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The Swedish Gender Equality Agency classifies violence against men as violence against women

TheSpaceDuck
January 18, 2022
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Title The Swedish Gender Equality Agency classifies violence against men as violence against women
Author TheSpaceDuck
Upvotes 235
Comments 69
Date January 18, 2022 9:17 PM UTC (1 year ago)
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[–]TheSpaceDuck[S] 146 points147 points  (49 children) | Copy Link

The authority then writes that "men's violence against women" is an umbrella term, which in addition to violence in close relationships and honor-related violence also includes, among other things, sexual harassment and "commercialization and exploitation of the female body in advertising, media and pornography."

Then comes the following wording:

"By including the concept of violence in close relationships in the overarching concept of men's violence against women, violence in same-sex relationships is also included, or for that matter women's violence against men in close relationships."

Both violence in lesbian relationships and women who beat men should thus be included in the concept of "men's violence against women", according to the authority.

[–]problem_redditorright-wing guest 58 points59 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

sticks head into pillow, muffled screaming ensues

Every single time I think things can't get more retarded, they do.

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 112 points113 points  (44 children) | Copy Link

This is known as patriarchal violence for anyone who wants to dig into it.

It's basically the Duluth model 2.0.

Bell Hooks and intersectional feminism in general really likes this interpretation.

It's an argument from malagency; it reduces the agency of women, and puts all the blame on to men.

And it feeds into their sexist argument that violence in society would end if it weren't for men.

[–]skellious 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

ah yes, it's men's fault if they get beaten by women, because patriarchy. makes perfect sense.... oh look, a flying donkey!

[–]Douglas0327 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Eh this is so retrograde, if you take this line of thought to it's logical conclusion then any achievements by women must also be down to men....it literally reduces women to the infantile caricature that feminism was supposed to overturn.

[–]Man_of_culture_112left-wing male advocate 39 points40 points  (41 children) | Copy Link

Why do we keep including feminism in left spaces ?

[–]RhinoNomad 27 points28 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I think the better question is why would they include anyone who disagrees with them. Feminism is the new left and is a critical part of it. Anyone who disagrees with this mainstream understanding of violence of systems-level thinking is excluded.

[–]TheSpaceDuck[S] 14 points15 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

That's exactly the issue here. Individuals have little power against major organizations and media.

The most perfect example of this is Erin Pizzey. She was a pioneer in women's rights in Europe, and in her earlier days did so together with feminists.

Until her research found that women committed domestic violence as often as men. Then she was branded an enemy by the movement.

It's not a matter of how these radical theories are allowed in left-wing spaces. It's a matter of what's supposed to be left-wing spaces having been hijacked by ideologies that almost perfectly mimic the far-right.

[–]Man_of_culture_112left-wing male advocate 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. The left used to focus on tangible and material goals while the right obsessed over I'll defined problems.

[–]TheSpaceDuck[S] 19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Not only that but left-wing ideas typically tend towards equality while right-wing ideas have historically tended to prioritizing certain social groups and demographic over others.

If over 40% of domestic violence victims get less than 1% of help and funding, it goes without saying that a left-wing approach to it would be to correct that gap in human rights and ensure they get proportional help. However the approach right now is the absolute opposite and more typical of right-wing views, enabling this gap as the demographic in advantage is somehow "more worthy".

If a legal definition of rape is leaving an entire demographic out, the obvious left-wing approach would be to make it equal, not doubling down on the discrimination or use it to claim that the excluded demographic is barely being raped at all ("overwhelming majority of victims are women", etc.)

Same goes for the education gap, sentence gap, reproductive rights, and so on.

The biggest trick that third-wave feminism has pulled was riding on the movement's history to convince everyone that they're a left-wing movement and the MRM is right-wing. Objectively speaking, the opposite is far more accurate.

[–]No-Transportation635 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nice analysis!

[–]Oncefa2left-wing male advocate 21 points22 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

The funny thing is postmodern leftism pushed the "oppression leads to crime" angle which you can see in modern day BLM debates.

Black people commit crime because of systemic and institutional oppression in society. So if white people want to feel safer, they really ought to stop being so racist.

There is of course a lot of evidence for this, and this interpretation is taught in modern day criminology courses. It's what they use to profile serial killers and things like that.

But honestly just take two seconds to think about that and how it might apply to men.

Black crime rates are evidence of racism.

So where does that leave us with the male crime rate?

I'm working on a post about this but that's the gist of it. The left is extremely hypocritical to be so blind about this. In fact their arguments about men mirror the arguments that conservatives use against BLM.

My thought is you're not a true leftist if you do stuff like that. It means you're pushing fundamentally conservative ideas using leftist terminology to do so.

[–]sno_cone_thehomeloan 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so true, I’ve thought about this a lot. It also applies to their arguments about men’s reproductive rights (“If he didn’t want to get her pregnant maybe he should have used a condom. Sucks for him”)

[–]RhinoNomad 3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

My thought is you're not a true leftist if you do stuff like that. It means you're pushing fundamentally conservative ideas using leftist terminology to do so.

I think this is exactly true.

But furthermore, as an American, talking to leftists can be frustrating because many of them hold the very "american" belief that individuals cause their life situations, if and only if they can't feel empathy towards them.

Many Americans, including left-leaning folk, have no problem looking at homelessness as a social/societal failure as long as the populations it affects are women and children. As soon as the fact that most visible homeless are men, and disproportionately men of color, the conversation turns immediately to drug use being the sole factor that puts these men on the streets.

I'm not disagreeing that drug use can be an important factor in why people might be homeless or struggle to keep down a job, but the reality is that there are often a lot of convoluted factors that put men on the streets including mental illness, disadvantaged upbrings, single parenthood, failure of our healthcare system etc.

It's just desperately hard to convince those around you that the homeless, which are mostly male, is our failure too, we've failed them more than they might have failed themselves.

[–]SUPER_CUCK_BROS 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Black crime rates are evidence of racism.

So where does that leave us with the male crime rate?

i dont think the conclusion follows from the premise in the first place but it's a good display of how hypocritical these people are

[–]Man_of_culture_112left-wing male advocate 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Black boys are the ones that are discriminated against the most in American school systems.

[–]Horny20yrold 15 points16 points  (26 children) | Copy Link

Nobody respectful does. I instantly discard the opinion of any leftist (or any one for they matter) who thinks feminism is legitimate.

[–]ThunderClap448 0 points1 point  (25 children) | Copy Link

Feminism has a place in the world. Just not the American version of feminism. Sadly, Sweden is getting more Americanised by the da day

[–]lightning_palmleft-wing male advocate 6 points7 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Feminism has a place in the world.

What place does feminism have in Western, Educated, Industrialized, Rich, and Democratic (WEIRD) societies?

[–]ThunderClap448 -2 points-1 points  (20 children) | Copy Link

There are still plenty of places. My country, actually. Croatia. For instance, do you know what happens to you if you sexually harass a woman in the workplace?

50€ fine. Women should be able to get an abortion, but actually have to go out of country to do it even though by law every hospital is required to have at least one doctor that can do it. Then recently, during some elections for idk what, I think a parliament seat, one party posted their 10 seats, 8 of which are women. The country then started legal action against them for "favouring women", but no such thing happens when all 10 are men. All 8 women are more than just qualified. Women don't have access to permanent contraceptives before 35. Women aren't getting jobs because they "might" get pregnant. Tampons have a luxury tax on it, rather than necessity. Until recently, marital rape was counted as sex.

There is a place for it, just like there will always be injustice to any group at any time. Claiming there isn't a place is just spitting in the face of your own groups.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 8 points9 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

What you're arguing is basically that there is a need for women's rights. And we don't disagree with that.

But feminism puts an ideology on top of that, one which demonizes men. There should be no place for that.

[–]ThunderClap448 -3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Again, you're using the worst of the feminists to describe all of them. My whole point is - don't do that. I don't know one feminist locally that actually does feminist stuff like actually write political articles and are paid for doing so, so I'm not talking about assholes writing blogs on tumblr or whatever - AND is an asshole to men.
What you're doing is as if I called a woman an asshole, so that means I hate all women and all other men hate all women. It's a dumb genralization. And goes against what smart people like u/TheTinMenBlog have achieved over the years which is every side agreeing that there is a problem for both men and women.

[–]SchalaZeal01 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again, you're using the worst of the feminists to describe all of them.

Just the institutional feminists. The ones in power. That should be representative, or something is wrong with the movement.

Not those writing blogs, those getting elected. Those using government funds.

[–]TheSnesLord 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Again, you're using the worst of the feminists to describe all of them. My whole point is - don't do that. I don't know one feminist locally that actually does feminist stuff

The radical misandrist feminism is represented in government, politics, law, education, institutions, mainstream media, entertainment media, news outlets, news media, the workforce, Hollywood, Tech, etc. Basically this type of feminism has infested every corner of Western and European society.

Feminism and women in general are having a great time by taking advantage of the privileges granted to them; mocking, insulting and degrading men for giggles; and being smug and obnoxious about it. You see all over social media, everyday.

Therefore I (and people who are aware of what's going on) will not accept the "not all feminists are like that" card.

I would also be willing to bet that you and the local feminists you know of are secretly loving the rewards of what the bad feminists has brought them. That's why you never see "good" feminists go against the bad ones. Both "good" and bad feminists have the same goals at the root, the only difference is that the "good" feminists are just quiet and polite.

That's why people like you are so desperate to convince everyone that feminism is all good and proper, so that you and your ilk can continue to enjoy the privileges that radical feminism has brought to women.

[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Again, you're using the worst of the feminists to describe all of them.

I'm not even describing feminists at all. I know there are good people who adopt that label. I'm not talking about them.

I'm talking about feminism, the ideology as expressed in important documents and lauded writings of influential feminist thought leaders; and in the actions of feminist organizations, politicians, and lobbyists. Relevant post: https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMaleAdvocates/comments/s8o4pq/a_discussion_on_how_the_feminist_label_supports/

[–]lightning_palmleft-wing male advocate 6 points7 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

For instance, do you know what happens to you if you sexually harass a woman in the workplace? 50€ fine.

First, is that a female-specific issue? Are there harsher punishments for harassing a man? Hypothetically, let us assume that women care more about sexual harassment than men. Even then, is feminism required or would women's advocacy not work without the man-hating ideology (because that is what "patriarchy theory" is in effect) on top?

Then recently, during some elections for idk what, I think a parliament seat, one party posted their 10 seats, 8 of which are women. The country then started legal action against them for "favouring women", but no such thing happens when all 10 are men. All 8 women are more than just qualified.

Do you have a link to show that?

Women don't have access to permanent contraceptives before 35.

Tubal ligation? Is it different for men (i.e., vasectomies)?

Women aren't getting jobs because they "might" get pregnant.

That is terrible. Do you have evidence for this or is that common wisdom in your country?

Tampons have a luxury tax on it, rather than necessity.

Like toilet paper, which both men and women pay for. In the U.S., this "extra tax" amounts to less than 10$ per year. It should not differ significantly between countries.

Until recently, marital rape was counted as sex.

"Until recently" means that this is no longer the case. Furthermore, is that a female-specific issue?

[–]ThunderClap448 -4 points-3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

So your entire argument against feminism is if it's not a female specific issue it's not worth discussing?
Yikes.
I can't quote cause mobile, but bear with me.
Men can get vasectomies, women can't.
Well, there isn't a "research" per se, but literally every woman I've talked to was asked that, and some were outright rejected on that premise - even though it's not even legal to ask.
I do have a link for something similar to the 2nd one, but it's in Croatian, so you'll have to tolerate Google translate probably.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.24sata.hr/amp/news/mozemo-druge-stranke-tuze-za-korupciju-a-nas-jer-imamo-previse-zena-ponosi-smo-na-to-798578

In any case, local feminism is a lotta things, but not man hating. They're exactly what they need to be - they advocate for women. There are a few nuts, of course but I know as a fact they don't hate men. And they strictly avoid talking about America and shit like the this thread because they're not issues that affect us here, and it's just some nonsense by idiots. They do however talk about oppressed women in the western world, raise money for shelters by selling products they make, and, an example as to why they're good to have around here - they protested when there was discussion about conscripting men again. It's old warmongering men that were in the war that were for that.

[–]lightning_palmleft-wing male advocate 8 points9 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

So your entire argument against feminism is if it's not a female specific issue it's not worth discussing?

Yikes.

Your words. One of my arguments is that problems that do not uniquely or overwhelmingly affect women should be approached in a gender-neutral fashion (well, unless no one cares for one side as is the case for men).

Men can get vasectomies, women can't [get tubal ligation].Well, there isn't a "research" per se, but literally every woman I've talked to was asked that, and some were outright rejected on that premise - even though it's not even legal to ask.

I don't know anything about that and it's hard for me to look up information about Croatia as I don't know the language. But if that is true, there is a good reason for women's advocacy. On the other hand, the feminism I'm familiar with does not merely advocate for things like that. OP's article is not a rarity.

They do however talk about oppressed women in the western world, raise money for shelters by selling products they make.

Domestic violence does not affect more women. Raising money and compassion for women's shelters (and other intervention measures) only or disproportionately when just as many men are affected hurts male victims. Men equally deserve consideration and resources.

they protested when there was discussion about conscripting men again

I wonder if they would have protested if men being conscripted was not on the line, but instead, women also being conscripted. See Opinion: I’m a feminist. A mandatory military draft would be terrible for our women.

In any case, local feminism is a lotta things, but not man hating.

It is, and I can show you dozens of evidence. This article is just one example. If you doubt me, just ask.

Also, Croatia is not a WEIRD country:

Croatia is one of the more economically unstable European Union countries, with 19.5% of its population falling below the poverty line.

[–]TheSnesLord 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

There are a few nuts, of course but I know as a fact they don't hate men.

Why are you always trying to cover up for bad feminists?

To be honest, I think the entire thing is nothing more than a man-hating movement so I guess there's no need to call them "good" or "bad". Both have the same goals at the root.

[–]TheSnesLord 1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Feminism has a place in the world.

Yes, in the Clown world.

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[–]a-man-from-earthleft-wing male advocate[M] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Removed as personal attack (rule 7).

[–]TheSnesLord 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's just like how on earth do we keep including women in the minorities group. Being 51% of the earth's human population is not a minority.

[–]Man_of_culture_112left-wing male advocate -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The people who benefit from AA are white women. Feminism (and many other civil movements in the USA) have a history of leeching of Black American struggle. White women voted for Trump at the highest rate, with 69% (I don't like Biden either). Gender is not an issue to rally the left.

[–]Mr-X1 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is one of the most disgusting things I have ever read.

[–]austin101123 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

what the absolute fuck

[–]Metrack14 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

So let me get this clear.

A man attacks a woman, is man violence against woman. A woman attacks a man, is man violence against woman. A woman attacks a woman, is man violence against woman.

... I am starting to think my country isn't so third world

[–]FightOrFreight 110 points111 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Gross but unsurprising. Unless something has changed very recently, the UK Home Secretary does the same thing. Every time a woman kills or beats her husband, it's recorded as an instance of violence against women.

ETA: sorry, it was the UK Crown Prosecution Service, not Home Office

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/sep/07/cps-report-violence-against-women-girl-men-boys-victims-violent-crime

[–]TheSpaceDuck[S] 79 points80 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I had no idea, but this is disgusting beyond words.

Violence Against Women and Girls (VAWG) doesn’t necessarily mean violence against women and girls. It means a subset of criminal offences that have been categorised as VAWG crimes – rape and sexual assault, domestic violence, human trafficking, forced marriage, etc

​

But it is in the most sensitive areas of sexual violence and child abuse where the situation is most troubling. Here, the CPS’s data collection is so inadequate that it is impossible to officially state the gender ratio of victims, they are simply assumed to be female.

They're not even shy about hiding male victims and female perpetrators at this point. But I guess that's one way to inflate "violence against women" numbers while downplaying violence against men.

[–]BoabHonker 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Very glad to see Ally Fogg linked on here. Excellent analyst and someone actively working for men's rights at the moment. Even if he is an MCFC fan.

[–]Complete-Temporary-6 15 points16 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Considering that it's so unlikely that they would even take the cases of women violating men seriously, I doubt that those numbers are even inflated.

[–]Mr-X1 26 points27 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Feminism is one of the most disgusting, immoral ideologies to ever have existed.

[–]LolwhatYesme 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just as bad as any other ideology with bigotry baked into its DNA imo. It's all the same in the end: hate is just hate.

[–]Punder_man 81 points82 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Wait.. so if violence against men is classified as violence against women... then shouldn't it all simply be classified as "Violence against People?"

Or am I missing something here? Because to me Violence against women literally means the violence women experience which can come from men AND women
Violence against men likewise implies the violence men experience from women AND men..

Or is this simply a stunt to further minimize male victims?

[–]Vegetable_Ad6969 56 points57 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Spoiler: it's the latter

[–]ExMuzzy 46 points47 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I imagine this will decrease the number of male victims on paper and increase the number of female victims.

Similarly, men in the UK can’t be raped by women which probably increases the percentage of rape victims that are women (I think they say around 90%).

[–]Vegetable_Ad6969 43 points44 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I find these acts actually terrifying. They are proof about how easy it is to mislead the public by manipulating statistics. Its absolutely shocking that our governments aren't in the pursuit of truth to allocate resources to the taxpaying citizens that need it most.

It makes me think what else am I being misled about through manipulated statistics that I am not informed about.

[–]ExMuzzy 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is horrifying, shows you how meaningless we are to these people. It’s why I can never support their cause (more like religion at this point).

[–]Complete-Temporary-6 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In the United States, they record women forcing men to have sex as not rape, but being forced to penetrate, then claim that men aren't raped in statistics.

This also has the effect of allowing these people to go and say that men are only virtually raped by other men. It's actually disgusting.

[–]vhisic 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I imagine this will decrease the number of male victims on paper and increase the number of female victims.

bingo!

[–]iainmf 59 points60 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is amazing! It's a massive own goal.

Now MRAs can claim that there is a significant proportion of victims of 'violence against women' that are ignored. That Officials are not taking 'violence against women' seriously. That women's shelters reject a significant proportion of victims of 'violence against women'. etc. Male victims of 'violence against women' in Sweden can make video's talking about how they are victims of 'violence against women'. When feminists talk about 'violence against women' you are completely justified in talking about men.

If you are Swedish, write to the Gender Equality Agency and ask them if including male victims in the 'violence against women' category is best practice for supporting male victims.

Write to your representatives and explain how men are included in the 'violence against women' and ask them what they are doing to address male victims of 'violence against women'. If they have been vocal about addressing violence against women ask them if they included men in their previous statements.

[–]mewacketergi2left-wing male advocate 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is such an underrated comment. :P

[–]az226 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Check mate. This guy is playing 4D chess

[–]Elsecaller_17-5 41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I expected to read the article and than to admonish OP for sensationalism. But no. They really said that.

[–]SpamandEGs 42 points43 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Asteroid impacts a town of exclusively male people, women most effected.

[–]peanutbutterjams 36 points37 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Most common form of domestic violence is mutual violence.

Men are twice as likely to be murdered and twice as likely to be attacked by a stranger than a woman.

Why are we lied to about who is most victimized by violence in our society? Because we live in a feminist society and nothing threatens feminism more than humanizing men.

[–]LettuceBeGrateful 34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

This is beyond absurd. They can't even acknowledge male humanity without calling the victims women.

[–]YesAmAThrowaway 24 points25 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"Women also violent. Men bad, women most affected."

[–]gabrielcoronel_left-wing male advocate 28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, it makes sense. Whenever a woman beats a man, it's because she was coerced by patriarchy to do so, we call this internalized misogyny. Women don't have agency over their actions.

On the other hand, whenever a man beats a woman, it's because that was his personal decision, we refer to this as toxic masculinity. Men have not only agency over their personal actions, but over men's as a whole.

Men bad, women good

/sarcasm

[–]hehimCA 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Just more and more Orwellian doublespeak. Insane.

[–]lastfreethinkerleft-wing male advocate 8 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What can men do against such reckless hate? -King Theoden

[–]Tamen_ 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

- I can understand that this way in which it is structured is difficult to understand if you are not a professional and constantly work with the issue, says Berit Jernberg.

Have you not failed then, if it is so difficult to comprehend this?

- I think most people understand why it is actually called this.

When one try to defend the indefensible one easily ends up contradicting one self.

I knew UK have this same issue. There a coalition called the Man & Boys Coalition (https://www.menandboyscoalition.org.uk/) have lobbied quite hard the last few years to get this to change. I hope some people/organizations in Sweden will do the same on behalf of those male victims who are erased by this policy.

[–]MastermindX 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

War is Peace.

Freedom is Slavery.

Ignorance is Strength.

[–]PlagueDoctorMars 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People in Norway/Sweden/Switzerland really get a boner telling the US in particular how much better they are at this and that...but after seeing a whole bunch of stuff like this, I wouldn't go there if my life depended on it.

[–]politicsthrowaway230 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There's an element of "give them enough rope". They are literal lightyears away from how the vast majority of people think, so surely it's only a matter of time before they talk themselves into irrelevance? At some point, people will decide that enough is enough. I genuinely think that it'll be radical feminism that causes the death of radical feminism. Is this wishful thinking?

[–]sno_cone_thehomeloan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think so

[–]brand1996 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does this have something to do with trans people?

[–]sno_cone_thehomeloan 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

you wish. It’s just as bad as it sounds

[–]sno_cone_thehomeloan 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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