Every conversation I've ever had about this devolves into how women face sexual harassment way more than guys in the dating realm.
Hardly anyone takes me seriously about the actual point of the discussion of wanting to be pursued which is an issue with gender roles more than harassment.
It's just fucking frustrating because no one will offer you empathy if you say dating is hard as a guy. Everyone makes it about them and just tells you to work on yourself.
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nowadays? Not really. You're a man when you can afford to raise your own family and buy your own house... so it's more like 30's or 40's... for many it's never
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He’s part of the 20% in the “80/20 rule”—which is really .5%
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Sort of echoing my point—that 20% is a generous estimate. Probably more like 1% have access to 99%.
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Sadly a "better dating behavior" can't be taught. Unless you can change women's biology, we are out of luck.
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