I know this sound as an oxymoron, but what are the options for a man who wants a family (at least children) but at the same time wants to protect himself as much as possible from gynocentrism?

It seems like most of you guys don't want to have children and completely avoid cohabitation with women and that's ok; but shouldn't we also fight or at least hope to restore some form of legal equilibrium between the sexes so that we can take back some authority and ultimately be able to have a family - if we want to - without being socially raped?

Ok, what about surrogacy for example? How does it really work? I've heard it's an excellent but expensive way to have a kid without having to legally risk being financially ruined by a woman. Do some of you had or plan to have a child this way?

Are there other options?

In my experience, it may be possible to have a family in countries where common law marriage is not legal if:

  • You make sure every expense is paid 50% by both parents, this includes ALL costs.

  • You rent a house and split all bills, or you move into her's house to avoid losing your personal property if or when she decides to kick you out (lol).

  • Marriage is of course out of discussion.

  • You prepare a plan B in case everything goes to shit from the beginning, which includes hiding finances if necessary.

Following these points you will of course still pay a price for having a family, but you will minimize risks.

This is a MGTOW subreddit and that basically means you think building a family is not an option anymore; however I want to hear your opinion on the matter because I know there are many highly intelligent man here and I find the issue worth discussing.

Do really all of you lost hope to one day have kids?