This is so perplexing to me because it feels like whenever I engage with certain groups online, oppression or maltreatment becomes an arms race.

And I hate that it's happening more and more and becoming less and less "appropriate" to talk about issues men face because we don't face them "enough". Just today I got bashed on an alt for trying to say men's issues were worthy of discussion and I got entirely shut down with much applause by someone saying "when men are sexually assaulted and raped as much as women are, come back to me".

I can't describe how much I hate this attitude because it's clear that it's not any attempt to bring help to women's issues, it's simply used to shut down male ones. I can't seem to find a way to get around it other than putting down the phone and ignoring them. Showing them you care about female issues doesn't do anything because then they demand that those issues be solved before they give you empathy.

It's the nuclear option of gender discussion, and it feels like it's gaining enough social popularity to soon be part of The Discourse. Like soon in order to get any empathy or attention to male issues you must first denote your understanding of women's issues and state that "even though this issue is objectively less harmful and less pressing than women's issues, it deserves a side note in our conversation".

I don't want to be an afterthought, but men's issues aren't respected enough to be talked about on their own with half the population. What are some appropriate ways to talk to these types of people?