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And it is also a wake up call for subreddits like r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, which is a space that actively combats misandry and anti-male strains of feminism.

August 4, 2021
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Crosspost "What happened to r/mgtow is a wake up call for r/mensrights" from /r/MensRights:

You can bow as much as you want to feminists and the whole woke crowd hoping to achieve « equality »

But for them you will always be incels, mysoginist or future rapists they need to silence or eliminate.

And the plateform your on, will one day or another treat you accordingly.


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Title And it is also a wake up call for subreddits like r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates, which is a space that actively combats misandry and anti-male strains of feminism.
Author 2717192619192
Upvotes 147
Comments 31
Date August 4, 2021 2:46 AM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]2717192619192left-wing male advocate[S,M] [score hidden] stickied comment (10 children) | Copy Link

Here’s a great comment from a user in that thread which explains why we may one day have to stand up for subs like ours:

“Most if not all of the posts about r/MensRights on AHS are crafted by one user in particular (archived post (and) (and) (and) as an example), and the frequency of their posts have increased substantially lately. I'm not sure why, but it seems as though this individual's only goal is to have this sub banned. It seems to be the only thing they care about, and they scour this sub each and every day for anything they consider to be "misogynistic" or "transphobic."

They've even started their own dedicated hate sub for this kinda thing. r\againstmensrights and r\Male_Fragility.”

We need to be ready to protest against Reddit or switch to other platforms if they quarantine/ban subreddits such as MensRights or even LeftWingMaleAdvocates. This is also why we strictly moderate against generalizations and misogyny — we DO believe in equality, and we aren’t like MGTOW.

[–]peanutbutterjams 41 points42 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Wonder if this has anything to do with the turtle. They obviously have pull with the admin or turtle's hateful comments would have been deleted.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 5 points6 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

As far as I know it is entirely unrelated.

[–]ellipticcurve5 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lots of people have lots of theories.

[–]ZeroAssassin72 3 points4 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

turtle?

[–]Jakeybaby125 32 points33 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

AwkwardTheTurtle. A well-known power mod who used the platform to spew their toxic ideological misandry on Reddit and banned people who spoke up about it

[–]ZeroAssassin72 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

ahhhh, k. Thanks for the context.

Also, what a fucktard he sounds like.

Cheers

[–]MizuNomuHito 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She, but yeah

[–]MapleSyrup612left-wing male advocate 31 points32 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I don’t like mgtow but yes, we need to be careful. Also, our mods need to be vigilant to prevent MGTOW users from ruining subs like this, though I don’t think that will be a problem as they have their own site

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

We do not tolerate bigotry here. So we will should be fine.

[–]hugemongus123 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Alot of the posts on ahs about mensright are like x says feminisme bad. This sub also calls misandry in feminisme, which is like huge chunk of feminism.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And the admins have never interfered in any subs saying so.

Edit: except now they have, although I still don't think that was ideologically motivated.

[–]BloomingBrains 11 points12 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

I really can't keep up with all the subs that are getting banned. Is there a list of manosphere subs somewhere and which have been banned?

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 8 points9 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

During their first couple ban marathons there were lists circulated around Reddit, mainly in feminist spaces.

Because the most popular and active feminist sub at the time (gender critical) was banned. Along with other favorites like PinkPillFeminism. And rumor was that FDS would be next.

The first couple lists only had a couple men's subs on it. But quite a few feminist and femcel subs were on it. Which caused a lot of outrage from feminists around Reddit.

I don't know what the "score" is but the dirty secret for feminists for a long time is that their subs have been on the chopping block a lot more than "manosphere" subs have been. Men's subs just get more publicity when they get axed because it fits into institutional social narratives about who the bad guys are.

[–]Deadlocked02 17 points18 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Because the most popular and active feminist sub at the time (gender critical) was banned. Along with other favorites like PinkPillFeminism. And rumor was that FDS would be next.

It’s interesting how feminist/womansphere subs are only banned or targeted when they’re accused of transphobia. They have carte blanche to say whatever they want about cis men. If the administration of this site operated with a modicum of fairness, even the likes of r/feminism would’ve been banned as well, considering how often they admit and try to justify their hatred of men. Just a recent example of post that would certainly make us an AHS target if the genders were reversed. It must be very comfortable to enjoy this level of protection and corporate/institutional power. I only wish men were granted such treatment as well.

[–]jpla86 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I've said this before: GenderCritical would still be up and running today if it wasn't for its transphobia. Hating men is allowed, hell even encouraged in many feminist spaces.

[–]ExcellentTraffic123 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The thing about GenderCritical, imo, is that their hatred of men is fundamental to their hatred of trans women. They see trans women as men in skirts, and they see men as dangerous.

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[–]MapleSyrup612left-wing male advocate 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I swear that post sounds like some great replacement theory propaganda

[–]throwra_coolname209 -2 points-1 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Devils advocating here just bc I made a post about it recently but wouldn't the longer lives of most men's subs show a societal bias towards men as so many of these people are claiming

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 17 points18 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Well false accusations of misogyny can get you in trouble whereas the very real existence of misandry won't get you in trouble.

Meaning we care more about misogyny than we do misandry.

They're usually banned for things like racism and transphobia.

And Reddit's institutional policy is that misogyny is bad and misandry is ok.

u/ForgetAboutTheLonely even has some documented examples of this in practice.

Men are afraid to ask for equality. Meanwhile women are encouraged to say things like kill all men and it's considered empowering and progressive. So long as "men" doesn't include trans men or gay men.

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Screenshot of an admin saying misandry is okay:

https://i.imgur.com/VeTS3YH.png

[–]throwra_coolname209 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fair enough, I just want people to be aware of the fact that people will bring up the "allowed" existence of predominantly-male hate subs as a way to justify not caring about men at all. Which is awful but it's gonna happen.

[–]ShakingMonkey 14 points15 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Certainly not.

r/mgtow got banned, and was watched by AHS because they were a bunch of mysoginists. I got banned because I said that maybe considering all women are sluts is a bit too extremistic.

If you guys want to be associated with those people, I highly doubt the sub is still left wing in anyway.

It is important to discuss the place of men in today's society and the issues that goes along with it, but being associated with a mysoginistic sub is counterproductive.

This is actually a wake up call to never ever let mysoginistic views get in our way, if we don't want to see all of our efforts gone.

[–]2717192619192left-wing male advocate[S,M] 19 points20 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

If you guys want to be associated with those people, I highly doubt the sub is still left wing in anyway.

If you saw what I said in the stickied comment here, I specifically called out MGTOW for their misogyny and stated that we don’t allow it here to avoid their fate (in addition to encouraging basic human decency and gender equality, of course).

[–]ShakingMonkey 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Oh I misunderstood then !

[–]2717192619192left-wing male advocate[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No worries.

[–]skellious 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I got banned because I said that maybe considering all women are sluts is a bit too extremistic.

honestly, any statement about people that starts "all x are y" is probably not a good statement.

[–]rahulrajrai 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

Yeah let's move to Ruqqus

[–]HuronFuegoEsgrimista 22 points23 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

moving to an offsite is just as good as letting them silence the narrative. a site like ruqqus has sumzero outreach and would completely defeat the point of left leaning male advocacy by going to a site that'll get a reputation day 1 as alt-right reddit clone

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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