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Dating sites are nothing more than beta-male catalogues

March 11, 2018

I refer to a post I made in TRP in response to a hilarious story of hypergamy played out with an unlucky guy called Billy who has no idea his engagement is about to disappear like a puff of smoke.

Indeed that is all true, but Billy is in the vast majority of guys rather than the minority. This is why the other guy is so notable. If she's smart she won't burn the Billy bridge entirely (i.e. fuck the other guy in secret).

But if it does go south then server girl can hop on Plenty of Landwhales or OkSinglemom or Matchacatlady.com tomorrow and get five more solid prospects just like Billy in the first 24 hours.

All she has to do is reciprocate. Guys on these sites are so deprived of female attention in general that they'll jump on anything, especially if she's good looking.

Try doing a fake signup as a girl on one of these sites. Instant message abundance. There's a lot of garbage but if you click through to some guys' profiles there are doctors, engineers, and devs in there on good salaries like Billy. All she has to do is reciprocate.

Dating sites for girls nowadays are beta catalogues. Pick out a nice looking beta, pay with some duty sex.

I quote my post and embolden the point below because this shit is important for men nowadays, and I want to make you aware of the example in that TRP post.

Girls will leave a solid bet for lifetime commitment in favour of tingles, if they have backing from their social group. Every time. Hypergamy doesn't care about the expensive ring you bought her.

Further to that point, remember this:

Dating sites for girls nowadays are beta catalogues. Pick out a nice looking beta, pay with some duty sex.

The takeaway for you being that online dating is currently heavily stacked against you as a man.

This is MGTOW after all and whether or not you choose to engage is your decision. But online dating is more often than not a fundamentally bad proposition that inherently and inaccurately deflates your value.

But recognise that if you choose to dip your toe back into the dating pool, you must be well-muscled and willing to get in touch with your inner asshole a bit to not get lost in the sea of beta males.

Every online date I've met in person has always acted embarrassed, only to later tell me they're surprised at how attractive I am. This isn't to brag, this is to show you how much these platforms devalue us and turn us into a commodity to pick out in a catalogue.

I hope and pray, though, that you are getting well-muscled and more authoritative for yourself and not for any one girl.

AWALT. Hypergamy plays out every time. You are, in many cases, better of hard-rejecting the girl and not letting any woman play you for your all-too-gladly-offered commitment and resources.

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Title Dating sites are nothing more than beta-male catalogues
Author newls
Upvotes 57
Comments 10
Date March 11, 2018 10:24 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit /r/MGTOW
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/dating-sites-are-nothing-more-than-beta-male.582874
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/83lz97/dating_sites_are_nothing_more_than_betamale/

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Solid post. It sounds as if you have personal experience and learned the hard way like others.

online dating is more often than not a fundamentally bad proposition that inherently and inaccurately deflates your value

I've often thought of these sites as flea markets or like having to be a scavenger - unless you're exceptional and have an advantage it's a tremendous investment of time and effort for little to no assurance of any return that's worthwhile.

I've noticed that the guys who aren't necessarily high SMV but have good game and did well with women often did so with day game, not on these sites normally.

I've heard them say these sites are often just a waste of time and how lopsided the dating market is against men.

The entitlement, amount of single moms (and arrogant ones I might add!), obesity, and flaking I experienced myself was a huge discouragement. So I see exactly what you mean.

[–]newls[S] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You're especially right in your last point. It's discouraging when you know you are competing with a torrent of other guys. Slip up once and you get ghosted in favour of a better (read: new) prospect.

Girls know they can play the coquette and exercise a society-backed form of female plate theory and sample multiple prospects.

The response, if we are choosing to engage in the dating market at all, is to exercise male plate theory and judicially give attention to the best of our multiple female prospects.

[–]TryDoingSomethingNew0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Slip up once and you get ghosted in favour of a better

I saw this constantly happen even when I was doing well. When the next "shiny object" (guy) comes along you're done. She'll flake and disappear.

If it's not advantageous for a man, I don't see how pursuing a woman is a rational decision at all.

I just somewhat got burned out from it. After going through great effort and constantly trying hard only to be met with bitchiness and dysfunctional behavior from women with personality disorders (which is VERY common now!!) I'm just exhausted from it.

It is sad to sit at home and be alone at times, but honestly I'm content and not stressed out and constantly regretting the time & money I would have wasted chasing women otherwise.

Also I'm very productive at working on my goals/side projects etc. I gain a feeling of contentment when I see what I've accomplished and skills I wouldn't have had otherwise I have now gained.

[–]newls[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Dude, are you me? Haha.

I need to take breaks from it quite often. I think the lesson is not to get too emotionally involved.

As men the true test is how we cope with being alone. Independence is a great thing to have and something we should capitalise on for the short time we have it.

Loneliness is not an ideal state, humans are social creatures and there's no denying that. I think a better way is to seek more friends and dates through real-life social groups, clubs, and gatherings.

I am starting groups of my own this year and I strongly predict that as a founding leader of these groups I will have a strong effect on the women who attend. De facto and de jure social proof.

[–]didiflex1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Does anyone know ratio men and women on tinder, i estimate there are about 2-4 men for 1 woman which is heaven for women

To get something i need to aim 3+ points below my level, women my level dont even consider me and im being objective

[–]newls[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd imagine it's high but it's not even the ratio itself that causes the valuation inflation/deflation.

It's that men are the natural initiators, and there are enough of them in relation to the women to mean that there is an overwhelming gender disparity in who sends whom messages, and thus whose valuation is artificially changed.

[–]hardtostarboard20160 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's true. Dating sites are the places post-wall creatures go when they can no longer "find a good man" in the real world. Always the online dating beta bux idiots waiting at the end of the rainbow.

[–]Ketsa0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

And never forget Ashley Madison leak...

"her conclusion that there were few females active on the site had actually been based on data recording "bot" activities in contacting members. She notes that "we have absolutely no data recording human activity at all in the Ashley Madison database dump from Impact Team. All we can see is when fake humans contacted real ones."

[–]INeedHelpINeedDaWey0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I honestly hate “”””dating”””” apps/websites. It’s mainly just dudes trying to get laid, and bitches who won’t spread em (unless you’re like a male model or famous or something) they’re usually a waste of time.

[–]stringedbeams0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

where are the places to meet women besides bars

just like anywhere random out in public?

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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