About me: I am in my mid 30s, never been married. I have a good career, job that pays well into 6 figures and spent last 10 years exploring my interests mainly in travel and being outdoors. Briefly I did try my hand at online dating, even had two long term relationships (~year). I wanted to share some of my experiences with the group
I am introverted and am mostly work from home so I don’t have a lot of opportunity to meet women. I have few very good friends. Except when I travel, my time and resources revolve mostly around gym, chores, cooking, weekend hiking/camping/skiing trips which makes my chances of meeting women even less.
I might have been a desperate man because of lack of women in my life if not for the following m 1. I am in a relationship with myself 2. My career is very important to me, investing myself really helped me to have a well paying job 2. 3 strikes rule when it comes to dating 2. I love being alone 3. Reading these forums made me realize I always grew up with a redpill as even the thought of marriage never occurred to me in my life and never will 4. I am a simple man. I find true happiness in simple things in like like completing a book, hiking a mountain, walking and getting lost in a new city in a different country, smell of rain etc.. even more than any sex or time I spent with a woman in my life
Online dating: there was a point of time when I used to spend lot of time on Okcupid or POF, always sending out long thoughtful messages with no responses. I know that lot of men also go through same, but I read an article that when asked which ethnicity is least desired, most women (of all ethnicities) consistently ranked Indian men as least attractive and least likely to respond. I know, It was devastating in the beginning but realized I was wasting my time and deleted all my profiles.
Long term Relationship 1: Ended when I realized I didn’t get enough respect from her even though there is love. Like cancelling plans again and again.
Long term relationship 2: ended because she said she has daddy issues and still has feelings for her ex who cheated her out of 20k. She said this to me on the day we were supposed to go on vacation for valentines
Here is where things change. Last few years I realized, yes I like being along, but I do miss intimacy occasionally. I am just a guy with needs. So I started doing what I call sugar dating.
Sugar Dating: Pros- 1. Women don’t expect anything else. They will give you what you want. No surprises or emotional blackmail etc etc.. 2. The whole relationship is going on dates once a week, having good time and not having to deal with any baggage 3. Ordinary guys like me (who can afford) can find attractive women for companionship (yes everything) 4. Because of limited time spent it keeps things fresh
Cons- 1. Easy to get cheated out of money. Have to be careful and be an advocate for yourself. Never promise anything more than you can deliver 2. You have to be watchful of your wallet, credit cards when they come over
I met lot of great women (and some bad ones too) through this. Most of them are not marriage material of course but out of all this woman, there is one who over a time has become someone special to me. She lives in another country and I visit her once a month usually.
If I look back, one that made me realize is the fact that lot of women in US are not usually attracted to Indian women was more of a boon than a curse. It was a shield that protected me and gave me time to become the person I am. You see I am INFJ-A person and very emphatic to people suffering. Without this time and opportunity to learn, I wonder which thot would have taken advantage of me and sucked me dry.
Just last week I went on a 10 day vacation to Finland, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania. Going to China next
Wanted to share my experience with you all
MGTOW
Edit: there are some comments that suggest sugar dating is also a sort of being a cuck or not really MGTOW My arguments against 1. Not MGTOW- I enjoy all aspects of being in a relationship with women minus the cons. It is MGTOW because I don’t get into relationships, women know they cannot string me along as I will find someone else If I want to and more importantly i deny ‘marriage’, the one thing that provides life time insurance for women. So this is my own version of MGTOW
- For people who say this paying is being a cuck or slave.. have you done this before? In reality my brothers, having money and supporting a woman is holding ultimate power on her. It is turning tables against women. I agree it is not for everyone besides in the city I live going on a date costs usually $150. Compare that to $1000 a month with getting my pussy fix and no expectations in return
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