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[–]SamCasey9821 points22 points23 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Partner to a man is people that share responsibility and obligations. Partner to a woman is a person who is obligated to meet her needs.
[–]EyeCantSeeIt0 points1 point2 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
So any way around this? Because she means alot to me, but thinking long term I'm not sure if it's gonna be worth it at all.
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[–]ZeroBlink10 points11 points12 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Masturbation is Key for thinking power , I can confirm OP.
[–]guo2kao314 points15 points16 points 7 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
Because you and her have different values... You: Want to share the burden with equal responsibilities. Her: "Real" men support their women and carry all the financial burdens. However, don't confront her about it because she won't admit it.
Sometimes she uses the "I'm your girlfriend you should be able to do this for me" and I asked her why that mattered when she wanted something but when it was the other way around then she feels awkward. Makes zero sense to me.
[–]iamanarci12 points13 points14 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stop going out as much, cut down by half. You save money and you get to keep her. If she insists, say it upfront, that you can't afford or don't have cash. Alternatively, do things that don't need spending.
A question to yourself is, will she be with you the day you don't have any money to provide?
[–]rtmlex8 points9 points10 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Brother, do not even consider being married to her, don't even carry on with the relationship. It's not because we're bitter snd jealous of you, but I myself almost married a shrew like this and it was horrible. I was in love and couldn't see any of her flaws. I paid and did everything. And the fun part? She made twice as much as me at that time.
[–]gods_bones6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What's your dating history during the past 6 years? When you go out together, have you always paid for everything/more than half since the beginning? If so, that has fostered an unhealthy dependence.
If she started expecting you to pay recently, then that is a big red flag. Many women have the attitude that, for the most part, what's hers is hers and what's yours is ours. This extends from expecting you to pay for all the dates, buy the house with mostly your money after you marry, have an expensive wedding, perhaps work more than 1 job especially after the kids are born, etc. Meanwhile her job will cover her expenses, a small portion of the bills, and any extra expenses for the children that you can't pay for.
If you really plan to marry her, be careful of who is earning more, who works more hours, who pays most of the bills, etc. Never agree to an extra job. Women always plan to divorce when they look impoverished on paper. After giving birth, she might quit her job to be stay at home mom. Or she might only keep a part time job after the wedding. When you divorce, it will look as if she has no money to support herself and the kids, and you will be ordered to pay a huge alimony and child support settlement. If you work 2 jobs, you may be liable to pay more to maintain her standard of living. If you are responsible for paying most of the mortgage the debt will transfer to you. You will be too busy trying to earn money to see your children and that's how they grow up thinking you abandoned the family.
Be very careful. Having money issues before even getting engaged is a huge red flag for future behavior.
[–]Shimakaze46 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you've read the comments here and had a look around this thread, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED.
[–]doubleecho885 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women want equality, but to them it means all the benefits but none of the responsibilities. You're seeing a clear example of modern feminism right before your eyes.
Do not marry this woman
[–]Goaliej6 points7 points8 points 7 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
First off, congratulations! You are lucky that you are "waking up" at 22. I didn't start waking up until I was 42. Marriage? Ask yourself: what's in it for me? And be honest in what your answers, if any other than "too much risk and too little reward", are. The last woman I dated lasted 6.5 years. I consider the expiration date for a good relationship to be 7 years. But my financial contributions to the relationship compared with hers was 90% to her 10%. I brought this up and she said "relationships aren't always 50-50". I could have gone for 60% from me to 40% from her, but that was not going to happen. Please, 1. Research the cons of marriage vs. the pros of marriage. Consider taking marriage off the table. You have too much to lose. 2. Keep building your career and saving money. 3. Control the birth. When you have sex, use a condom and make sure the condom is flushed down the toilet so she can't sperm jack you. This happens more than you realize! 4. Make yourself happy in way that won't diminish your freedom. Basing your happiness on women really limits your freedom. Good luck. I wish I had known all of this wisdom at 22! You are so lucky. Now don't blow it.
[–]pillulerouge22 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
You came to the wrong thread brother but since you are a still young man let me give you some advice. Eventually you will have to decide what you rethink your value system. Pussy or Male sovereignty. As someone in the thread has suggested, take away her physical beauty and the sex she gives you and tell me if you would tolerate such kind of behavior from a man, let alone your relative.
[–]scotFree661 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pussy or Male (ie your) sovereignty
That sums it up in so few words. Have an upvote!
[–]a17c81a35 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women aren't partners. They are whores for rent or sex buddies if you're cute. Of course she doesn't want to pay.
Try to fake an illness or depression she will be gone before you even get half way through your act.
[–]Bakedhawm5 points6 points7 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Me and my friend have come to a conclusion. Put yourself though a test.
Takeaway her pussy, tits, ass and everything that is physically attractive. Now tell us if she's cute, charming, interesting?
And don't be blinded... I recently just broke up with my gf of 5 years. And let me tell you I was corrupted by that thing. Mr being me, I end things on good terms, however now that i am over the cunt, she is as dull as a plank of wood with a wet hole...
[–]dirtydog1133 points4 points5 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just refuse to go out and do anything bud.If stuff is costing you money that you dont have or cant afford , stop doing it.look for free stuff to do .Hiking , beach , .. I even took a girl on a people spotting date , the first one to spot a dwarf won.It cost me maybe a milkshake from the shop.If she thinks doing things with you needs to cost money , there's a red flag right there,As a student , you both need to concentrate on school ,not bull shit like this
[–]rthrtjerjerjerj2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Dude, if you really feel like marrying her, then at least do yourself a big favor and make sure she knows that you don't care about her expectations and her shaming bullshit doesn't bother you.
You're not even married yet, no kids, nothing and she's making you dramas about not providing and supporting her? WTF, dude.
[–]Malefics2 points3 points4 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You're her beta bucks. I wouldn't be surprised if you've had a feeling that she was cheating on you couple times in the past.
[–]Agamand1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think you are in the wrong subreddit.
This is Men Going Thier Own Way. You're trying to go the way as a couple. While actually, my friend, going her way.
[–]soelc31 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is not a relationship advice forum.
[–]ManIsWalking1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A common woman mantra "what's mine is mine, and what's his is mine."
She doesn't want to spend money on the two of you because in her head that's your responsibility. I'd think twice about marriage because this is what you'll be getting... only more so.
[–]EyeCantSeeIt1 point2 points3 points 7 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I want to say thanks to everyone who replied to this post. I actually chose to post this on MGTOW thread to hear what your thoughts are, not interested in asking a bunch of married couples who are cucked for life. I'm greatful for all the advice and will think long and hard before making such a decision.
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