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FSW got banned from r/trollxchromosome, though I feel like it is a little bit of my fault, they ban me before I can reply to all the comment

January 6, 2020
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Title FSW got banned from r/trollxchromosome, though I feel like it is a little bit of my fault, they ban me before I can reply to all the comment
Author KingMaegorTheCool
Upvotes 259
Comments 41
Date January 6, 2020 4:03 AM UTC (2 years ago)
Subreddit /r/FeminismStopsWhen
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/FeminismStopsWhen/fsw-got-banned-from-rtrollxchromosome-though-i.669100
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[–][deleted] 64 points65 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

How dare you hold women responsible for how they choose to dress. Sexist!

/s

[–]Lookadoggo1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

But...rape

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I don't think butt rape is mentioned.

[–]Lookadoggo1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a point

[–]SoundBruhEffect41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well I mean to be honest... You're not wrong.

[–]mendokusai9913 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Wants all the rights, but none of the accountability.

[–]empatheticapathetic34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Shouldn’t have opened with an apology. Women don’t have as much integrity in their words as men do. They’ll rate your argument more on how passionately you express it instead.

[–]NibblyPig1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Analogies don't seem to work either with women either. Can guarantee if there's a reply it's someone saying "How dare you say robbery and rape are the same" or "How dare you say being raped is like having something stolen from your house"

[–]Damocles9422 points23 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well you’re not wrong…

[–]heraclitus_ephesian27 points28 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

This is an argument I can't really get behind. It rests on four bad assumptions:

  1. Women who wear revealing clothing want to be raped: this obviously isn't true. Women who wear revealing clothing might be inviting sexual attention, but there is a huge difference between sexual attention and rape. This is a distinction that feminists have tried to erase, but we shouldn't let them.
  2. That there is a correlation between the clothes women wear and their likelihood of getting raped. This is the main point of analogy between wearing certain types of clothing and not locking your car: obviously your car is more likely to be stolen if you don't lock it, so if women don't want to be raped - the argument goes - they would not wear revealing clothes. But according to actual data, there is no such correlation [1], [2]. Rapists rape whoever they feel like raping.
  3. That men are mindless, brute beasts so lacking in self-control that they're driven to rape by the very sight a woman's body. This is silly and insulting: most men will never rape a woman under any circumstances, no matter how they're dressed. The few men who will rape a woman won't be deterred from doing so by modest clothing.
  4. That we want to excuse people for committing crimes because it was easy for them to do so. Sure, people should lock their cars, because if your car is not locked, it's likelier to get stolen. The person who stole the car should still be held accountable for their actions; do you want the law to dismiss a case of grand theft auto because you weren't cautious enough with your property?

Bear in mind that the vast majority of rapists have a prior relationship with their victim [3]. If a man sets out to rape a stranger, that is a pre-meditated act, and - if the clothing of his victim has any impact on his choice of girl - it's not reflected in the numbers. If you listen to interviews with various serial killers, they frequently choose their victims based on arbitrary criteria like hair color, height, personality, someone who reminds them of their mother, etc.

[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

This was really part of the argument in the original post, and I had change my mind about the clothing. Don’t get me wrong, rapist should be punish, and I’m not here to defend them, but there are just that kind of people out there in the world. I am not saying that people who are wearing skimpy cloth are asking to be rape, I’m just saying that these type of women should know that some men will have that mind set. Overall, I just want everyone to be more careful and cautious, because we are not living in a perfect world.

[–]heraclitus_ephesian9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In terms of being careful, I think you had a better point about getting drunk. Alcohol has way more to do with sexual assault than clothing does, and feminists aren't typically willing to admit that: A. women should be careful about getting drunk with people they don't know, or B. women are just as responsible as men are for the decisions they make while they are drunk.

[–]Spacegirl980 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

Well that really wasnt what I just read. You were clearly saying women are more likely to be raped when wearing skimpy clothing. Shame on you

[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I changed my mind after a while, this one is the one that started the argument, you can go check at the original post if you want.

[–]Spacegirl980 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Doesn't matter who started the argument. At least you can tell your logic was flawed.

[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

So what, it is not possible to change a part of my opinion mid way through the argument, but still holding on to your belief because that said opinion is but a part of it?

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not relevant to the sub, but I fully agree. If you put yourself in potentially dangerous situations and encounter said danger then I’m not gonna feel sorry for you. Girls who get “raped” at parties typically get wasted drunk, pass out, and are then molested by almost equally drunk men and/or women. At my Uni this happened a couple times and it prompted all of us to take this sexist, bullshit module on sexual assault that made it seem like all men were like rapist supervillains just waiting for their chance to rip off the button up and reveal their true costumes.

They claimed that if both parties are drunk and have sex then it was still the girl that was raped. Apparently feminism stops when you drink alcohol, because I even emailed them that their test was retarded, sexist, and misrepresented the issue on campus (as it was virtually non-existent and is based on an incident that occurred years before my freshman year).

[–]jinladen0403 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm just curious how the fuck they stay warm during the winter dressed that way. The thermals go on in October and stay on until March for me.

[–]seanisgeynt12 points13 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Actually no, they can dress however they like, but it is absolutely their responsibility if they get drunk. It isn't their fault for falling victim, but they increased the likelihood dramatically by dulling their senses and cognitive ability willingly

[–]riot_ball7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That's uhhhh

What he said

[–]seanisgeynt1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

He was including what they wear in it, when in reality the main factor isn't the clothing it's the altered state. I'm friends with a few women who have experienced this and can tell you clothing didn't affect anything at all, they were just intoxicated or on drugs

[–]slimeyslime1236 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

On one hand, that's absurd. You should be able to keep your doors unlocked, windows open, and have your skirt as short as possible. On the other hand though, you're right and some people just live in a fantasy world where bad people wont exist if we tell them to stop. You're not the bad guy if a bad thing happens to you, but nobody will feel sorry for you when you're freely increasing your chances of becoming a victim. That hurts to say, but I think it's true. We do not feel sorry for people who play with fire and get burnt.

Also, I think she was wrong in the first place. "I'm not dressing like a slut". Actually, you are. Let's define slut. A sexually promiscuous woman. Do such women have a certain stereotypical appearance? Yes they do. If one were to say "you're dressed like a priest", would you respond "you're just religious"? No. That wouldn't make sense because you look like a priest and she looks like a slut. End of story.

[–]PenguinMayhem0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I mean it isn’t wrong

[–]Ser-Palme0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're definitely in the wrong here and you're not at all using FSW in correct context.

[–]jimmy_eat_womb10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

definitely in the wrong about what?

[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry

[–]ClickableLinkBot0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

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[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Sorry, the headline is missing an s at the end

[–]SupremeGentleman920 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That bitch looks like she’d make a good pornstar tho

[–]mkjohnson11270 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I just got banned for r/feminism for making a comment that didn’t fit their narrative. They basically delete any comments their they don’t agree with.

Edit: Lost some karma because of these feminist bitches so if you can kindly bump my karma back up a bit, I would greatly appreciate it. 😁

[–]ChilledEfilist0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I've articulated that same argument in a different way in the past. That was brilliant pal!

[–]murderexplosionlord-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

i can understand the getting mad drunk part but blaming it on the clothes is unfair a women should have to cover everything to not get raped i mean men literally dont have to wear shirts

[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That is fair, I change my mind about that part after a few argument with the people on that site. My underlining message was that for everyone to be more careful, not just tell men not to rape.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Have you ever seen a topless tub of lard or muscular bron be the target of rape?

[–]murderexplosionlord0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

no and thats the problem if a man can go shirtless and not get raped then it should go the same for a woman showing cleavage. sorry i hope the stuff im saying doesnt come across as rude or femanazi shit

[–]Malicious84-2 points-1 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're wrong man. Let her wear whatever the fuck she wants to. I recently read a tweet from a girl saying "Guys, Boxers are not shorts you cannot wear them in public", to that a guy responded "don't tell us what to wear, teach girls not to stare". If I go with that logic, you are basically telling her that wearing something will get her raped. Sure it does increase the attention she gets from men but it depends on the man.

[–]KingMaegorTheCool[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, but I just want people to be more careful about this rape prevention. I am not saying that dressing yourself in revealing cloth mean that you are asking for it, I just said that there will always be some people who think like that. Overall, I just want people to be safe, they can dress anyway you want but what happen after that is what I actually care

[–]Vriwhulth-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not ban worthy, but also not a great analogy

[–]Ikeriro90-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Technically you said the truth, however, maybe you made a bad election of words

[–]kondenado-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

WTF!!! A woman should be able to dress as she wants without being afraid of being raped!!!!

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