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[β]theydoexist8148 points49 points50 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Kelly is a dumb skank who probably blames the white man and the federal government for all of her problems. And probably expecting a handout to pay off those student loans strictly for her having a set of tits and a gaping vagina.
[β]mkultra336 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
"Gaping" from all the Chad's and Tyrone's that have stretched her holes out. π€‘
[β]theydoexist810 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sounds about right
[β]1010username6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
dated a girl, went back to her place and nearly puked when I took her panties off.
Vagina looked like it had an IED strapped to it and blew up.
Never again.
Now, was it the smell or the sight that made you want to puke? I've witnessed both. I'm a young guy and never thought I would ever see a full bush. That made me want to vomit. I remember going to bang this one chick, she dropped her panties and I caught a whiff of that and ran as fast as my feet could carry. I'll pass on that chlamydia. I feel your pain my friend!
[β]Nemoitto14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But then realizes that equality exists and maybe learning a trade herself would have been better and that privileged male shit is bs and in the end has to call Kevin to fix stuff for her cuz she doesnβt know how and now her money is Kevinβs money lol
[β]Vorobubumgtwanyan4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly, you realize you can go to the 1-year tech school and get the same exact opportunity... right?
Kelly: "But then I won't be able to bitch, moan and complain about how hard I have it!"
[β]Jarin013 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bitches are lazy cunts that think that white men all have magical superpowers and actively work together to try to keep her down.
[β]1010username1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The Patriarchy forced her into debt, remember that.
[β]masterpiece00202 points203 points204 points 4 years ago (29 children) | Copy Link
Answer: Neither, the slave owners and banks they work for are the only winners.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 46 points47 points48 points 4 years ago (23 children) | Copy Link
For the time being. Men , partially you are right. It is all JOOS. πππ
[β]masterpiece0050 points51 points52 points 4 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
Completely right, we are slaves, debt or not.
[β][deleted] 38 points39 points40 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Woke Monk here,
It depends on your job and how well you manage money. If you work a 9-5 job in an office doing the same shit everyday , or have to work a lot of hours as a plumber. (To keep the GDP up) You are a slave.
But if youβre something like a surgeon, that pays his 200k debt off In 1 year, and afterwards gets paid for whatβs in his brain, not what you can physically do, you are not necessarily a slave.
Itβs relative, like a lot of shit.
And the Zionist bankers are not Jews, they pretend to be. Rabbi Jonathan is not addicted to your money.
Now lemme excuse myself Iβm getting back to ghosting
Cya
[β]RavenLordx14 points15 points16 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Piss off ghost!!
In all seriousness though you are kinda right. The main problem is that you really need to find something you love doing and are good at, but that rarely is the case in today's society.
[β]Spilledmychips9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Or find something that gives you enough cash to retire before your mind and body burn out.
10-20 years.
You canβt predict what will fail in the 20 year mark anymore with innovation or your body aging.
[β]xnesteax0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Buy Crypto ma dudes, it may make our lives easier.
And if it doesn't we at least tried
[β]Spilledmychips-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
You made an assertion and then undermined your own assertion.
[β]xnesteax1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because no one can be 100% sure.
Makes sense no?
[β]Spilledmychips0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Youβre the bright one in class arenβt you?
An assertion like: βbuy thisβ or βdo thisβ is facts based.
So your new statement is you tossed an opinion out of your ass and canβt recognize that telling anyone to do anything while you are unsure, makes you a mouth flapper.
You know who runs their mouths and upsets all of us here at mgtow? Feminists or women who use their pussy as a pass for being retarded.
[β][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mine is mathematics, it was a big struggle getting to this realization. I was working my ass of to become a Green Beret before, got mentors and everything, but then I woke up to the reality.
Lost all my purpose, got depressed, started trying stuff out, thinking, reasoning, reading and I ended up at mathematics or surgery.
Chose mathematics because I donβt like useless people.
βοΈ
[β]iWillNotLetYouGo3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You sound like me but I got so depressed for so long that my brain was fried
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn't even say love doing. More like you can tolerate it for years on end.
I don't love writing corporate software, but it's not too bad - I can work remote often, and time flies when you're challenging your brain. And it pays well.
But you've got the right point. The biggest mistake I see with the current gen is when they go to an expensive college for $75k in debt to follow their passion. Unless your passion pays the bills, not a good idea.
[β]HelmutHoffman6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Rofl, a six figure salary for working a 60 hour week doesn't put you at the same level as your billionaire owner(s).
[β][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea and surgeons rarely have time for anything else either.
Getting woke up at 3am because some poor guy is dying on an operating table.
Doesn't sound too free to me.
We're all going to have to work, there isn't any way around that. Find something you can tolerate, live frugally, retire soon.
[β]firzosudra23 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'd rather work in a boring office than work as a surgeon. I don't think I could take the stress of long shifts and 1, 2, 3, 4... or even 10+ hours surgeries. Not to mention that I would've to study a lot of things I don't like (bio, chem and even medicine itself). In addition, the depression and suicide rates among doctors are significantly higher than the general population. But each with their own opinions.
The truth is, most jobs (90%+) are boring, stressful or strenuous (or all). Working was never meant to be fun. If you have a boring (and not stressful/strenuous) job that pays well you're already VERY lucky. If you don't like it, at least you can save a lot of money and retire early.
[β]Gentleman_Monster2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You don't know what slavery is lol.
Slavery is a legal distinction that discriminates against an individual for whatever reason/reasons.
Cattle slavery isn't the only type of slavery.
For example, the Chinese and Turkish Eunuchs were "slaves" but they held power comparable to the King and Emperors as advisors.
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No you're wrong. Unless you live away from society where you have built your own house, grow your own food and pay zero tax you are a slave whether you want to believe it or not.
Literally everything is tax whether its your payslip, the food you buy, the products you buy, the house you buy being on government land meaning you have to pay property tax means you are a slave.
[β]SuNamJamFrama690 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Not if your a bum
[β]EquilibriumMan-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Except you know we get paid
[β]FrogMasta275 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just enough to keep you on that treadmill.
[β]masterpiece000 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Slaves get/got food and shelter, so that they have energy to work.
[β]imathrowaway19941 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Cope
[β]OniiChanStopNotThere5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
1) don't get in debt for feminist dance therapy major 2) go to trade school. 3) with a decent salary (non min wage, but not six figures either) you should be able to save 25% of your after tax income. 4) continue saving. 5) Go out on a venture. Open a small business. Inevest in stocks. Once you have a safety net, pursue bigger risks to get bigger rewards.
This strategy won't make you a billionaire, but it will let you retire with money in the bank.
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I work in a trade and banking/finance is why my investments are doing so well. Without banks and stuff, you would need to find investment on Craigslist or something. It would be a pain in the ass.
Nice comment, I agree. Let the money work for you, banks are going to be around regardless.
oye vey
[β]theydoexist81-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I could use a few slaves around my plantation. Just saying
[β]Pepe_the_Emperor110 points111 points112 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
-Doesn't even know who Kelly is
[β]swiswis3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is gold
[β]FutureIsManAndRobot2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They were probably in middle school together but he has long forgotten her sorry ass after she rejected him for Chad, looks like he dodged a bullet here.
[β]SirSips101 points102 points103 points 4 years ago (16 children) | Copy Link
One year of tech school usually doesn't cost much at all. Kevin must have taken a crazy amount of courses to build up that 3 year debt.
[β]bonethugsgoat58 points59 points60 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Yeah like wtf? 3 years? I'm about to take a 10 week HVAC course in August for $1500 (book included) and they have job placement, the school have live systems in the lab and a majority of the class is hands on. It's a very small school that only accepts up to 10 students per class.
People, if you want to go to trade school look for small local schools first and make sure they're licensed and regulated, or go to a community college for a year or two. Don't pay no 20k to some bullshit for-profit tech school.
[β]Pat_o_cake21 points22 points23 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
And watch out for relevance. I've seen lads pushed onto courses for technology that's already going out of use. Course providers don't care as long as they get their money.
[β]PopularElevator210 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
THIS. I use to teach at tech colleges. They wanted me to teach COBOL in 2019.
[β]Malinkadink7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You ever think about why they wanted you to teach COBOL? News flash the people that started COBOL all those decades ago are retiring and companies badly need to fill these rolls. This is coming from a 25 year old now working in mainframes. Here's a link to some interesting facts about them and why they're not going anywhere: https://blog.syncsort.com/2018/06/mainframe/9-mainframe-statistics/
[β]PopularElevator20 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup, I used to teach COBOL and I programmed in it professionally. News flash there are not a lot of COBOL jobs out despite what people think outside of the industry. Most companies that used COBOL have died, some companies have teams internally to write COBOL to a modern language, some use 3rd parties which uses tools (the tools are actually pretty good), the majority have decided to say fuck it and rewrite the application because of the cost of maintaining it is more than rewriting it from scratch. Yes there is a lot of COBOL in this world, but many companies are getting rid of it pretty quickly because they don't want to pay huge salaries just for IT. Go on indeed type in COBOL, then type in Java.
News flash the pay isn't that great in the long term. You are stuck in that job and there is no room for growth. Sure they keep you around for 2% pay raise or you can learn a more modern language and switch jobs every 2 years to get a nice 10%-30% pay raise instead. The jobs that pay a large amount of money compared to colleagues who work in the fiance side of things you will be paid pennies. Also, the COL in those areas is sky high.
The pay and jobs are all in embedded work. I did embedded for 9 years. I made the most money in my career in embedded work and the work is interesting. Writing networking protocols, rewriting compilers, maintaining operating systems, etc. Embedded jobs are growing with no one to take them because everyone wants to learn JavaScript, but no one wants to mess with.
Finally, companies want years of experience in COBOL. You lucked out and got in mainframes. Most want decades of experience vs a few years for JavaScript. Why should I teach COBOL to a group of students where 1 out of 1000 might get a COBOL job vs teaching JavaScript where almost all will get a job in a language with more jobs available and low barrier of entry.
[β]8017351 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I see your COBOL and raise you one Oberon. ]=)
[β]PopularElevator20 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow. Never heard of it. I thought COBOL was hell. Every mess with Fortran?
[β]8017350 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nope.
[β]1010username0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
COBOL is still in use.
I know. I taught a course in it and I had a job programming in it, but some how or another people got this idea that there are tons of jobs. There's not. Many companies have hired third party to convert their COBOL to a more modern language. I was recruited by one of these companies, but declined their offer.
You will get more bang for your buck double majoring in EE/CS and getting an embedded job. I did this for 9 years after my first job as COBOL programmer. Embedded developers get paid more that regular developers and there are more job out there for them. With IOT, smart cars, smart devices, alot of old people that maintain c/c++ codebases retiring. Also there work is interesting as fuck. I had a maintain a propriety networking protocol and I had to maintain a company compiler too.
[β]1010username0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True dat :)
[β]binrobinro7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You haven't read the Dissertation he wrote when he got his Doctorate in plumbing.
Sounds like a good porn title.
[β]hunchobigbag5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It depends at atlanta tech where I go to school my program is just under 7k but ay georgia piedmont the same program is over 10k.
Welp if ya become an apprentice ya skip all the payin to learn bull shit!
[β]proxeoxe0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Who knows maybe he had a little coke habit on the side and was spending too much on that to pay down his debts.
[β]ransay327781 points82 points83 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh, and Kelly... Kevin leaves the toilet seat up.
[β]666sdk66655 points56 points57 points 4 years ago* (16 children) | Copy Link
A few points to correct:
Her....
Degree is in something completely useless for which no market exists or has ever existed such as Grievance Studies.
Went to a private, liberal arts college and since she spent more time sucking dicks than studying took more than 4 years to graduate. $250k in debt for her BA.
Even less employable than before college she went whole hog and got a useless advanced degree in something stupid. Another $250k in debt for MA/PhD.
Waits tables for $2.13/hr plus tips. And since she reeks of βvictimhoodβ and has a shit attitude tips are scarce.
Crapped out a couple of crotch goblins along the way so any man interested in her needs to be prepared to simp for a couple of mini-Tyrones in addition to supporting her and paying off her debts. But she still thinks her wallowed out, STD ridden pussy is made of gold.
Still looks down on Kevin for being βuneducatedβ and βworking with his handsβ.
Him....
Using his tech credentials to earn money while thinking about going back for a degree in something actually useful.
Graduated with no debt because community college is cheap.
Pays more in taxes than Kelly earns.
Would fuck Kelly but would be smart enough to wrap it up, would block her after that and still wouldnβt give a shit what she thinks.
[β]LiveTheTruth3216 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This! This right here.
[β]ChaosTheory23326 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
You actually explained my situation to a T. went to a trade school to be a mechanic. and have very little debt compared to my peers. But, i am having a hard time finding a decent paying job in my city. I live in one of the biggest cities in the US, with one of the highest tax rates in the US.
Currently I am back in school to switch careers. Even after 5 years if experience I make just under $20 an hour. But my body is not happy with the daily abuse. And I'm a fairly young in shape guy. Can't imagine what 30 years of this will do to me.
[β]allodermate10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Something you notice about MGTOW is the strong presence (either majority or vocal minority) of conservatives who think college is a waste and trade is the greatest and manliest career in the world with no faults.
To take everything with some salt. Sure, you can earn good money as a carpenter or plumber, make six figs, etc. But like you said. The toll on your body. Or you can have an office job, not work outside in August in Georgia, make $300k/year and stay in shape at the gym. But hey college is for pussy beta cuckboys.
Both sides have positive and negative aspects, MGTOW just happens to favor the conservative/right wing element of trade schools.
Not to bash MGTOW, as I do like several tenets of it, but it can pull back on the "manliness " aspect. Being tough is one thing, but doing stupid shit to be tough is just being retarded
[β]ChaosTheory23326 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I fall more into your camp of MGTOW. I would rather find the path of least resistance.
Funny enough, i actually find most tradesman got into the trades because their grand daddy was the manliest man they ever saw man. And wanted to follow in his footsteps. No thoughts of their own to be had.
Beautiful thing about MGTOW. I don't have to care what anyone else thinks as long as I am happy.
But sometimes you want to help the young and impressionable from going down this "one size fits all" ideology.
[β]allodermate2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
no thoughts of their own to be had
That's the irony. Lots of MGTOW (of which, a lot of MGTOW seem to be conservative/right wing again), have this fixed thought that isn't their own. They dont think for themselves, so no "going their own way" and acting like the "NPCs" they like to call liberals. And they also act way more sensitive or equally as sensitive, which goes against their definition of "manly"
It's pathetic but kinda funny. Gotta learn to think fr themselves and carve their own identities. But that can only come by having experienced both sides
[β]ChaosTheory23324 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's interesting. The more familiar I am with this sub, the less i identify with MGTOW. Then i listen to the thoughts of men like HUman and I'm back in again.
Same. masters in engineering physics. not at the salary I want buy it's attainable. A lot more freedom than trades. House remodeling and exercise is my hobby. A LOT more freedom in the office. just have to find what makes you happy
Most of those "tough" manly men will be crying in their late 40s being totally crippled unable to even move. Working in an air conditioned office isn't oppression its being smart and looking after your body.
[β]bonethugsgoat1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
In my case I'm simply not cut out for college so it's either trade school or live with mom working retail for the rest of my life. Not everybody is smart enough to be able to make 300k a year.
[β]allodermate2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's fine man everyone has their strengths and weaknesses, if calculus isn't for you but you can fabricate and weld like Hecontocheir then hell might as well make use of it
My comment is more fr the braindead populace that are oddly anti-intellectualist/right wing
[β]Geleemann2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mechanic is a terrible job for your body, switch careers asap. And the money isn't that great
[β]ChaosTheory23320 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hear you man. All of my effort is on my exit. I basically work another full time job with my course load. But it will be so sweet when it's done.
A nice side benefit though, for a college student in a college town i make great money. I just work too much to enjoy any of it.
[β]lastlaugh1004 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Grievance Studies, damn that's gold
[β]666sdk6661 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Itβs a thing
[β]Hirudin1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only hope that one day I'll have the self esteem of a middle aged woman on welfare.
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Grievance Studies
Hilarious. This is now my go-to for useless degrees.
[β]NeverNeverLandIsNow42 points43 points44 points 4 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Not to mention Kevin could easily transition to his owning his own business with the skills he is gaining and make even more than 75K, I really can't understand why people look down on trades, they really are an awesome option for work.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Blue collar work is mostly look down upon. But capitalism has even rewarded that. See all of these MMA fighters, some of them don't come from very remote areas,but they earn a pretty good loving and money and fame, which every guy desires.
[β]JoeDimwit5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have zero desire to be famous. Iβll take βrich and anonymousβ any day.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Well if you are someone like tony ferguson or NICK DIAZ, you cannot be anonymous.
[β]JoeDimwit1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know. But I donβt need or want everyone to know who I am.
[β]Pat_o_cake11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then a Kelly sneaks into hr under the radar and in a few years lawsuits happen. Kevin goes bust.
[β]NeverNeverLandIsNow4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Possibly, hopefully Kevin can avoid hiring Karen and instead hire Dave, try and make any job you need to hire for sound unappealing to women so that if a woman applies she will hopefully be reasonable (yeah big ask I know)
[β]cleverbutnotoverlyso3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I wish I had done that instead of college.
[β]absolute_panic2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yup. I basically am Kevin (minus the 3 years of debt). Got my Electronics Technician cert, got a job before I was even done with school. Transitioned to pharmaceutical QC (working on analytical equipment) and now I have a skill set that will get me good paying work anywhere I want.
[β]NeverNeverLandIsNow2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is awesome man, I went the college route but sometimes wish I had not, I do programming which I enjoy but the corporate environment itself sucks.
[β]Gentleman_Monster0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
People look down on trades because many people come from countries where there is very little to/no demand for labour.
I think in the Talmud, the Rabbis make fun of a farmer who is making wine. They ask him, why do you make wine when you can sell it and make more money?
That's why you see that Jews hate labour work, as they prefer that the shaygetz Goyim do that and they sell it.
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[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They think that just because they have gone to a college, that is why they point their finger at anyone.
[β]PM_ME_SPONGEBOBMEMES17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
women donβt go to college to get a degree, they go to college to hoe around and then leech onto a man their junior/senior year
[β]bigmodaman201735 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The vast majority of women that I met in college just used betas to get good marks via tutoring or copying his work. They would implicitly lead betas on as most assumed if they did enough school work and tutoring eventually they would get some pussy. It's really fucked up.
On the side, they were always fucking the alpha males. They would make sure this is kept hidden from the beta males and would act like prudes and grossed out if beta cuck ever brought up any topic sexual in nature.
[β]modern_rabbit1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Yeah cuz they don't do that anyway? No, they go to college to say they're going to college. It's all about status.
[β]PM_ME_SPONGEBOBMEMES0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
they have a much easier time finding an educated man with a higher future earning potential at college
[β]modern_rabbit0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No, nobody plans it out like that, they're more like dogs chasing rabbits. They don't go looking for a rabbit, they're not that clever. But when they smell one they take off after it.
[β]KingKomp70 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was talking with a girl the other day, and we were talking about my career. I went to a well known college, graduated and all that but needed up hating the work. I quit and went to basically trade school, I'm much happier now and I love my job, plus I make better money now.
After explaining all this she was so excited and blown away, tried to convince me to change back to my original career... I didn't know what to say lol
I think she just liked the "status" of the job with the college degree.
[β]PolukranosEatsWords0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
To get their Mrs. Degree.
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[β]BrizzLatency2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is especially true in single parent households I had an idea of what I should do but now I'm totally lost at 23 knowing that the career I picked isn't anything I'm interested in fully, but I'm looking for a way to get the skills to have a good job without getting into any serious debt like my mom.
[β]868-hack20 points21 points22 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Design, art and entertainment markets are super saturated and pay like shite, yeah... but they're a lot of fun. I haven't "worked" a day since I escaped the world of trades. I just get paid to do hobby stuff, dick around in front of the computer, doodle things, stuff like that. I suppose there's always two sides to a coin.
Props to the guys who break their backs so that the world turns but I don't want to be one of them.
[β][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Props to the guys that don't make shit, and yet, still pump out works of art that remind us of the beauty of our temporal condition.
[β]loloLogic-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Ok, but that's neither of the pictures' subject so... just a weird humble brag?
[β]868-hack6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
My mistake, I'll speak in simpler, less abstract terms:
Many people want fun and cozy jobs --> these jobs require long studies --> some people are culled but many remain --> competitive market. The result is less pay and more debt offset by a fun/cozy job. I insist it's a valid tradeoff for many.
What I don't understand is women going into poorly paid unfun jobs such as nursing. Every nurse I know complains about her job AND her pay, AND the moderately long studies she had to endure.
[β]loloLogic-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No need to be a dick, I understood your terms quite easily, they were already simple. I simply was questioning the relevance of your post beyond bragging about how much smarter/ better you think you are for being in a job you find superior when it wasn't referenced at all by the meme.
Regarding women and their complaints, let's be frank, women will complain about anything they have to do they consider work. See: raising their own children as a housewife.
[β]868-hack0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My kind of career path (the left) certainly isn't unequivocally superior but I wish to remind that neither is the one on the right because unlike in the caricature, real-world paths have pros and cons; my original point being that many people flock to jobs that require long training, are hard to get into, and pay poorly. Why? Because those jobs are probably fun or interesting to a degree where they hardly feel like work.
[β]Pruny8519 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Leeches dont even want to work
[β]Cuddleswithspiders0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, fuck Hirudinea!
[β]NVCowboy18 points19 points20 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
My son is due to graduate HS next year. He's very strong in STEM, but hates reading/writing papers. College would be hell on that kid.
We're thinking of going the route of paid internship as an Electrician. Decent wage while learning a trade. Good wages when he completes his training, with the potential to start his own business down the road.
No debt, job skills, career options. Just avoid Karen and he'll have a great future.
[β]Elongated_Muskk7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you can get into a union, being an electrician is solid. Especially if you can get into a union with a higher wage, many of them pay upwards of six figures.
[β]orangekeyster15 points16 points17 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
This kind of stuff annoys me. Basically saying I wasted 6 years getting both my BS and MBA. Not that i'm making 100k but I'm doing okay with myself, even with my student debt. But yeah.. I think this is irrelevant for this group.
[β]LILHOMIE125011 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
A lot of us have degrees, I just got my associates and am working on my bachelors but what heβs saying is that college is not the only way to a successful career
[β]orangekeyster11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree 100000% It's more or less the people who shit on people who have degrees as if they have something to "prove". we are all GOING ON OUR WAY. Weather it leads one person to be a doctor or another person to start a company out of HS. it doesn't matter in my opinion. I know people that consistenly post stuff like this to prove they are "better" than people who have degrees. It'd be the same for people who have MBA or doctorates running around saying they are better than anyone who doesn't have one. No need. be quiet, be humble and go your own way.
[β]WanderlustYouth1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I got my associates for free.
[β]LILHOMIE12500 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
How?
[β]WanderlustYouth0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Scholarships, and state grants, mixed with going to a smaller college for my AA that had a good transfer plan to a state university.
[β]LILHOMIE12501 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Hey good on you man, I know this sounds cheesy but keep up the good work
[β]WanderlustYouth0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Bro even i have a degree, but that doesn't matter right now. A.I. and automation is there to take on the jobs anyways.
[β]orangekeyster2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
As of now A.I. Can't do accounting so i'm safe. Hopefully till at least i die.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They even designed a prototype AI for amazon. But, as it lead to recruiting the best person for the job (i.e. MEN), all the heads started exploding and they had to disband their own prototype program.
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[β]orangekeyster1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Sure some of the very basic functions can be automated. But I think (again personal opinion) that some of the heavier side of accounting/finance just wont be automated anytime soon.
[β]binrobinro0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Here come the robot plumbers.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Not robot plumbers, but automation may come in mcdonalds as well.
[β]Yahu542 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
And hopefully some AI to explain to you when a joke is being made.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am sorry sir, english is not my 1st language. My bad. πππππ
[β]askmrcia3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
Reddit is where a lot of these STEM lords come out of the woodwork and likes to shit on anyone who doesn't have a compsci, engineering, or medical degree.
Then you have some who looks down on those who went to college because "I skipped college since it was a scam, I went to a technical school and now I make six figures with no debt at age 24. Haha suck on that."
I get the point of the post that women tend to major in something like marketing because it was easy so they can spend the rest of their time in college partying and screwing around.
I don't think op mentioned anything about business degrees or whatever. Op didn't mention anything about being superior. The point of his post was to showcase that you have a lot of women who fuck around in college while accumulating debt while at the same time looking down on men who don't have a college degree or who don't have a high salary.
To your point, Kelly SHOULD be better off as long as she isn't stupid with her money. I worked at software companies the past 5 years and these women mid level managers don't know shit about coding, but they are programmer's boss.
[β]orangekeyster3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I guess putting it into this perspective tis true. But I know plenty of people who just did communication as a major just to "get bye" or go work for mom and dads company etc. But Now that you put it into that light, yes it makes absolute sense. My ex said she wouldn't consider dating anyone w/o a college degree, yet neither her parents went past HS, very blue collar, and she was a comms major who worked as basically a glorified secretary. lol.
Kelly SHOULD be better off as long as she isn't stupid with her money.
That doesn't sound like most women. She'll be better off because she'll find some simp to marry and pay off her student loans.
[β]Leroyjankins898912 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
Now Kevin needs to pay more taxes so Katie doesnβt have any student loan debt!
This is the most obvious solution!
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Being MGTOW is the solution.
[β]Leroyjankins89897 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Doesnβt protect you from bloated government and libtard taxes
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Being mgtow means that we as men could alsi settle down as expats in other nations. There is always a demand for an english teacher everywhere.
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Forgiving student debt is going to help everyone for a number of economic reasons. But Iβm not going to get into it. Fuck Kelley
[β]Leroyjankins89890 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea cause the guy that learned a trade and made a career without college should have part of his taxes go to people that made poor choices and took out loans for degrees that are worthless (not all degrees are worthless obviously).
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[β]nordicpolarbear2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Well the system could easily topple with women in charge. And the way men have been treated they might not choose to save it.
[β]ChaosTheory23322 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
This is the reality of the situation. Auto/diesel mechanics are a dying trade due to lack of interest and an aging work force. There are almost no mid level positions available, and the pay in most cases is under $18 an hour. Sure, i have met mechanics that make 100k after 15 plus years of experience. But bot a one of them has not had a major surgery due to work related injuries.
I have played both sides of the fence, and will take my BA and work a cushy job making the same money and not beating myself to hell.
Trades are great as a starting point in your life. Take a training program at 18. Maje good money for your age while you figure yourself, and life, out.
[β]bonethugsgoat0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well in my case I'm too dumb to get a BA so it's either I work a trade or work retail for the rest of my life, if I beat my body to fuck then oh well, better than working in retail.
[β]ChaosTheory23320 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You're too hard on yourself. Some of the dumbest, drunkest, most useless people i know hold a BA. And make more money then me.
I dropped out of community college around 2013, there's no way I'll be able to handle Uni if I barely even made it out of High School (I had to take remedial classes just to graduate) let alone community college, not only that but I don't really want to work some office job anyway and damn sure not about to go back to school for 4+ years to do so.
It's all personal preference man. Do what makes you happy.
But don't say you couldn't do it. Or that you aren't smart enough. You may have to try harder. But I'm sure you could. It really isn't that hard.
[β]Orome20 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is really true. Trades pay pretty well starting out and have lower education requirements than a lot of other professions, but they often take a toll on your body. A lot of trades are a 'young man's' job, but not well suited for when you are older and have lots of aches and pains and health issues. Not everyone can transition into starting their own business and being successful.
I know a buddy that graduated from the same school as me and went into business for himself. 5 years later, the stress has destroyed him mentally and physically. And he is ready to sell the buisness and go back to being an employee.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Men could do ANYTHING. From sewage work to being a janitor when the hard times come. On the contrary, women could only brag about their degrees.
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] -1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Then they need to learn to code and that is why the vo tech schools are necessary, especially for veterans who don't wanna become a contractor after 20 years in military.
Enough with the coding bs. Its not as easy as some people think and companies treat programmers like dirt.
[β]asuvalskas11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Regret going to college every day. I swear I wouldve made a great machinist if I stuck with it and got a couple of years under my belt. Then went to school later. But I wanted to college experience. So I picked a bull shit major that I wasn't even really passionate about and went to school. I got my degree and now I'm at a dead end job living with my parents paying school loans instead of making a life for myself.
I know I can't give you advice, but I hope someone in mgtow can help you man. Also your not the only one facing this issue.
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (20 children) | Copy Link
Sorry but $75k for that job right out of tech school isnβt feasible.
The writer of this meme clearly has some issues speculating on the job market
[β]UK_Garce11 points12 points13 points 4 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Ive got a friend who did a 1 year tech program right out of high school. Now he works 10 hour days, 4 days a week and makes $65k in the rural midwest as a 19 year old. In 4 years, after he gets a few more certifications, he'll be making upwards of $100k a year. So it is actually possible, but not the most common thing to happen.
[+]ultrasuperthrowaway-6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago* (18 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but he could be making $200k in finance with a 4 year degree
Even more as a Director level $400k for a director is reasonable and I wonβt even get into the executive salaries because they are mind blowing
[β]askmrcia4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
It will take years if not a decades for him to reach that level of salary with just a bachelor finance degree come on.
And even then a finance degree or business degree definitely does not guarantee that type of salary ever unless he's going to an ivy league or private school
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yeah but whatβs his life expectancy? Is he going to die before a decade or something?
He will still be busting his ass 10 years from now in that bullshit when he could be making way more, while Kelly will have her $400k Director title and heβs fixing her HVaC like a bitch
[β]PeterPumpkinHead910 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seems like you are speculating too optimistically on female achievements.
[β]UK_Garce3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
True, but how many people do you know making $200k as a 25 year old? You dont because they still have to bide their time at the company and work up the corporate ladder. The guy i was talking about has the title of "junior operator" and hes making that $65k. Hes still got about 5 levels above him that he can easily get to with time.
Also if youre unaware, investing in a Roth IRA at max for the first 10 years of your working life, say 20 to 30 years of age, will outpace the value of your investments for the next 30 years if you are still maxing it out. So making $200k is great and all but you won't be seeing that until youre well into your 30s. Where as $100k at 25, you can do a lot more with that money to be invested and have 10+ years of letting it grow from compound interest.
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
With the finance degree and a solid understanding of modern portfolio theory you will make that shit so fucking good itβs insane
I will be retired at 50 while this cuck is still fixing bitches air conditioning
[β]UK_Garce1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
Not that kind of trade, bud. Youll be thanking him for keeping electricity running to your entire city.
Also, unlike what you said in another comment, he will likely be a supervisor of many different work teams so he wont be doing the grunt work.
Anyways, back to money, if youre making $400k in finance, youre probably living in a relatively large city with a decently high cost of living, whereas $100k in rural Midwest sets you up to easily own a 5000+ sf house in under 5 years.
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
I could move to a rural community anytime and live like a king while these types of bitches suck on my toes
[β]UK_Garce4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
You really have a problem with thinking so many people are beneath you. You might want to change that before you lose the few remaining friends and family you still have.
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If I want a friend Iβll order a dog off amazon
[β]UK_Garce2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Go support some puppy mills then. Youre gonna need a few
[β]bonethugsgoat1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus you're a prick.
[β]Geleemann1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You're a cancer. You'd be fired so fucking quick you wouldn't have time to count how many toes I have. I don't care how skilled or competent you are. You're gone, champ. Feel free to take a mintie on the way out xx
[β]ultrasuperthrowaway-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
No, Youβre Fired.
[β]Geleemann0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No u
Yeah, I doubt you have any sort of degree.
[β]Dresslerj17 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
These memes are dumb because they lack nuance.
[β]WeHaveIgnition2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Seriously. Iβm βKellyβ in this meme. Iβm a man who got a liberal arts degree with a major in a saturated market and graduated in a recession. My cousin is βKevinβ. I make more money than him, have less debt, and greater growth potential. I gave up on my dream and got an office but because of my degree I got a good job and was accelerated.
[β]binrobinro9 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
No one wants to hire Kelly, because she creates too much drama wherever she goes.
[β]Fantoche_Dreemurr7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bullshit, Kevin would likely not have debts at all with a paid apprenticeship.
[β]UnRenardRouge4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly could have studied software engineering and makes 120k a year, Kevin could have gotten stuck in a shitty apprenticeship and got hurt and his shitty union health care may not have helped him.
Don't knock college
Source: have a lot of blue collar workers in the family
[β]NoThirst4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
...Kelly:
University educated...but still can't find Canada on a world map, can't explain gravity, can't solve a simple equation, can't tell you the year WW2 started.
[β]unblackmailable4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The overwhelming majority of people (95% I think) don't have a career, they have a job. And that's fine.
You can't prepare for a career. A career is a situation that you naturally move into if you're part of that small number of people and if you're prepared when the opportunity arises.
Only people, like our little Kelly here, believe that they're entitled to a career. A disappointing life is her share.
[β]CiceroVoltaire3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Is doing Kelly's sister FWB.
...and mom.
Also, many places will pay your tuition after you graduate from trade school. So Kevin doesnβt even have any debt.
[β]oldassbass3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I knew one guy who would call blue collar works "all rasict and bigots" yet he's the one with a music degree working minimum wage.
[β]ZekeTheOctopus4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Right now the New York Times is hosting an livestreamed event interviewing female executives at Google and Microsoft about how to make sure Big Tech is removing bias the day after Youtube banned dozens of male creators
[β]Purplmonky2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think I want to go to trade school
[β]civcinco2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly is smarter. She will Mary Kevin and we've all seen how this movie ends
[β]MGTOWManofMystery2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I got a scholarship (decades ago) to a prestigious liberal arts college. Freshman advisor urged me NOT to take Computer Science but focus on a major that was actually HER specialty. I've been doing career damage control ever since. Selfish bitch.
[β]Mr_M0t0m02 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They should have added the bullet point that Kelly takes partially nude and nude selfies every 30 minutes.
[β]deviantsacktap912 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My name is Kevin and I do not give a shit what Kelly thinks
[β]kayfab2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck Kelly she will find the perfect simp even if she is ugly as fuck and skinny
[β]Soldierbosh2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I only went to uni so I could leave home. Mistake, should have got a shit job, then left home.
Nevermind, it wasn't all bad, and my degree got me my first office job. But young dudes, don't go to uni to do a useless degree. Engineering, medicine, law etc, all good. Most of the others, utterly useless.
[β]Shayann91 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
πππ
And Kellyβs major was Gender Roles in Aboriginal Communities.
[β]SpaceCowboy20961 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Most people havenβt the slightest clue that the Tradesmen are the modern day Noblemen, not the white collared pencil pushers.
[β]THEREALISLAND6311 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck, I'm Kelly in this situation smh
Just remember, college debt is a woe-man problem.
Go to a cushy school? They can do that.
Pick a career/school without being told which one?
It's almost like not being told what to do and *still* surviving is what men have done for the human race since its inception..
[β]swiswis1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
- And Kelly goes to "women's march", for more rights, while Kevin works and earns 200$ that same day
[β]king-of-the-light1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Incorrect: you wan't get 70k job after 1 year tech school
[β]ya_boii691 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Lifetime earnings for Kelly will most definitely be higher, so her.
[β]CerberusScourge1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
βPaid off school debt in 3 yearsβ lol. How about the company he works for paid for the schooling anyway so he had no debt to begin with? Shit just looks worse and worse for smart old Kellster.
[β]9mmHero1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly gives kevin pussy , marries him , divorces him takes half his retirement
IDIOT_SAVANT_TINKER
Worked to gain experience in drafting
Went to vo tech to learn AutoCAD, Solidworks, and old style paper drafting
Taught himself Fusion 360, inventor, Revit.
No school debt.
Makes stupid money to draw pictures for a living.
[β]skomes991 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Why is this dumb image even gendered?
Lots of men get 4 year degrees
[β]Stunner9001 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
-Kevin has time to spend with his kids
[β]delibeko1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We are experiencing this problem in Turkey. Every city got universities with a lot of students and we dont have quailified kevinss
[β]NickTesla20181 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly will still expect Kevin to pay for all of their dates.
- Boned all of Kelly's friends. Just, because...
[β]WolfUbuntu1171 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly thinks Kevin is flipping burgers at Burger King While being a McDonalds manager
[β]AdmiralJimEvans1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow 75k...
[β]Electronic_Record1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kevin pays taxes that will bail out Kelly. So....
[β]KyleAlex6151 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or you live in europe and get the best of both worlds...
[β]ThrowawayGhostGuy11 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Woke commies are desperate for a college degree because theyβre bigoted classists who look down on the unwashed masses of mechanics and electricians. The piece of paper for a useless degree is just a class signifier of their aristocratic superiority.
[β]nickolay19861 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I've studied to be a Kelly and couldn't find shit. Now doing a apprenticeship to become Kevin and loving it. Fuck university.
[β]TigPlaze1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kelly could still spread her legs and leech off of Kevin if he's not smart and hasn't gone MGTOW.
[β]BlackWinterShinigami1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They forgot to mention Kevin looks stress-free
[β]FaP_caesar1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kevin is fuckin Redpill Legend.
Hats off to the kevin !!!!
Thankfully, my βboringβ life will lead to at least a starting salary of 70k. Even higher if I bust my ass.
I did the intelligent thing and worked my ass off to go to a good school in my field. Yet my bitch of a friend thinks itβs okay to call me privileged.
She partied, I studied.
[β]jacketguy1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
kelly is a whore with no redeeming qualities π€
[β]Kunaired151 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Kevin saves money, invest in stock market and now is a businessman he owns a company across the globe.
Kelly hit the wall busy searching for beta bucks since she is already retired and did not save money because she waste it too much in make up, surgery and shopping to make herself feel young.
[β]gottunsmitt1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FUCK YOU KELLY!
[β]Starlix1261 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck doing jobs in demand. Do what ever brings you happiness. So many emotionless, soulless idiots stuck in jobs they hate because "it puts food on the table"
[β]RedPillJunky1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Tech or trade school is much better.
[β]Jarin011 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Really unless you want to be a doctor or a lawyer then you are stupid to go to college at all anymore. It might look a little better on a resume to have one but that is about it. About the only value in having a degree anymore is that some employers still look for it but that is becoming less and less of a thing. Most jobs just want people who can do the job now.
[β]thomal461 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More like paid off ALL debts in 3 years... trades are ridiculous.... $$$
[β]ChiTownBob1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This meme is false.
One cannot get a job in the trades without an apprenticeship, and apprenticeships are very difficult to find. So yeah, go to a 1 year tech school in the trades and then wait for an apprenticeship to open up.....and wait.....and wait.....and wait....and wait....
So in reality, Kevin and Kelly are in the same boat.
I would like someone in mgtow to create a career guide to help young mgtow's get a career and be able to retire early.
[β]mgthrowaway21 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But...but...muh PhD in lesbian dance therapy! muh "chase your dreams"!
[β]hakoonamatata91 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
College is the biggest fraud. π
[β]BLOOD_PALADIN1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But βmuh wage gapβ
Hahahaha! Made me laugh and made my day, thanks!
[β]un_stoopid1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Does anyone have the meme that someone added to this, in one of them it shows Kelly divorce raping Kevin, or something like that. Have been looking for that one
Some of my punjabi friends (SINGH as their last names) are doing that already, not gonna go to college or univeristies with 98 genders.
[β]Merc_3050 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha, I don't have a student loan
[β]BetItsAllAboutYou0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What kind of 1 year tech jobs are we walking about here? Iβve been toying around with a career change. 29- divorced after 8 years (finally) and miserable at my current job.
[β]stent000 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I dare you to post this on your FB and watch the female hate pile on... quite comical I might ad...
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I got banned from facebook for exposing female nature anyways.
[β]stent001 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hate Facebook and mainstream feminist society. I just wanna scream. Being red pilled makes you see society totally differently.
[β]JDMdrifter0030 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
tfw you live in europe and dont know how the living fuck education isnt free in a 1st world country
[β]lonewolfsigmamgtow[S] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Agreed , not in EU, not anymore.
[β]Idiot_Savant_Tinker0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
First world country USA
First world country
USA
Pick one.
[β]JDMdrifter0030 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Isnt the us a 1st world country?
[β]BrizzLatency0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So um quick wurstiom what tech school was this? For educational purposes of course
[β]trthorson0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At age 55, Kelly because her body isn't broken from doing a trade profession for her living.
Seriously its great to feel good and about your job and all but this recent pushback (last 10 years) for how good "trade school jobs" are aren't 1) well-informed and 2) are setting some people up for failure
Plus wtf does this have to do with MTGOW
[β]HunterDr0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What if Iβm going to college for a criminal justice degree to be part of ICE/DEA?
[β]Dat_Boi_Named_Noah0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just out of curiosity, what job might that be that's in high demand and only requires 1 year of tech school?
This is bullshit. this isnt related at all the mgtow or gender at all. 0lenty of men suffer from Kelly's point of view as well.
[β]ColonelVirus0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Meh. You don't normally study at uni for a job/future. You go because you enjoy the subject and want to learn more about it, if you can get a job out of it. Awesome. If not... just go into finance and do that as a hobby.
[β]Pandemicc0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
is that some american joke that Im too european to understand?
[β]Deontic_Anti-statist0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Holy shit how expensive was that 1 year course?
Be me. Marry Stacey. Stacey's dad is rich. DGAF about anything any more.
Have fun fixing ACs or whatever the fuck, you cucks. When you know how to give good dick you get to spend the rest of your life fucking and traveling and fucking some more.
So you are a GIGOLO ????
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There is nothing wrong with going to a four year college. Just don't study gender studies or something entirely useless and then expect to get a job. If you get marketable skills from attending college, then the degree is worth it.
[β]ToesShoes-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
IQ wise, Kelly probably is, since it's also scientific fact that most women on average have a higher IQ than men, and she also took a 4 year college class so there is that.
Kevin is probably more smart in terms of knowing what to do and who to go to. Cause if he has a job in high demand, he is free to bargain his wages for better income, so making 75,000 a year is probably his foundation. A couple promotions later and he's got himself a 6 figure salary, maybe even 7 if he is that good at it by then.
That only happens between the age of 8-13. That is the statistics which every woman laments out of nowhere as her final weapon. That stat is clewrly false because after that age, she cannot say the same.
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Who tf would be satisfied with $75k/year?
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Depending on where you live 75k is a lot of money
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No itβs not. I donβt understand the glorification of trade schools. Sure itβs better than going in debt for a bachelors of lesbian dance theory, but working manual labor for $75k is a mediocre living at best
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Lol the fuck? I'll be happy with 50k where I live let alone 75k.
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What??? That thinking is how kelly got in her situation.
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How
People out west I guess
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