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Just got back from a wedding and noticed some telling body language.

ManIsWalking
April 15, 2018
216 upvotes
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The bride kept closing her eyes during every line of her vows. Maybe I'm reading into it a bit, but I know that when I personally lie, I have a habit of looking away or closing my eyes. And I don't even mean she was blinking, she was straight keeping her eyes shut during every line of her vows. If she wasn't saying shit, she was staring the groom in the face. But when it came to her part of the vows, couldn't look her new husband in the eyes.

Oh well, RIP anyways. Hit F for another downed soldier.

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Title Just got back from a wedding and noticed some telling body language.
Author ManIsWalking
Upvotes 216
Comments 80
Date April 15, 2018 5:44 AM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit /r/MGTOW
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Comments

[–]Mgtow_Maester100 points101 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

I think you're spot on. Usually women are flawless well-practised liars but sometimes the truth leaks out their body.

And if you ever mentioned it, all the thots would be defending her afterwards:

Jeez, she's just nervous. This is the most important day in her life and people do strange things when they're that emotional. Gawd!

[–]sweettenderhotjuicy11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Strange things like cheat and lie?

[–]xstalpha7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

if she cheated it was because he couldnt keep her happy!

[–]sweettenderhotjuicy1 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Maybe she wasn't happy to begin with and she's wasting everyone's time?

[–]xstalpha8 points9 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are incapable of happiness

[–]funinsun102 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That was awesome dear, but that was yesterday

[–][deleted] 70 points71 points  (22 children) | Copy Link

Yep. I believe it. It's painfully common for women to marry/date/fuck men they don't have genuine feelings for. This is a significant factor behind a HUGE range of relationship problems - high divorce rates, cheating, sexless marriage, resentment, game playing, constant nagging, lack of affection, flakiness, demanding/high-maintenance behavior, etc.

[–]rationalthought31429 points30 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

It's painfully common for women to marry/date/fuck men they don't have genuine feelings for.

Yeah women will rope a guy into marriage whom they don't even love which will be their reason for cheating and/or divorce. They'll get married because all their friends are getting married and they feel time is ticking down but down the road the marriage will most likely fail because she never loved the guy and her contempt will manifest in constant nagging and weight gain.

[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Exactly. Most of women's bad behavior in relationships is simply their lack of sexual attraction revealing itself. Playing "dread game" might force her into obligated compliance, but it will never trigger genuine sexual attraction. The assumption otherwise is a dangerous error the redpill/pua community makes. They're just asking to get oops'ed, metoo'ed, or sodomized by her divorce lawyer.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

whats dread game lol

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Manipulating the situation to trigger a woman's fear of losing the relationship. One example would be making her believe you have other options. Googling the words "dread game" should pull up some pages that can explain it better than I could. It's a VERY popular teaching in the redpill community. Personally, I don't recommend putting too much faith in them. Attraction is far simpler and less convoluted than they want to believe.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

cannot agree more. they call us shallow, but at least i know i want to marry a pretty girl so i know i don't get bored of fucking her. although honestly i don't want any girl now.

but at least my feelings are genuine. see SOO many girls that marry because they feel thew all coming and its time to clamp down. good thing is those marriages used to last for 50 years of pain, nowadays these witches show their hand after just 1-2 years. facebook and online ego boosting has made them impatient of any true beta orbiter which makes the false feelings game harder for them.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Good point. I never thought of that. Yeah, you're right, they ARE showing their hand more quickly these days. Works out better for the guys. Better they find out early that she's a settling whore, and leave before getting too invested in that "relationship".

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

it's weird, its so instinctual on their part. to simply hate shitty genetics. i get it. but they are so fucking cruel as a result. i've rare to meet many women that i'd call compassionate in any way.

but yeah, most girls i know get 3 months into a relationship and are already on instagram whoring out ass pictures and sad quotes showing how much their pussy is yearning for a 12 person gangbang. they just can't help the need to find and breed with tons of high level genetic material. sad thing is all the hormones and self identity makes for some crazy ass bitches.

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are culturally socialized from a very young age to hide their true sexuality from the "non-chads". Female attraction has 2 faces - real sexual attraction (for chad), and the materialistic, fake "less visual" act (for her beta provider). Many women value commitment/security more than love, so they have to keep up the facade, otherwise the beta males wouldn't commit to them, AND they'd lose their beta orbiters. You're right, btw. This situation, where they're being emotionally pulled in opposite directions, is the main cause of their crazy/neurotic behavior. Their sex drive wants "Chad", but FEAR and INSECURITY about their future makes them prostitute themselves to "Poindexter".

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

ya, i'm glad i'm not a woman. men just need to cum. even when we can't mate, we're dirty tree monkeys that will just jack off and fuck a pie. whatever. as long as we can fulfill that, we're fine. no real mental blocks as long as guy gets some good cums.

women are just a fucking pandora's box of issues. biggest issue is they know they are depreciating goods soon to be old and gross but they feel that need to mate with high level sperm until age 40-45, so their brains literally blow a fuse trying to justify what age they can push the CC days to. modern girls are a perversion of that as they've pushed it past age 30, where no really pretty woman exists. 26 is leftover in asia. nowadays these 40 year old cunts think they are 18 because they are good at makeup and wear marc jacobs.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

whore

My virginity question is still relevant until today.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Maybe "glorified escort" would be a more fitting description. Expects to be compensated for her company even though no sexual activity takes place. The real problem is the double standard, where such compensation typically isn't required when she's actually attracted to the guy.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yep. No love for betas.

[–]RubixCubeDonut1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

they call us shallow

This is simply projection on their part. Everything bad that women say about men seems to be projection.

[–]M26PershingTank6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I see it like this. If a man is dumb enough to get married these days, then he'll have to pay the price.

He doesn't see all the bullshit men go through with these bitches? That's his problem and it's a big one.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

A lot of men have simply been culturally gaslighted into ignorance and need to be deprogrammed. The media, intelligent women and the feminazis go to great lengths to explain away the realities we know about, and many otherwise-intelligent men fall for it. Thanks to the dumb ones posting on social media and online dating sites, some are waking up, but it's still not enough for the more heavily conditioned/socialized guys. For them, it's gonna take a bad marriage and some hard butt fucking from an ex wife. As for the guys who go back to the plantation after that? They're hopeless.

[–]Sir_manalot0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Give it a generation or two more, then the stupidity will stop.

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

They just want an instagram day.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women's reasons to marry:

  • fear to be alone ('till death).

  • pre-menopausal baby rabies.

  • social pressure (i.e. fear to be called 'old maid'/'spinster')

  • financial reason.

[–]FalsePositiveRethink1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Weirdest experience I've ever had was going out with a woman who wanted to see me every Saturday night but who otherwise showed no interest in me. After two months of getting nowhere I gave up and stopped contacting her, just giving non-commital answers to her messages. Two weeks of this and she came to my house and showed interest. I couldn't work it out - I was blue pilled then - and she was a nasty bitch of a woman anyway so I dumped her a few days later. My guess is she just wanted to marry a beta bucks. Glad I dodged that bullet.

[–]terminator61226 points27 points  (19 children) | Copy Link

F

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]Docbear6415 points16 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

F

[–][deleted] 12 points13 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]MattFoley7913 points14 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]John-ozil10 points11 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]ArtoriusXv2 points3 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

F

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]tradcuckhater2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]weaklion13 points14 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hmm, interesting, I sometimes close my eyes when I want to concentrate in a discussion (and maybe while I say something), not because I want to lie.

Basically, it feels like shutting off external visual stimuli to spent less effort processing those and having more energy left to concentrate on the issue.

But lying might also be something that needs more concentration and effort, so maybe that's why she closed her eyes?

Just wondering, I don't know whether there are (believable!) studies into this.

[–]FrostyGoingHisOwnWay12 points13 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I've refused to attend weddings of my friends as I don't want any part of them becoming legally and financially trapped like that. I think it's important that while we don't proselytize MGTOW to other people that we still stick to what we believe.

[–]AngryDeer15 points16 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Sorry but I will go to my best friends wedding despite me not necessarily supporting it. You can still have your beliefs without being a weird ass and let your friend down. Sure, there’s a good chance he’s letting himself down but what difference does it make if you’re there or not?

[–]FrostyGoingHisOwnWay6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

It's what's called a performative contradiction. You either support marriage and think it's a good idea or you do not. If you genuinely believe it's a problem then you wouldn't support your best friend getting married, if you care about your friends at all.

Many MGTOW are (in my opinion, correctly) cautious about pushing their beliefs onto others, going your own way is something you do individually as a man, pressuring other people into doing something is antithetical to MGTOW. However it doesn't mean you should show support for marriage because it's convenient and it upsets the feelings of some people, that's just cowardly.

[–][deleted] 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I wouldn’t attend any wedding via family or friends. Saved travel costs and vacation time from work. Besides, I’m sure he has another best man lined up anyway.

[–]AngryDeer1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Now I don’t know about being best man.

[–]frodevil1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

One of the saddest posts I've ever read lmfao

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

But, I suggest you to attend the reception - because of free meals & drinks.

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What I learn today from you guys: Attraction isn't a choice.

[–]Stevesie111 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Not at all.. do you think big fat ass dudes aren’t STILL attracted to sexy bikini model-esque women? Do you think their big fat blue ribbon winning hog wives aren’t STILL attracted to the Calvin Klein underwater models? Of course they are... problem is they had to settle for each other (for whatever reason).

[–][deleted] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Another one bites the dust.

[–]BLUEUPTON4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]deathtocontrollers5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

When she was saying her vows, she was looking forward to the future divorce rape after all the cheating.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In bride's mind: "I want this. This is what I have been working for. He and his assets will be mine. He's trapped now. I won. Just get through the vows and follow the plan."

[–]Mr_M0t0m01 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's crazy! I bet you she was probably 1 of the biggest bridezillas on Earth leading up to that event too.

[–]the_unseen_one1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

F

Hard to feel bad for them at this point.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I don't really have any tells that I'm lying, for me it feels like a normal part of the conversation. I don't even think about it anymore, I guess I'm a "pathological liar" or whatever.

I can almost always tell when someone is lying:

  1. They talk less confidently and physically pull away from you.

  2. They break eye contact and look diagonally towards the floor, or if they're really bad straight down.

  3. They talk like they're trying to justify themselves (this one is big), they're so afraid of being caught lying they try way harder than usual to get you to believe them.

Women are good liars, but they do this way more than most people. It's easy to tell if you know what to look for.

[–]TheRedPrince991 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

She was thinking about the end of her Chad days.

[–]BobRoss09020 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

F

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

was she gonna hit the wall? or was she post wall?

[–]ManIsWalking[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Post wall mid 30s single mother

[–]MethaCat0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

F, see you soon brother.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

F

[–]48LawsOfFlour0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Maybe I'm reading into it a bit, but I know that when I personally lie, I have a habit of looking away or closing my eyes.

Yeah, you're reading into it too much. Lying and reciting vows bring about similar behaviors because they're both recalling a script, and not the events/feelings themselves.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I would've loved to call it off then and there.

[–]NotMyWomen0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

70-80% of communication between humans is non verbal.

Eyes closed while speaking to someone signifies unease or anxiety.

Benefit of the doubt: she was nervous in front of people.

Truth: she’s a two dollar whore already pregnant with Lahqueek or LaRon’s bastard kid.

[–]shit-zen-giggles0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just to play the devil's advocate: It could also have been a measure to prevent tearing up.

[–]ManIsWalking[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'd believe that if it looked like she was about to cry.

[–]magx010 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Might be right but it could also be her just doing that chick thing where they try and force a "moment." Tying to maximize the emotional bs

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