.
[–]GlamorKissFDS Newbie17 points18 points19 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I assumed by the average woman he just meant the quantity of women, like trying to say there’s not enough incredible men to go around for just every woman out there
[–]lival42FDS Newbie5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Really can’t see how sub-standard men equate a women’s appearances with a certain set of standards. That’s like saying shitty beat-up cars can only hope to expect lackluster mechanics & service.
[–]Sage_PlanterFDS Disciple76 points77 points78 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I would be absolutely overjoyed to find a man who brings to the table what I do in terms of personality, career, salary, wealth, fitness, looks, etc. I'm not looking for "the perfect man," but I certainly ain't settling for some yahoo that sits around in his underwear all day in my house.
[–]notroyaltyyetFDS Newbie35 points36 points37 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I had that on my tinder profile once that I wanted the male version of me by which I meant takes care of themselves, good looking, funny, decent job, works out, respectful and ambitious. If that’s how I am why is that asking too much in a partner?
[–]throwahweigh3521FDS Apprentice62 points63 points64 points (2 children) | Copy Link
2 comments on the post say FDS provides material to reflect on themselves as men.
I’ve wondered before how anyone with basic reading comprehension believes FDS is incel or MGTOW or a bunch of whatever sad stereotypes about single women.
And Christ on a Cracker why all the cat hatred? My dude, that’s the “adult” version of girls have cooties.
Overall just more totally missing the point of FDS.
[–]sholmes999FDS Newbie39 points40 points41 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ummmm, cats are awesome. It’s proven by science or whatever.
Anyway, a cat will purr, cuddle, and generally be cute. Can I say the same for a man? Nope...
[–]ny-ladyFDS Apprentice13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
They all throw that cat thing around like its a bad thing or supposed to offend us. Um we like cats, many people do! LOL
We had pets growing up. I will have pets till the day I die man or no man! LOL. Pets help people live longer, reduce stress, etc and research backs it up.
I got my first own cat at 18 when I moved out, yes I got him because I was a bitter lonely 18 year old man hater... palease. He lived for 19 years.
[–]Radtron3000FDS Disciple46 points47 points48 points (1 child) | Copy Link
They're saying THIS is your place, now lay. FDS isn't misguided in it's ethos, it's a revolutionary and empowering mindset, that women are worthy of being appreciated and lifted up.
[–]Radtron3000FDS Disciple29 points30 points31 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Think about how naturally we are drawn to admire men when women have beared the brunt of abuse and neglect for years. We women deserve better than low-tier efforts, being emotional/physical punching bags, dealing with yet another man that is so stunted he thinks being emotionally detached is normal.
Fuck that.
[–]Radtron3000FDS Disciple63 points64 points65 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Besides that they want women, especially black women, to continue suffering beneath patriarchal advantages. Our anger collectively as women is validated. All we want is to be treated respectfully, to be treated with care and consideration. That's too much for them. That's a concept that's mind-boggling to conceive.
Point-blank they don't think women should be respected. Fuck em. Who cares what these fools think? Let's keep doing our thing, aroused to awareness, repelling what actively works against us.
[–]sholmes999FDS Newbie50 points51 points52 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I’ve noticed anti-racism gets often framed around the rights of men of color, not women of color.
I’ve also noticed a strong presence of black women on FDS, which is pretty cool.
[–]Radtron3000FDS Disciple32 points33 points34 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Well apparently a lot of black men like to keep black women down and we're not about that. In fact I encourage black women to be more vocal about it, let yourselves be heard. Don't let these men bring you down, you deserve better treatment, I admire you for your courage and strength just keep pushing past the bullshit
[–]sholmes999FDS Newbie25 points26 points27 points (0 children) | Copy Link
FDS is the true progressive, inclusive, liberal movement for all women. We recognize structural patriarchy and global male supremacy.
Losers like the LVM, pickmeishas, liberal “feminists,” MRAs, sex industry trash, etc. are aligned with exploitative 1% crony capitalism, sexism, racism and the global plantation mentality. They don’t want women to organize and demand better treatment from the bottom up, starting with women’s social, dating and family life. That would fundamentally deprive them of cheap female labor on a global scale.
[–]umbralgardenFDS Newbie34 points35 points36 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I love the commenter who's like "Misandry! They're literally asking for men to provide for them financially!!! Anyways... My boyfriend does provide for me financially"
Girl that's why you have the comfort and stress free lifestyle to sit at home on reddit fighting against your own sex that is trying to get better treatment. What a hypocrite.
[–]MaisiebrFDS Newbie27 points28 points29 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh god, the comments with escorts and Ukrainian women bullshit. My head hurts.
[–]Radiant_SuccessFDS Newbie26 points27 points28 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Even if women in this subreddit ARE asking for too much and actually ARE looking for "the perfect man", so what? Why is that anyone else's business? Why does this matter to him? How exactly is this affecting his life?
These same dudes will snuggle up with their mommy and say "mom, you deserve the best" or years later, will tell their daughters "you deserve the best", but get mad when anyone who is not their mommy or daughter has the audacity to think she deserves the best. My dad has always told me I deserve the best, and I believe him! He hasn't been lying to me all of these years. Am I supposed to believe that my dad is a liar and a random bitch on reddit is telling the truth?
[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice24 points25 points26 points (3 children) | Copy Link
You make a very good point. I suspect men that think FDS women are "asking for too much" are just giving themselves a convenient excuse to stay mediocre.
[–]Radiant_SuccessFDS Newbie10 points11 points12 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Exactly, and it really makes no sense, considering how competitive men market themselves to be. Women are constantly talking about leveling up, improving, bettering themselves, wanting more (out of life, themselves, and other), learning more, evolving, changing for the better, nurturing, assisting, developing, birthing, creating. Honestly, on this forum, women haven't even expressed asking for enough. The things ladies list on this sub are basic and bare minimum really. But the audacity of someone else being offended by the requirements and expectations of another human! No one is asking HIM to be better. He can remain a bum for all I care. It doesnt affect me.
[–]seraphinelysionFDS Apprentice11 points12 points13 points (1 child) | Copy Link
What's funny is that (most) men are ultra competitive in the job market and have no problem learning and bettering themselves for a more lucrative job opportunity. Imagine if a man walked into an interview and said "you're asking for too much" to the hiring manager. They wouldn't get the job.
It shouldn't be any different to treat relationships in the same manner. Men want women. And he is interviewing for the job role of future husband. Now most men don't want to have the title (and responsibility) of "husband" and so they don't interview well and say "you're asking for too much" as a convenient excuse not to be better.
[–]Radiant_SuccessFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Well said.
[–]Radtron3000FDS Disciple37 points38 points39 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck what they think. They're too dumb to read anyhow.
[–]tita_FDS Newbie14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Women ARE superior!
[–]plutunicFDS Disciple14 points15 points16 points (0 children) | Copy Link
hmmm taking the opinions of men who have never found any woman to love, respect or care for seriously? nah imma pass.
[–]greatcathyFDS Newbie12 points13 points14 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That first comment though. V supportive. And it's by a guy.
[–]sadpourtoujoursFDS Disciple7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
“Wahh, they expect me to pay for things!”
—Pathetic ass Reddit males
[–]siberiansummerFDS Disciple5 points6 points7 points (1 child) | Copy Link
There are actually some men commenting saying they agree with us. Shocker
[–][deleted] 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Meanwhile, someone I know posted an "unpopular opinion" on how she felt porn addiction made men bad in bed, and her post was locked/blocked/banned within minutes.
[–]giteporFDS Newbie3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh thank god, we know there'd be something to worry about if the low level scrotes of reddit were happy with our behaviour 😂
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
i thanked him and wished him to be safe.
because of that post and alot of us are quarantined in our houses, i hope more women see the sub, read up there and wake up if ever they are with men who treats them bad or doesnt love them at all.
we should thank them for the traffic! lol
[–]9penguinFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Of course it's all about how we're all gold diggers for wanting men to pay but nobody brings up the fact that most men demand free sex on first date, sometimes violently and we're the ones who have to take that risk.
[–]timetofliptablesFDS Newbie2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
That one guy commenting on every comment supporting FDS whining about paying for dinner. I got so sick of seeing it I finally schooled him. He probably will still try to argue. 🙄
[–]FluffandRaincloudsFDS Disciple1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't even care if it's asking too much at this point. I know it's not, but I cannot even stand the thought of entertaining someone who seems LVM post-FDS.