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More than "just jokes": The societal treatment of men with small dicks.

December 12, 2021
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The post is non-exhaustive, obviously. I could easily add another list of equal length, but I guess it wouldn't change much.

This post was inspired by some peoples denial of the severety of abuse suffered by men whose genitalia do not fit societal standards. Let's see.

The belief that there was to be a link between penile size and one's behavior is more than common. Big truck? Expensive watch? Anything desirable? Compensating for something. Insecure? Bitter? Resentful? Small dick energy. Rarely does anyone question why we are so sure about the effects - and even less so if maybe the way we treat them and would thus expect to feel if we were in their place has something to do with it. The fact that "small dick energy" and "compensating for something" are itself used as insults - apparently being insecure alone would not suffice as an insult (and it shouldn't), nope, we have to drag dick size into it. Without body shaming, of course, because that would mean we made mistakes...

But it goes beyond that, to talkshows, bigger influencers, politics, activism, healthcare and courtrooms:

What exactly has to happen for people to realize the scope of this issue? In fact, what else is there to happen? How do you top being called the root of the holocaust, have victims of a serial killer suggest it as the root of his anger in court, being mocked over it instead of helped by bystanders in the viral video of your violent rape, being told to kill yourself and being denied treatment if you actually plan to? How do you top courtrooms, theatres and concert halls erupting in laughter and cheering when observing this? How do you top videos of all of this going viral and getting upvoted? This does not just happen, it is rewarded, glorified, celebrated and reinforced into childrens heads well before they reach puberty and will be confronted with porn.

You can bet that among all these audiences, people viewing the videos, people making the jokes... there will be numerous mothers of boys with this issue, there will be fathers of boys with this issue, there will be wives, sisters, friends, classmates, girlfriends and anyone else who could be a person of trust and support to a boy with this issue. And if your first concern is whether he observes it, you did not get it. You don't become a more compassionate person by hiding your lack of compassion from him. By only laughing if you watch the show without him. By only listening to that song without him. By creating a mask of who you are to comfort him whilst engaging in the very behavior that enables the pain he may open up about. Either you care and change, or you are somone whom the boy would want to stay away from if you were honest about your behavior and the views that need to be present to engage in it - even if such a view is "it is just jokes". A view that does not withstand this post, and you know it.

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Title More than "just jokes": The societal treatment of men with small dicks.
Author DistrictAccurate
Upvotes 291
Comments 60
Date December 12, 2021 8:40 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]Skirt_Douglas 98 points99 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It is baffling to me how having a small penis became the worst thing a man could possibly do.

I had to explain to people why attacking Donald Trump on his supposed penis size made no sense, because there are a thousand other things that make him incompetent and/or morally bankrupt, and by attacking his penis, you are choosing to ignore his actual wrong doings and fixating on the one thing that isn’t connected to his character, all the while throwing other men under the bus. It never landed, I would still get the response “He is bad though, so attacking his penis is good.”

The thing is, I think these sadists out there actually like being able to control men by hanging threats of small penis accusation over their heads like a sword of damacles. Which is why if you speak out in defense of men with small penis, they will attempt to silence you by accusing you of being one of them. It’s sad to see Steven Colbert of all people take part in that.

[–]RealityLivesNow 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very well said

[–]RealityLivesNow 44 points45 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

It's called

Mainstream Normalized Misandrist Hypocrisy.

And it's just sick.

The amount of pure gender hatred exclusively targeting all men and all boys at a mainstream level is beyond disgusting. And those sadistic hypocritical man-haters simply can't get enough of it.

[–]TheLWMA 27 points28 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I prefer the term "internalized misandry".

[–]Gman20199 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

internalized misandry

I googled internalized misandry... Google suggested me to search internalized misogyny instead xD

[–]RealityLivesNow 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even google is brainwashed with man-hate hypocrisy

[–]RealityLivesNow 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's correct as well. Internalization of the hatred for men and boys that is regularly promoted by mainstream media and it's followers. Which is fully intended by those promoting such hypocritical misandry.

[–]gabrielcoronel_left-wing male advocate 42 points43 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

The most disgusting part of all this is that most women won't even acknowledge body shaming from women against men, and will attribute it to toxic masculinity.

A: I hate the way society shames men for having a small dick. B: Society? I guess you mean men. Dick size is used by men to put down other men. No woman cares about dick size. Y'know, it's just more toxic masculinity. A: Oh... B: Hahaha, look at that guy, such a small dick energy

[–]peanutbutterjams 21 points22 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

All men are responsible for the shape of society: Hyper-agency.

Women aren't responsible for how their words affect society: Hypo-agency.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This was reported as promoting hate, but the commenter is just explaining some terminology. It is not the opinion of the commenter.

[–]DekajaSukunda 35 points36 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I honestly don't understand how men can willingly have twitter accounts at this point. Like ffs at least misogynist comedians tried to make a witty punchline.

[–]sweetbunnyblood 32 points33 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

100% agree. It's so hypocritical to make any jokes about men's bodies or penises, size, circumsision status. Where's the same outcry as when anyone talks about a woman?!

[–]RealityLivesNow 16 points17 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Exactly.

Unfortunately their message is "care about women but hate men".

[–]Simple_Group -3 points-2 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Who is they? You are making a huge generalization about a diverse group of people. Most women I personally know love men. I am a woman and love many of kind and warm men in my life. This "they" you speak of does not exist. Its an idea. And a hurtful inaccurate one at that. Op is absolutely correct in thinking that no one has any business commenting on another person's body, but to assume it is because of man hatred that all women carry is false. Those women are just assholes. Humans are assholes across the board actually. The problem with equality is not are men or women worse? We are the same. The problem for equality is that bad women aren't getting the same shot at fucking shit up in the government and world as men :p.

[–]RealityLivesNow 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

"They" refers to those people and groups who either ignore or support such male body comments yet protest and revolt against equivalent female body comments. Which basically amounts to a "care about women and girls but hate men and boys" message.

"They" can be people of any gender. Man-hatred is more common among women than men but it also encompasses many weak toxic men who pander to the man/boy hate groups out of fear or in hopes of gaining their favor.

"They" is also the endless moderators on platforms including reddit who freely allow promoting blatant sexism towards men and boys because it's "established" (mainstream media norm) yet instantly censor and ban anyone who dares to point out a female equivalent because it's "not established" (forbidden and censored from mainstream media). Such moderators use their anti-male biases to further normalize their hatred for men and boys while forbidding anything remotely equivalent with genders reversed.

"They" is anyone who has adopted the belief established by mainstream media that men and boys deserve hatred and shame for their bodies that would never be considered widely acceptable towards women and girls. And who further the problem even more by letting that belief control their own individual actions.

The problem is that sexist hatred for men and boys is widely accepted and celebrated while the exact gender equivalents towards women and girls are nearly always forbidden and censored. The hypocrisy of that has lead to the normalized misandry we see all over mainstream media today unfortunately.

My best guess right now is that you are a good and decent person. If that is the case thank you for caring about this subject in the first place. The world needs more people like you in it.

[–]Simple_Group 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Very well explained and articulated. And same to you. :)

[–]RealityLivesNow 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks much and best wishes to you :)

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

to assume it is because of man hatred that all women carry

Nobody was suggesting that.

[–]Deadlocked02 27 points28 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

When they do small dick jokes against guys like Trump, it’s like they don’t even consider the possibility of such jokes impacting negatively a guy that has nothing to do with him. They never once stop to think about how these guys feel. That they might be hurting their own relatives or friends with this kind of bodyshaming.

Btw, I wonder where this belief that men with small dicks are responsible for all the evil in the worst whereas guys with big dicks are cool comes from. This is so far from my lived experience. So, so damn far.

[–]sneedchuckfuck 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I went into a reddit thread that was on the front page once, couldn't even remember what it was. It was a long time ago before I created my account, and someone was doing exactly what you described. They called it small dick energy or something and it just baffled me. Why would anyone say something like that? I remember it was one of the top few replies and it had a lot of upvotes. Some poor guy was questioning that line of thinking in the comments and that dude got downvoted and trashed on. It's always the same cliche arguments too. "If you're offended by it, it's a YOU problem" or "it wasn't meant for you, you should have just ignored it", or something like that. The person who made the original comment blatantly made no effort to specific what they were talking about and instead decided to generalise with a hateful comment and when they get called out for it, they resort to the "it's your fault for not reading my mind" argument. It's gross. Stuff like that puts me off from reddit in general. I really don't need this in my life.

[–]OfficialMitchell2000 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People who do this deserve no love! 🥰

[–]Is_This_Safe_To_Eat 51 points52 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I was out at an EDM show the other night and the dj played some song that had a woman, as condescendingly as possible, singing “I don’t want no small dicked man”. It was a huge mood killer for both my wife and me.

I mean I’m comfortably average and my dick has satisfied every woman I’ve ever been with and that segment started to make me feel insecure. I can’t even imagine how it made the dudes in the room who might be smaller than average feel.

When talking to my wife after the fact she was upset by it for all the obvious reasons. She also was like “I don’t get it, small dicks are sexy.”

[–]RealityLivesNow 42 points43 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The fact that such one-way sexist hatred towards all men and boys is celebrated and flaunted at mainstream levels is sadistic beyond words

[–]silverado1995 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

See: any man of mine by Shania twain lol

[–]RealityLivesNow 30 points31 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

It's notable that exactly equivalent hatred for women is "forbidden and censored" while such blatant hatred for men is "a public celebration". Imagine the same song with equivalent female genital references instead and how different the crowd would respond to it based entirely on misandrist double standards and nothing else.

[–]vhisic 21 points22 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

"dont want no bitch with 1 titty smaller than the other" Oh thats something you were born with and are insecure about, thats a a shame heres a song about it.

[–]RealityLivesNow 17 points18 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The actual equivalent isn't even allowed to be said here. It would reference vagina size. Yet that hatred for men and boys has been constantly promoted at a mainstream level for decades and more now. There's something very wrong with that.

[–]peanutbutterjams 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

FYI, the vast majority of women have 1 breast smaller than the other. It's usually quite subtle though.

[–]Is_This_Safe_To_Eat 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Why’d this get a downvote, it’s true.

[–]peanutbutterjams 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People might have mistakenly thought I was demonizing women in which case I don't mind the downvote as it's the right reaction.

[–]MelissaMiranti 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep, it's usually the left one because the heart is under it, and it gets more blood flow.

[–]vhisic 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

that song came out when i was like 6 or 7, was one of those "played on repeat" on radio stations songs made me insecure even at that age.

[–]LordMandrews 14 points15 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thanks for taking the time and doing the work to put this post together, OP.

I bet lots of people have read your post but are afraid to comment for fear of being associated with it.

Thanks again.

[–]SchalaZeal01 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The SuicideWatch subreddit had to turn away men who are suicidal due to the consequences of living with a small dick, as the internet has proven itself unable to deal with this issue.

Your link is broken, the double slash has no /r/

[–]DistrictAccurate[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah, I just fixed a few links

[–]peanutbutterjams 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Your posts are always a great resource.

How do you collect all these links? Just pure determination and time?

[–]DistrictAccurate[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just pure determination and time?

Yeah

[–]sidthakilla 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Op brilliant post mate!

Really awesome research. And man it's so disheartening to see this stuff, no one has a control over this.

People really have no empathy.

[–]OnenutFellow 8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

As someone who has suffered because of having an extremely small penis this whole post horrifies me... I knew women hated small penises but I didn't know it was this bad...

[–]BloomingBrains 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I really hate the "big/small dick energy" thing. For example, people say stuff like: "Complaining about being lonely is small dick energy". If men told women that were expressing loneliness "that sounds like flat chest energy to me" people would be quick to point out how misogynistic that is for reducing women to sex objects, and rightly so. You're trivializing their woes and basically saying its their fault for not having big enough breasts because women can't offer any value other than sex appeal.

"Big dick energy" is just as stupid for the same reason, but also because its double standard. The term "dick measuring contest" exists for a reason. It's pointing out how stupid it is to fixate on pointless/superficial things to inflate one's ego. If a guy was brash, overconfident, talked about his dick all day, people would say he's acting like some immature frat boi. But when women treat that positively, its apparently ok?

How about this: just be honest about what you want. But they won't do that, because they're afraid of looking superficial. That right there tells you all you need to know.

[–]SchalaZeal01 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

another one who shouldn't be hard to criticize

Be careful of those "that's what she said" double-entendres.

[–]pargofan 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can't tell if these guys were serious or this was a parody, but there was a protest in Los Angeles to bring attention to small penis shaming earlier this year

[–]Stephen_Morgan 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It was run by comedians who are filming a special.

[–][deleted]  (13 children) | Copy Link

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[–]DistrictAccurate[S] 23 points24 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Loose Pussy Logic sexist hypocrisy.

Two wrongs don't make a right.

[–]RealityLivesNow 12 points13 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

As long as exclusively male-only body hate terms literally flood all of mainstream media the man-hating hypocrites will always be happy with it. Only if they ever have to hear the exact same things with genders reversed will they ever reconsider the hypocrisy that they promote with such devotion for misandry.

[–]Skirt_Douglas 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.

[–]Ghostglitch07 3 points4 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

The way to combat sexism is to call it out and be better yourself. If you stoop to their level they will only see it as more proof that men are the problem.

[–]RealityLivesNow 7 points8 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Men aren't the problem to begin with. That's only an excuse they made up to promote hatred for men and boys.

I understand the high road position. But not being able to at the very least state what the gender equivalent is simply encourages more and more of the same old one-way misandry.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You can state it if you also criticize it. But the top-level comment I removed didn't seem to discourage its use.

[–]RealityLivesNow 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That makes sense. And that's a quality position to take.

I don't think such established hypocrisy can be combated without at least being able to state what the exact reverse gender equivalents are so it's good to be able to explain that. Also stating that they are both equally wrong is sensible and the truth.

[–]Ghostglitch07 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Men aren't the problem to begin with. That's only an excuse they made up to promote hatred for men and boys.

i know it's a bad take, my point was your comment would only push people further towards it.

it's like saying xyz" is not the same as just saying "xyz" without the context of criticizing your own phrase as well.

[–]RealityLivesNow 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's a totally fair point.

Though in the context of the entire mainstream media taking the exact opposite position as long as only the male gender is targeted with literally every negativity imaginable it isn't always easy to be a perfect angel. The core of these sexist double standards is pure one-way hatred for all men and boys. That's an evil that cannot be taken lightly.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[M] 9 points10 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Removed for sexism. We do not stoop to their level.

[–]RealityLivesNow 14 points15 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I totally respect that decision. Too bad the entire collective entity of mainstream media is blatantly opposed to extending the same courtesy to all men, teen boys, and little boys targeted by such normalized misandry.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Agreed. And we need to expose them for their sexism.

[–]RealityLivesNow 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Absolutely

[–]SpellAcrobatic2006 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I saw that on Redit, yet it was just must men in general. Personally, I try not to bend one way or the other. It is shameful that society has a standard. Truly sad is when it all gets reapplied as penis envy. Yet Dykes don't have it any easier. Though the standard stereotypical is in reverse. Nobody bothers with a little dykes, but a big dyke have become synonymous with the leadership of the fem-leadership and movement. We have heard them sing, not to mention the Song dynasty aka Dowager Empress...hell even the eunuchs got in on the act of the fat lady wanting dignity. Hey that is the 101 in the school of thought.

[–]Mustbeaight 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It’s unbelievable how downright cruel women can be when they consider you a genetic failure. Damn. Reading those links is a gruesome experience

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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