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A former MGTOW complains about us.
[–]DangZagnut2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
43 year old male here, I have done well in some areas of life and perhaps not so well in others. For much of my life, going back to my teenage years, I was never successful with women. It wasn't that I was particularly ugly or undesireable, I just didn't really try. At the time I thought it was too much work I suppose. I've read books and seen documentaries about other "loner" types, and a lot of them go through a phase and move on from it later. Maybe I was destined to do that, maybe not.
O.k., if you've never been successful with women, that doesn't disqualify one self from doing what they want, but we'll quickly see this is an i.nc3l and not MGTOW.
I did, however, develop a porn addiction that I haven't worked hard enough to eliminate from my life. This escalated throughout the 2000s to the point where by the end of the decade I was regularly making visits to escorts along with marathon porn sessions that would last for hours on end. At the time I realised I needed to change, as I wasn't happy living this way. However, there were a couple of things that kept me stuck in that particular groove. Firstly, there were other aspect of my life (career, travel, physical health etc) that were going well or at least not too badly, so there was less incentive to change. For another thing, I started reading TRP content and listening to Tom Leykis.
O.k. If you have a "porn addiction" you've got mental problems. If you're an i.nc3l you've got mental problems. If you can't stop looking at porn, and I don't mean to offend anyone, to the point it's somehow causing you a life problem, you have a mental problem.
Oh noes! He read things and learned things! Apparently not enough to stop paying for porn (if you pay for porn, at this point, you have a mental problem and never bitch about how you don't get paid enough or can't afford something).
I started to think that eschewing women in favour of porn and escorts was the better option.
It is, if women are adding something to your life, by definition you are not a complete human being. Like this pussy worshipper.
I mean, use porn or prostitutes, it's better than getting married, but if you're going to go feel bad about it, you're once again, an i.nc3l with mental problems.
After all, why would I waste my time with real women when I could just satisfy my sex drive through synthetic means and avoid what I considered the risks associated with a relationship (i.e heartbreak, financial ruin etc). I even found myself spouting off MGTOW rhetoric to family and friends, despite the fact that my actual experience of relationships was precisely zero. For probably a decade I stagnated in this area, listening to reruns of the same old Tom Leykis shows, reading MGTOW material online.
How much MGTOW material do you need to read every day? This isn't like a drug treatment center where you need daily therapy. Isn't it mostly avoiding commitment to women who give nothing back in return? And recognizing that marriage is a shitty government contract designed to fuck the man over? And relationships are mostly about benefitting her and not you and maybe you get some crumbs from her vagina now and then?
How hard is it to figure out?
And he "stagnated"? He must not have been reading the parts to better himself, and spent 15 hours a day paying for porn like a financially dominated submissive.
No relationships? I.nc3l. So he's just a shill equating MGTOW with i.nc3ls. Propaganda max.
Eventually my escalating porn use caused problems in my life,
Mental disorder and arrested for solicitation I'm guessing.
things I won't discuss here,
molesting children
but I started to realise I couldn't keep ignoring this problem or deluding myself any longer. Around this time I also discovered TRP. Not a good thing to mix with MGTOW.
Well TRP is about simping and worshipping pussy, so how it would fit I don't know. Also. Not MGTOW unless you're of the pump n' dump posse.
Now I was really filling my head with a lot of "men are oppressed", "The Left is trying to destroy men" bullshit. To be fair, TRP did have some solid advice that would have helped me a lot (i.e. drop the porn and work on yourself), but this stuff was largely just common sense anyway.
That's MRA shit, and i.nc3l shit, and trad cuck shit. Nothing in MGTOW says men are "oppressed". One is free to believe that or belong to groups who believe that, but I highly doubt you could find too many MGTOW that wants to become a woman.
My awakening
cucking and simping
really started in 2018 when a couple of positive things happened. For one thing, when I was travelling I met a very nice young woman who seemed to find me attractive and wanted to spend more time with me.
And one slip on a banana peel, a BJ, and he's finally on the plantation. Good simp. Here's a cookie.
This is what happen when an i.nc3l finally gets some.
Unfortunately she lives on the other side of the world and is roughly half my age.
Ukrainian prostitute bleeding you dry? Or Thai "girlfriend" who you give a little money to and you're a white status symbol and she's got 5 other guys she's a "girlfriend" too?
We stayed in touch for a while, but contact gradually fell off as one would expect with long distance situations where there is a large age gap.
A large age gap, and simping? Hmm...homey got played, big time, but as always, MGTOW is at fault somehow?
She'll find someone her own age from her own country, and she'll do so with my blessing. It gave me a lot of confidence that I can make that aspect of my life work, however.
"with my blessing". O.k. dad. Hope that makes you feel in control.
It gave me a lot of confidence that I can make that aspect of my life work, however.
You fucked an underage prostitute and this gave you "confidence"? Bro, you no MGTOW bro. You simp i.nc3l into tranny porn. Stop frontin' "bro".
The practical upshot of that situation is that I'm starting to wake up to the MGTOW bullshit I've been stuffing my mind with.
I'm pretty sure we would have called you a pussy worshipping i.nc3l and said its your life but you'll be back on the plantation (for the first time) but we'll be here with free drinks when you come limping back.
Someone on this sub put it brilliantly
No one on that subreddit is brilliant
when they said "MGTOW is like a bunch of kids taking their ball home, then looking out the window to see if anyone notices".
Yeah. I sure do give a shit what my exes think about this. My last lover knew me when I was a mod here and would read my posts. I'm not taking my ball and going home because I want some dumb feminists to pay attention.
Of course, these high IQ people have to say that, because it seems we're growing at about 50x the rate of the stupid virus. Narrative must be maintained.
I even asked the question on a MGTOW sub reddit as to why MGTOW seems to be such a pity party all the time, and why there is so much focus on women if these guys are, in fact, going their own way.
So you were just another troll? I used to remove your posts by the hundreds. It's always the same thing, some fake MGTOW comes and asks i.nc3l nonsense and get banned, then whines about it.
Is there a pity party? Once again, i.nc3l propaganda. I've seen trad cucks who worship pussy lament the loss of their princess virgins, and memes about Arbys. And those are pretty sad, but is there really that much lamenting? It must be in posts I miss, and since I post on everything, I must really not being paying attention.
The responses I got made me question whether I really want to live like that. I don't hate women, nor do I want to judge an entire gender by the opinion of some guy on youtube who may or may not know what the fuck he is talking about.
No you were banned because you were cucking and white knighting and masturbating to your porn addition after your underage romp in SE Asia or Bulgaria or wherever the fuck you were raping children.
Freak.
judge an entire gender by the opinion of some guy on youtube who may or may not know what the fuck he is talking about.
Well by your own admission you have no relationship experience, so what the fuck would you know i.nc3l?
So today I have made a decision. For the remainder of this year I'm going to take an extended break from both porn and MGTOW content.
Well since you claim you last were here in 2018 then I assume you're just making shit up? Apparently porn is easy to break, underage children not so much. You know for ex-MGTOW you sure don't seem to be able to go your own way from it. I wonder why that is?
This will not be easy,
Well first you gotta stop touching kids. Then you need to find some single mother to wife up and get a prebuilt plantation. Then you need to update facebook with a status on how much you love cucking for my kids.
I've tried to quit porn before and failed.
How shocking. I don't blame you, unless you're a super-cuck you at least can get it for free.
However, it's time I experienced living by a different narrative for a while.
Narrative eh? So the narrative of "here's a bunch of ideas as to why marriage is a silly idea" and "cohabitation can lead you to legal problems", and the rest of those craaaaaazzy ideas.
If I see a meme I don't like, I just move on. Jesus.
I figure that the crutches of porn and MGTOW will still be around in, say, two years if I decide that trying to live differently doesn't work out.
MGTOW leaves the light on and porn isn't going anywhere. Enjoy quarantine with free PornHub premium.
But you're being a simp son. And a cuck. And don't touch children. You think the feminists there actually give a shit about you?
Well, everyone should experience plantation fun. I'm sure black people sure miss slavery and want to try it out if they didn't get to experience it.
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