If you've heard Jordan Peterson talk about Hero stories...

XGHOW · 2021-01-13T08:03:32+00:00

Great question. I don’t have a good answer, but the thought that came to mine first is that we are in such an Unprecedented time, that our hero has not existed yet. However, because we are the most informed populace in the history of the planet, we have the benefit of assembling our own archetypal figures from the puzzle pieces of history.

Strive to be your own hero. That is MGTOW.

RunawayGrain · 2021-01-13T16:11:31+00:00

So what's the contemporary archetypal male hero story?

It's becoming Captain Nemo to some extent. Find an out from society, and dwell there free from laws and restrictions. Maybe occasionally give the rotten undersides a good kick. But mostly remaining "Mobilis in mobili." For some it's just holing up with video games and having little outside interaction, for some it's cutting ties and moving to other countries, and some are just going off the grid. 'Society sucks and I want an out with true freedom' is pretty timeless for men.

U-94 · 2021-01-13T11:53:23+00:00

Ernest Hemingway. Probably the same road Peterson is going down too.

Ghost_Boy24 · 2021-01-13T16:45:50+00:00

I think there are multiple archetypal male hero story types, not one that generalized them all. Traditional, masculinity is the broad blanket for an archetypal male hero.

King, warrior, magician, lover, are the main focal points of Carl Jung’s teachings and what he categorized as mature masculinity.

You have to look at male role models and hero’s on a more personal viewpoint, and choose which hero fits best in aligning with your beliefs. Personally, I follow the warrior and lover categories, and look at hero’s such as The Russian Bogatyrs.

sapereAudeZ · 2021-01-13T18:46:50+00:00

To help a Mary Sue discover her true power.

Flojtlasse · 2021-01-14T16:28:49+00:00

As a man, i think the best hero stories are those where a man. That through sheer will and brute force goes against odds and power. To achieve what they truly care or are passionate about.

The traditional male hero usually starts as a nobody and has to learn how to become a man. After that he gets an opportunity that leads to greatness.

The typical female version usually start out with them already being great and feminin. Everyone around her is just an ignorant asshole or they are just holding her status and femininity back.

During the story the female does x and y to show her status and femininity, making the people around her aware of it. The female fantasy usually ends with everyone finally acknowledging her greatness and that she was right from the beginning.

In short, both men and women want to be great in the eyes of others. Usually by being feminin or masculine. Women has it and men wants to make it.

Just like in real life. Women starts at their best and she thinks her family is holding her back. Men starts at the bottom and has to work their way up to become amazing.

An opportunity arise in life and if you take it. You may struggle and become great.

The hero stories caters to our fantasies. A lot of stories use masculine or feminin traits in order to reach their goal. But those are just tools that can be replaced by anything that is realistically available to our hero.

The hero stories spend most of its time on guiding us a through struggles and failures. All in order to tell us how they accomplished their goals. They use realistic weaknesses that applies in real life. Like a female hero who seduce the villain in order to backstab him. She may lure him out and set him up, all in order to show everyone around how bad he is.

The male hero may physically train several years in order to achieve the strength to take his foe down. If that fails then they fall back to logic and use a universal weakness in order to defeat their foe. It can be a physical trap, taking out the EYES or striking the Achilles' heel.

No matter how unrealistic the hero stories may be, your mind is still paying attention. Because there is underlying truth and logic behind their actions that draws us in. The hero stories guide the reader like a parent guides it child. There's no coincident that they cater to kids. The stories are a great tool for parents to teach their children. Adults are more selective in their learning process and may filter away anything they deem unnecessary.

No one truly knows what the world is capable of. Monsters in a fantasy world does not seem so strange if you think about modern bioengineering... What usually break immersion in hero stories are characters actions. If they are unreasonable then the mind starts filtering away everything as garbage. Just like modern movies that fail at cinema.

The alluring aspect of a good hero story boils down to observing our heroes. The world they live in my be fake. But the heroes emotions, struggles and actions that gave them such a glorious moment are worth to remember. Just like we want the world to remember ours.

AriaEarthMars · 2021-01-13T08:39:05+00:00

Elon Musk, engineer billionaire, and not a fantasy.

Title	If you've heard Jordan Peterson talk about Hero stories...
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Date	January 13, 2021 4:16 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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