What type of society do we live in: Patriarchal or Gynocentrist?

a-man-from-earth · 2021-05-03T02:04:59+00:00

If you're going to say patriarchal, then please define what the term means for you. Evidence would also be good.

Powerful-Building833 · 2021-05-03T08:02:47+00:00

They are not even mutually exclusive. I think a gynocentric patriarchy would be a society where men have power and control over women but they prioritize the safety and well-being of women over that of men. That's basically what the past was like, women were more limited in their life choices but men did the brunt of the hard and dangerous work and sacrificed themselves in wars to provide for and protect women and children. The opposite of gynocentrism would be androcentrism and that would mean men are seen as more valuable and their needs would be prioritized while in a matriarchy women would hold power over men. I think today we have neither a patriarchy nor a matriarchy, but society is still pretty biased towards gynocentrism because female suffering receives much more attention and support than that of men.

twice_punished_janny · 2021-05-03T09:29:32+00:00

Capitalist.

MeasurementRealistic · 2021-05-03T13:38:53+00:00

I think were in both if "Patriarchal" is defined as "relating to or denoting a system of society or government controlled by men" and "Gynocentrist" defined as "a dominant focus on women".

Most governments are ran by men and are quite focused on solving womens issues. Not solely but rather dominantly.

Actually not quite sure if I could say the government is controlled by men since it's really controlled by the voter and the average voter is apparently female. They just keep voting men in.

Personally I don't quite understand what a feminist means by "patriarchy" because they use it to imply things that it can't really do. I also think that they think a government filled with men benefits men because they are projecting their own in-group bias on to men.

They're basically thinking "Well if women (They're really thinking "I" instead of "Women") were running society we would run it solely for the benefit of women so obviously that's what men would do too."

McNultyLikesJameson · 2021-05-03T15:38:28+00:00

Neither.

Although there's definitely aspects of society that skew in either direction.

I do think there's a general view in society that women are more precious, so problems that affect them are intolerable, while problems that affect men are just life.

On the other side, women are less involved in the higher status and powerful positions in society than men.

Thor496 · 2021-05-03T06:16:52+00:00

Patriarchy is a joke.

Gynocentrism is the truth no one wants to acknowledge. They say feminism means equality. What else can I say?

Bambaleila · 2021-05-03T11:50:28+00:00

We live in a capitalist society, it does not care about both men and women, even more - it encourages hate between us, and such question being asked is an example of system working perfect.

bkrugby78 · 2021-05-03T18:43:32+00:00

I think it's more of a feminized patriarchy. Like, men still hold the top positions in companies and government, overwhelmingly. But, access for women has been broadened, to the point where there are fewer and fewer barriers for women to achieve those positions. Hence, women governors, representatives, judges, cops, CEOS, etc.

Society struggles to catch up with these changes though. While women have more agency than they used to, it's still perfectly understandable for a woman to get married, quit her job and be a housewife/mom, etc. While there have been changes in offering support for women, men are mostly ignored. Since, the view of "patriarchy" is that men hold the power, and for those top men it is true, for the rest of men, it's like they are forgotten/ignored.

purebredginger_ · 2021-05-04T05:53:32+00:00

It's a gynocentrist patriarchy. We should get rid of both aspects of that.

BitsAndBobs304 · 2021-05-04T08:01:10+00:00

Both. But while it could be different, patriarchal gynocentrism is the state of most animals

Butt_Chug_Brother · 2021-05-03T05:01:53+00:00

I'd suggest that our culture had elements of both in it.

Justice_is_a_scam · 2021-05-04T06:42:42+00:00

Which society?

If you think the society I live in here in Australia is comparable to the society that I lived in Colombia, so much so that we can categorize them into a dichotomy, we live different realities.

adam-l · 2021-05-04T20:47:20+00:00

Women are happier and live longer.

That's the criteria.

Title	What type of society do we live in: Patriarchal or Gynocentrist?
Author	TheLWMA
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Date	May 2, 2021 6:53 PM UTC (2 years ago)
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