I'm sick of reddit 'celebrating' the death of conscripts. I wonder if girls would be conscripted, would it be different?

AlecMaiz0 · 2022-03-06T21:16:47+00:00

It’s easy for people online to judge the Russian conscripts for not defecting or dodging the draft when they aren’t in a similar position of either being conscripted or going to prison. Plus, alot of these conscripts bad no idea they were going to invade Ukraine. They were hoping to do their year and get out.

MelissaMiranti · 2022-03-06T21:19:50+00:00

I celebrate captures and defections of conscripts, since that means nobody had to die.

ripyourlungsdave · 2022-03-06T21:49:49+00:00

Every single discussion about gender in this war is going to be extremely polarized. There are a lot of posts claiming women are fighting “equally to the men” which is so obviously a lie. But if you say anything about it, you’ll be downvoted into oblivion.

I try to point out these Russians don’t deserve to die every time I see people celebrating. It’s one thing if I see an actual Ukrainian celebrating, because that’s his homeland. But people removed from the situation should not be celebrating any of these deaths from an outside perspective. This is tragedy, nothing else.

Edit: Except Putin. We can celebrate something happening to him.

Deadlocked02 · 2022-03-06T23:09:09+00:00

Not only that, but people who also cheer the sacrifices on the Ukrainian side like it’s a fucking movie, like all of those men actually had a choice. It doesn’t matter if they’re fighting a worthy cause, I can’t celebrate the sacrifice of people if I have no idea if they did it willingly.

It’s also extremely upsetting to see the warm welcome of female refugees/children in Poland, in a way. Not that I think it’s a bad thing to receive refugees well, mind you. But how many of those people cheering how well they were received were the same people who slandered the male refugees from Afghanistan for supposedly leaving their country and female family members behind (even though last time I checked, most of the Afghanistan refugees were women, but people choose to focus on the men and give them shit)? It’s very disturbing and infuriating to see this stark contrast.

AlecMaiz0 · 2022-03-06T23:52:49+00:00

Also when they get mad at people for also having empathy for the Russian people who want none of this but are taking the brunt of the sanctions. "Boohoo they’re not causing a revolution or assassinating their mob boss president means they’re complicit. Fuck ‘em" Okay though guy who probably gets panic attack when screamed at. Time to go touch grass.

hellyeahmrwhite · 2022-03-07T03:46:28+00:00

Ive seen some of the pictures of the captured Russian soldiers and most of them look barely 18. They all look tired, confused, and scared.

AdamChap · 2022-03-07T00:39:44+00:00

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SpanishM · 2022-03-06T23:09:12+00:00

They say these things because they are not the ones being sent to fight.

What you're witnessing is herd behavior. And herds are everything but smart.

LaserowaPani · 2022-03-07T07:04:59+00:00

How is it any different from people celebrating the deaths of American soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan? And they were all volunteers to boot.

Additional-Walk750 · 2022-03-07T18:21:16+00:00

This. This is what I keep saying. Fuck Putin's little 'roid rage tussle tantrum, but I can't celebrate the young, un willing Russian kids getting blown apart. None of those guys signed up for this shit. Fuck Putin and his bloated orange fluffer facilitator and all of his fucking fluffers too.

parahacker · 2022-03-06T21:35:04+00:00

I totally agree, but... who exactly is cheering the deaths of the Russian soldiers? I haven't seen much of that myself.

Same same, stand on the side of Ukraine myself, but I haven't seen all that much blame really falling on the Russian soldiers... more where it belongs, on Putin and the leadership. Might be I'm just not looking in the right(?) places...

Razorbladekandyfan · 2022-03-06T23:41:09+00:00

Not mostly boys, its entirely males, Russia doesn't draft women.

decs00046 · 2022-03-07T10:27:40+00:00

I've been thinking about this a lot. I really respect Zelenskyy, but if instead of forcing military aged men to fight, he'd instead forced anyone of military age who doesn't have a child, meaning that included women, would the west be revering him as we are? Obviously we can only speculate but I don't think so.

There's also a lot of talk about how the differences in response to refugees from Ukraine and Syria is obvious signs of racism, and maybe it is, I have mixed opinions on that. But no one talks about how the majority of people fleeing Ukraine are female, and the primary concern of accepting refugees from Syria was the men. At least that's how it seemed to me anyway.

Thanks for posting this, it's a really important point that I think needs to be discussed much more openly.

revente · 2022-03-06T22:18:47+00:00

You're basing your thinking on a wrong assumption that people celebrate their deaths because they're evil.

This is simplistic thinking.

Most of them are probably just a bunch of scared and misinformed boys. That being said. -I'm from central Europe. The whole region had been colonized by Russia over the last few centuries, and we know how inhumane and corrupted Russian rulers can get.

Each of those boys dead on the battlegrounds in Ukraine is one less that's able to fight in a potential war in Romania, Poland or Estonia.

They are a very real threat. In my family, I had ancestors killed by Russians in at least 3 different conflicts.

Yeah, currently Russia is way too weak to invade any of these countries. But if the global situation changes, they will the moment it becomes possible.

Let's say the US loses to China in the Pacific - I guarantee that Russia is gonna creep west.

Obviously, the economical sanctions are even better. They accomplish the same goal without getting anyone dead.

LaserowaPani · 2022-03-07T10:03:13+00:00

I can see that people on this wall are capable of thinking themselves and not just blindly following the media. Have you noticed how practically every msm is informing almost exclusively about this war ? USA raged tonz of wars during last 2 decades but this one is very special.

Also please notice that ukraine and russia are producers of grains and oil ( sunflower seed oil i belive ). This will impact eu food imports alot. And since natural gas is much needed for producing fertilizers, the eu is screwed. We will have food shortages not seen for a loooo time.

God i hate our global "elites". Keep safe and lets hope this war ends fast for the sake of all of us.

SnooRobots5509 · 2022-03-07T15:14:49+00:00

I dunno, if I were to kill someone who could potentially kill my family and rape my fiance, I'd be happy too, conscript or not.

And that's pretty much what happens.

Still, it's a tragedy that young Russians are forced to invade a country against their will, but happiness in saving your fellow countrymen is understandable.

psychosythe · 2022-03-07T19:13:30+00:00

These are generally the same people who think they would've been glorious freedom fighters or martyrs if they'd been German in WWII as well. Stupid people saying stupid things about situations they don't understand.

TatyGGTV · 2022-03-07T13:21:18+00:00

I don't understand how people will be (rightly) upset that there are videos of PoC being turned away at the Polish border, then someone points out that apparently it's because they're men who "should" be fighting and suddenly it's all "ahh of course! they should die, my bad!"

schebobo180 · 2022-03-07T03:06:09+00:00

Tbh the whole thing has got me incredibly distrustful of the west as a whole.

The demonization of Russia is honestly one of the most pathetic things I have seen the west do in recent years given the genesis of this war.

We all know what the US did when Russia put missiles in Cuba, yes they almost started WW3! Russia has warned for years that NATO expansion towards their doorstep is a threat to their security. Which is understandable given that NATO Was literally created to be an adversary to the USSR.

For context I’m not in support of Russia invading Ukraine, but the sheer hypocrisy I’ve seen from the US and the west is infuriating especially with the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan and the US support of brutal killings against Palestine and Yemeni civilians.

Title	I'm sick of reddit 'celebrating' the death of conscripts. I wonder if girls would be conscripted, would it be different?
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Date	March 6, 2022 7:22 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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