Men's Testosterone levels in the US have dropped by 30% since 1987. Why is this not a bigger issue? (r/AskMen's Female Mod disabled the comments of this post, so its here)

drqxx · 2018-06-01T10:44:06+00:00

38 year old fit male here. I've done TRT (tess prescribed by a licensed doctor) Best thing that ever happened to me. Its like liquid confidence, removes the brain fog and allows my energy levels to return.

I try and tell all my older friends about it.

This is super important for all of us men to have a healthy level of Tess.

Bilbo_T_Baggins_OMG · 2018-06-01T13:46:03+00:00

Because most people are fat (roughly 75% of both men and women in the US are fat, per the CDC). Being fat causes men to make more estrogen and women to make more testosterone. It's not particularly complicated.

Ruby-xy · 2018-06-01T09:51:47+00:00

There are also no threats/dangers or struggles in the current world we live in. Food is guaranteed, we have no predators, no natural disasters to worry about. The main tasks that the nature intended men to deal with is gone. Men feel like they have no purpose, and therefor the testosterone level is reduced. That is my hypothesis.

Also sugar is bad.

SerialMansplainer · 2018-06-01T14:12:43+00:00

r/AskMen has a female mod??

nomoregouge · 2018-06-01T13:48:33+00:00

It correlates with obesity. There is an aromatase in adipose tissue.

q_alt · 2018-06-01T10:46:22+00:00

Society is trying to make men as weak as possible through diet in order to make them easier to control.

striaghtWHITEmale · 2018-06-01T10:26:51+00:00

Estrogen in the water.

iamanarci · 2018-06-01T11:00:44+00:00

There may be many reasons, but I do believe a significant contributing factor is the diet. Soy is number one culprit.

I did my groceries shopping and found 80% of all food items contained soy. I couldn't find a single branded bread without soy as an ingredient. Even the cheaper tuna can had soy in it.

I now buy food only of it's soy free, no matter what - no East Asian food (Chinese in particular).

That's my thoughts anyway bro's.

Diogenes-- · 2018-06-01T17:29:16+00:00

Lots of factors.

Vitamin D. We work and recreate indoors and have very, very low vitamin D levels, since the main source is getting sunlight. It can be supplemented but the natural way is best. If it's sunny spend 10-15 minutes in the sun if you can. Roll up your shirt sleeves or take your shirt off, etc. - expose as much of your body to the sun as you can. Your body needs vit D to make testosterone.
Fat and cholesterol. A lot of people avoid these because "science" in the 70s and 80s, paid for by the sugar industry, found that they're bad for us. They're really not - sugar is though. Just use moderation, don't chug melted butter lol. Your body needs fat and cholesterol to make testosterone.
Soy has estrogenic compounds. It's in a lot of processed foods since it's flavor-neutral and very cheap. If a manufacturer can replace 20-30% of their product with soy, with no appreciable difference in flavor or texture, they'll do it in a heartbeat to save money on manufacturing, thus increase profit. And obviously don't be like lefties and drink soylent or soy milk. Christ, lol.
Plastics have estrogenic compounds. Good luck completely avoiding it, but do what you can. Use glass or metal in place of plastic where possible - for storing leftovers, for your water bottle, etc. Especially never eat something that's been hot and in contact with plastic, like microwave dinners.
Estrogen is in the water supply in some areas. Probably from every woman being on birth control so they can let Chad cum in them without getting pregnant. They pee out the estrogen, water treatment facilities get out most of it - but not all - and then pump it right back into taps. Get a good water filter.
Sugar, and to a lesser extent, white potatoes and bready stuff (cereal, pizza crust, etc.) I'm not sure if it directly lowers T, but it's terrible for you in general, and it does lead to weight gain - and fat does lower T. About 75% of pre-packaged foods contain added sugar, often in things you wouldn't think would contain sugar. The processed food manufacturers have found that a bit of sugar makes things taste better and increases their profits. There are dozens of different names for it, some of them unpronounceable chemicals - so if you don't see "sugar" in the ingredients, it might still contain sugar. It's best to cook your own fresh whole foods. And don't drink sugar. Leave it out of coffee and tea, no soda or fruit juice, no energy or sports drinks.
Cruciferous vegetables help raise T. Eat more kale, broccoli and brussels sprouts.
Lift weights. Squats and deadlifts especially raise testosterone levels. Be careful, deadlifts done wrong with heavy weight are notorious for causing back problems. This is probably one of the biggest reasons for the lower T. I've lifted both with, and without squats, and the squats make a huge difference.
The situations we find ourselves in affect T levels. This is probably the most ambiguous one. Challenge yourself, get outside your comfort zone. Take cold showers, go camping alone, etc.
Nofap. Here's the controversial one. It definitely has an effect, but instead of mocking me (or blindly believing me), try it for yourself.

Edit:

Sleep. As jkull2 pointed out, I forgot to mention sleep. Sleep is when our muscles repair themselves from lifting, which is what makes them bigger and stronger. It's also when our bodies produce human growth hormone which is good for various reasons. Studies have shown a lot of benefits for getting 8 hours a night, and a significant decrease in testosterone levels for less than 8 - and it gets lower the less sleep you get.

RadicalAsceticMonk · 2018-06-01T14:06:33+00:00

Is this drop in testosterone levels a non-problem in your eyes?

It's a problem for women, who will get more and more frustrated with men in the future. All I'm willing to do is laugh at them for that.

Most_Insane_F2P · 2018-06-01T14:45:21+00:00

Cortisol. It's a chemical the body releases that's caused by stress and poor diet, and produces a fuck-ton of negatives including Hypoglycemia, Hypertension and Low T. Eat clean, be physically active and reduce your stress. There's meds you can take to reduce cortisol levels, but you can do so with no meds by just changing your diet and lifestyle.

JohnPerera · 2018-06-01T12:37:45+00:00

Forbes is female supremacist propaganda, FYI.

kubicas · 2018-06-01T13:56:14+00:00

What are the solutions? TRT and better diet?

Infinitewisdom1984 · 2018-06-01T14:48:23+00:00

Attention, memory, and spatial ability are key cognitive functions affected by testosterone in humans. It is also crucial in promoting risk taking ability in humans.

Perhaps it was this. As soon as you admit that higher levels of testosterone correlate with these traits, you begin dismantling the current MSM narrative that we're all the same in everything except reproductive organs. As soon as you admit that chemicals in our bodies naturally dished out to us in lopsided amounts across a sex/gender split determine things like spacial reasoning ability, you're going to face backlash from the cult of far leftism. We could even go a step further and contend that perhaps lowering male testosterone and increasing female testosterone is an objective of society in an effort to make us more equal with each passing generation.

2018-06-01T16:08:33+00:00

Sitting inside all day for one. Eating food that is processed and not from the earth. Men being raised by women, and then spending their lives with a woman boss as a wife. Seeing THOTS walking around all day but being threatened with jail if you should be a man and attempt to fertilize. Porn and jacking off lowers testosterone and increases estrogen. Condoms and birth control. Wearing Deodorant. Watching TV. Sitting in weird positions all day in an office with a bunch of strange people. I can go on and on.

forthefaps001 · 2018-06-01T17:56:32+00:00

Your testosterone changes daily based on the actions in your daily life.

Men are jacking it way more than they used to due to the huge increase in availability of porn and more laced views towards sex and self pleasure.

After you masturbate, your testosterone levels drop. When the whole world is jacking it more, a 30% in daily testosterone isn't that big a deal.

AllahHatesFags · 2018-06-01T14:38:18+00:00

Is there something you can take to get a modest testosterone boost but without shrinking your balls, growing tits, or getting ED? Would an aromatase inhibitor by itself work?

curiouslyengaged · 2018-06-01T14:40:31+00:00

"Try guys" confirm it! gag

its_meKnightSwolaire · 2018-06-01T17:54:53+00:00

The 80s was the decade in which we gave up our fatty foods for sugar laden foods.

gods_bones · 2018-06-01T12:33:02+00:00

Good. Fewer babies being born = Fewer babies for women to murder via abortion or exploit as slavelabor for her own luxury.

cutdogg03 · 2018-06-01T14:22:25+00:00

A lot of factors come into play. Diet, estrogen and estrogen-mimicking chemicals all around us, not exercising, etc. I'm a 32 year old fit male and for the last few weeks I've tried incorporating several lifestyles changes in order to increase my levels, though I must admit I don't know what they are. I need to get it tested soon. I do the OMAD diet (One meal a day), I workout every other day doing a 15-minute HIIT workout (in a fasted state) and I take several supplements that have been proven to help raise testosterone and overall health. I have definitely noticed an increase in my energy levels throughout the day and during my workouts, even though I haven't eaten all day.

yourmomlikes269 · 2018-06-01T15:15:05+00:00

estrogens and exogenous hormones in the food it most of it

KrKs_ · 2018-06-01T16:23:28+00:00

Bisphenol A. Gmos. Chemicals sprayed on the food. It's mainly dietary and even if you eat a good diet on paper, you have to consider where it came from and the farming practices being used. There is a reason they won't make companies slap a GMO label on food in the grocery store. The companies know people are slowly realizing how much our health is being undermined, so you'll see an increase of buzzwords on packaging like"all natural", "free range", "non gmo", "no artifical ingredients", "sugar free". It doesn't mean anything though, it's just false advertising really..

“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.” -Henry Kissinger

2018-06-01T18:25:55+00:00

Too much soy and nuts. To much drugs. Too much female influence.

BatPotato15 · 2018-06-01T19:58:28+00:00

But i think women have more estrogen now have you noticed how mature girls look nowadays ?

2018-06-01T21:35:25+00:00

It's not even well known because it is happening to men.

If it was happening to women, then you'd hear about it constantly.

Illustrious_Hour · 2018-06-01T23:41:31+00:00

I've had bad sleep for as long as I can remember. My sleep is always interrupted.

CommanderHeMan · 2018-06-05T00:08:05+00:00

Don’t drink municipal water, it’s full of estrogen.

2018-06-01T15:43:14+00:00

Video game addiction

HonoluluLion · 2018-06-01T16:46:41+00:00

Flouride

2018-06-01T18:46:16+00:00

Too sad fact. The man need to recover your testosterone and masculinity!

CommanderHeMan · 2018-06-01T19:11:13+00:00

What are some good fruits, veggies, meats, and carbs that promote testosterone and minimize unbeneficial estrogens?

Zombocom1911 · 2018-06-01T21:10:26+00:00

I could be 100% wrong about the following, scientifically speaking, but I think as long as there is any doubt whatsoever about what various types of radiation might be doing to you, its better to try keep cellphones out of your pocket and even things like wireless game controllers (Bluetooth) away from your nuts as much as possible. You can use wired mode on some game controllers and turn the Bluetooth off.

or it could be all the xenoestrogens in the environment. (bisphenol A , etc)

2018-06-01T21:58:08+00:00

If Testosterone => sex drive, I'll be glad to cut it all out of my body. Causes nothing but problems. I say Fuck Testosterone.

> youre-not-the-man-your-father-was/

I don't care. I got better things to do

Throwawaysteve123456 · 2018-06-02T02:18:54+00:00

Everyone goes to diet first because they assume it has a physical cause. People forget that the brain is part of the body, and every thought feeling and sensation that you've ever had occured from activity in the brain. In reality, behavioral situations have a HUGE impact on T levels. If you win a sporting event it goes up, and vice versa; more so in more 'masculine' sports like MMA or boxing. Getting KOed causes T levels to DROP enormously for a short while, so you don't go picking fights again.

What I am getting to is our culture can ENTIRELY explain the result. Maybe diet has a small role, but what has changed more in the last 30 years: diet, or culture? There's your fucking answer.

You have men, if you can even call them that anymore, raised in highly feminized environmnts. Competition is discouraged. MASCULINITY itself is discouraged. We know that stereotypical male things causes higher T levels, such as lifting weights. We also know that rejection can lower T levels. Think of the environment the typical 18 year old was raised and lives in, vs your great grandparents who fought in the big war.

And people blame diet?

Fuck, the science is out there. This is a cultural issue entirely.

sicassangel · 2018-06-02T02:21:30+00:00

I'm 16 years old and I wish I had more testosterone in me. Maybe I'm still developing, but I look 12 and I hate it. I don't even look like my height.

Villad_rock · 2018-09-17T12:17:22+00:00

My opinion is that the more civilizised a world the less manly the men are. Men with higher testosterone levels are riskier, more likely in prison or criminals, thus more likely to reproduce less than men with less testosterone. Compared to tribal societies, masculine men cant just beat the guys and steal the women, women also dont need them anymore as providers. What happens is that women more likely prefer to start a family with a less masculine men because they are seen as better dads and more caring, they can also provide for the women with good jobs. Another theory what I heard is that men prefer the most feminine women, so if a high testosteone guy makes a baby with a feminine low testosterone girl, the son will not be as masculine anymore. This will continue every generation. There is a reason why in more tribal, especially polygamous societies the men are big, strong and masculine like the pacific islanders or west africans, yet europeans and especially asians and indians who have one of the oldest civilization with very fertile land are less masculine. If you could travel back in time 10000 years ago the men in europe would be more masculine looking than today. The only reason women are atrracted to masculinity was that in the past women who prefered them had an evolutionary advantage. Today not anymore. I think if we doesnt include technology in some 10000 years most men and women will not really look different to each other and most women also mainly be attracted to feminity. Its not a biological law that women are attracted to masculinity.