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Money is your real family, it will take care of you when you get old, if you're sick it will help you getting back to health, it can help you get anything you want and if you take good care of it you will be taken care of in return, money is your true family.

November 4, 2019
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Title Money is your real family, it will take care of you when you get old, if you're sick it will help you getting back to health, it can help you get anything you want and if you take good care of it you will be taken care of in return, money is your true family.
Author BlackPillPusher
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Date November 4, 2019 7:31 AM UTC (3 years ago)
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[–]79johnsmith466 points467 points  (35 children) | Copy Link

Money is freedom. The more you have, the freer you are to do whatever you want.

Also, women are the greatest money reducing agent known to mankind.

[–]gtowerthrowaway269 points270 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Women are the greatest freedom reducing agent known to mankind.

FTFY

[–]kyledontcare121 points122 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Ask Michael Jordan. And Jeff Bezos. And Greg Norman. And Tiger Woods. And . . .I don't have any more time.

[–]rp_whybother19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

[–]massy5251 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The better question I always have is why not just " disappear" them? I mean I'm not exaggerating when I say I've met people that would legit kill someone for 24 hrs worth of their drug of choice. I've never even been particularly involved in that side of life either. Which means there are even more desperate and depraved lunatics out there that I've never met a shadow of who would do worse for less. It also means there are much more capable people that are reasonably priced available for competent work of this sort.

How can a multi-billionaire not have resources at the levels of medieval kings or better? This is part of a bigger theory I have on the world that I cannot in anyway prove. I do however have much anecdotal evidence that most of the "rich" are not actually in control of their own wealth. (it does not involve aliens btw)

[–]LiveTheTruth32116 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Look at Napoleon Hill's wikipedia page. Every time he got married and divorced (which is no surprise) he went broke. The author of "Think and Grow Rich" was not immune to the trap of marriage.

[–]Mort118613 points14 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

My cousin got divorced recently, he had to pay his ex a million and 30k every month. His ex never worked a day in her life, and now shes gonna live a life of luxury doing absolutely nothing , all but look after 2 kids, which she dumps by her parents.

[–]Raygar217 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is so common. Independent women who use a small army of unpaid caregivers while they do fuck all.

[–]BiffBiffBiff2733 points34 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Money is not freedom if it requires possession of it to be free. That's bondage, not freedom.

But I agree with you in part.

[–]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue21 points22 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is freedom in the sense that it gives you more realistic options. Nothing you didn't have before, but some of the options are only realistic if you have money to spare.

Like rich or poor, you have the freedom to quit your day job and travel the world. But without money, this freedom not realistically exercised.

[–]PolukranosWordEater6 points7 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm with you on this though I guess we're a minority. This sub is very pro materialistic and as an avid minilimalist it's disheartening.

I came from a affluent family and I lived first-hand how money doesn't magically make everything better. With money you have all manners of parasites and predators always coming out of the woodwork to take what you have. A momment of weakness or sympathy could cost you dearly. "A king envies the security of a beggar" - Adam Smith.

"Treasures are your burden". With accumlating things you're fighting off, for lack of a better word, entropy. Everything wants to fall apart. Maintaining everything is it's own part time job. Freedom in some ways, yolked in others.

[–]BiffBiffBiff271 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

100% agree with you. The more you have the more you have to lose, the more it becomes a burden on your mind as you're always worrying about loss.

I'm not materialistically inclined owing to my spiritual interests, which I see as a higher priority than wealth. In the absence of a spiritual drive the materialistic one is almost the default, or hedonism or even suicide if one really grasps the hopelessness of this world.

I think there are minimalist and spiritual mgtows here. But it's a pyramid distribution; the more refined the objective the fewer aspirants.

[–]Raygar211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Parasites and predators come with the territory if you have some money and don't have a huge buffer of family, lawyers, etc to keep them at bay. And even lawyers and family can end up being the biggest parasites of all. It's tough to know who to trust.

Even rich celebrities can be surprisingly naive. I knew someone who was care taking a property for a huge performing artist in Malibu and I was surprised to see how even she got royally shafted by some of the contractors she'd hired. I just assumed that she would have gotten the best of the best because she could afford it.

[–]LordEppley10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Agreed, my dream is to become a digital nomad. I don't want to wagecuck

[–]Jaganshi935 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

how can i make money and not being a slave?

[–]Mort11862 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"A king envies the security of a beggar" - Adam Smith.

Start your own business. Its gonna be tought and lots to do, but you will cope.

[–]the-lone-squid1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spend less so you can at least work a job you don't absolutely hate

[–]BlackBoxInquiry2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That and taxes.

[–]NapsBeforeWork1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Compound interest is the most powerful force.

Conversely, in order to utilize compound interest men need to overcome the most destructive force: women.

[–]Mort11860 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Amen brother.. I was explaining to my father today why I wont get married again and I will be happy with myself in life because I choose how I will want to live, not somebody else. My father has a bad track record with woman, my mother skipped the country and left him alone with 4 kids, she just left without telling anyone. His second wife is one of the worst persons to ever exist, she is terribly horrible, she embodies all the bad words that exists, a pure definition of sociopath. I take my hat off for him for being able to tolerate womans bullshit, but i think hes starting to finally realize that woman is not for him.

[–]cricketrmgss0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money may be freedom however if you are relying on it to be your everything make sure you diversify. Do not put all your eggs in one basket.

[–]gerykelf145 points146 points  (28 children) | Copy Link

Money is good. But can disappear any day. Our society feels like it is built up well and protects the value of money. But do not forget that we've seen instances of it loosing all it's worth in days time. You never know. What really worth a lot is the experience and skills you have to make said money. You cannot get robbed of those. You should invest in yourself, so even if you lose your money, you will be able to re-earn it easier.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 45 points46 points  (21 children) | Copy Link

Money isn't meant to be lying around, it's meant to be invested, I personally invest in gold which historically speaking never went down in value and as far as we know never will, and yeah, your marketable skills are worth more than paper.

[–]AncientMGTOWWISDOM39 points40 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

im a precious metals investor as well, gold silver palladium, I have never lost and only gained, you just have to be patient and let it do its thing, but gold has gone down bro, just put in the 10 year gold chart, in 2011 it hit a high of 1900, and then went back down to 1300, and now its on its way back up having cracked the glorious 1500 mark.

[–]EgoLemonade7 points8 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

I'm certain you all know, if you're investing in precious metals, that our markets are highly manipulated right now. Just remember that all fiat (paper) currencies fail eventually. Here's some videos on why investing in gold is a good idea.

[–]AncientMGTOWWISDOM4 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

i agree, i personally think that silver is a better oportunity for the average man, but you cant lose with any precious metal really

[–]EgoLemonade2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I agree that silver is definitely a better deal than gold right now (the silver to gold ratio is a good indicator of this). Stock up while it's cheap!

[–]AncientMGTOWWISDOM2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

i stocked up good and plenty brother, some bitcoin and etherium as well too

[–]ncarolina667 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And don't forget Governments can outlaw gold as the US Gov't did in 1934 and confiscate it as well. Not saying they will again but just know it has been done in the past.

So make sure you don't put it in a safe deposit box and be ready to bury it in your backyard...just saying.

[–]MarzMonkey7 points8 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

I personally invest in gold which historically speaking never went down in value

I mean, some warmongers can just stroll through and steal all the gold and you're out of luck. We're just about reaching the centennial of the depression and we all know history repeats itself.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

Yeah well, you're talking about Africa, shit like that won't roll in any western country due to the abundance of firearms and ammunition pretty much everywhere, we're not going jim jones with it let's stay reasonable.

[–]MarzMonkey2 points3 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

I was talking about Nazis strolling through taking all the valuables/gold and western people using wheelbarrows of money to buy bread or killing themselves over the stock market.

But okay, it's just Africa, white folk wouldn't do that, no sir.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] -5 points-4 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

What fucking Nazis? Who's the current fuhrer?

[–]MarzMonkey2 points3 points  (10 children) | Copy Link

...in history...you dunce.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] -3 points-2 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Do you have a time machine?

[–]MarzMonkey0 points1 point  (8 children) | Copy Link

Can you read?

we all know history repeats itself.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] -3 points-2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Nazis don't exist in 2019, they don't hold any political power, your comment is retarded

[–]JohnPerera3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Best comment I've seen today.

[–]featherknife0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

*losing

*its worth

*several days' time

[–]gerykelf-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Thank you for your work. You can go now.

[–]Clavskob-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

[–]StormOfHoney95 points96 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

I love that moment when people at work talk to me about marriage/relationships/children and I tell them that life isn't for me and I have no interest in it.

As a last resort they say: "But who will take care of you when you are old?"

And I reply: "Well, if I make it to old age... with all the money saved on not having a wife or kids I'll be able to afford the best nursing home"

Then there is a "shit, he's right" moment.

[–]LuvMeTendieLuvMeTrue49 points50 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

You bet there are retirement homes out there, with hookers and blackjack.

[–]pretty_anxious34 points35 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Some retirement homes actually get down as charlie brown, this one place this guy i knew worked at in college, the residents were all like 60-70 not even that old, and were constantly trading medications and fucking eachother

[–]PolukranosWordEater4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Haha reminds me of an article I read about the sudden ride of Stds in the senior citizen population 😂

[–]rp_whybother19 points20 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

PPL are clueless - getting married and having kids is no guarantee they will look after you when older. They will be living their own lives - probably in a different city. As a man you have a higher chance of dying before your wife but the odds that you will still be together at that age are slim.

[–]pacosteles0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You have to be fucking nuts if you think kids will take you at their homes when you are old. They will contribute for the nursing home bill at best.

[–]EgoLemonade16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Keep your health up and you won't have to be in a nursing home; even if I had the money, I wouldn't trust them. You can always taken the Smith and Wesson retirement plan option. If that sounds too extreme just think: would you rather save up all your money to have a few Happy Retirement Years ™ when you're too old and senile to enjoy it? Or would you climb those mountains while you're still young enough? And, 40 years from now, who knows if the 401K retirement plans will even still be around. Social Security certainly won't. Argentina just simply yoinked their citizens retirement plans when it wanted more money. Don't think they'll do that here? When you save for the future, don't just save in dollars. Save in gold, silver (onsite and offsite), save in beans, guns, flashlights, waterfilters, crypto, all that jazz. But most importantly, save in your health. Because without that, all the rest doesn't really matter.

[–]MECHO9915 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Can I use this to shut someone out :)

[–]bulgaria_sofia3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

kids dont take care of oldfags anyways. at best they will pay for some shitty nursing home so its the same hand

[–]VHazKomeTo2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Oh my God dude you didn't have to kill them like that haha. I mean if that's their intention for getting married then that sucks.

[–]the-lone-squid2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Or just hire a live in nurse and die at home.

Hopefully nurse robots by that time

[–]hamburgerstake0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

All I want is to live long enough to have a robot nurse I can fuck when I'm old and decrepit.

[–]GrisBosque37 points38 points  (16 children) | Copy Link

Money is an imaginary construct. Its based entirely on belief. All fiat money systems in human history have eventually collapsed. Our's is the most fiat system ever.

So its a game of musical chairs...

And when the music stops, its not how many imaginary numbers you had, but what you did with the tool when you had it's use.

After years of observation and analysis, I think that when the game crashes, one's outcome will be inversely related to their dependency on the money system.

That those with the least dependency will fare best, and those with the most dependency will fare worst.

The only wise use of money, is to do or get things that reduce or eliminate your dependency on money.

And we are watching a collapse cycle in real time... Many see the pieces, few get the overview.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 14 points15 points  (11 children) | Copy Link

Money itself isn't worth anything unless it's properly invested, as I said before - I suggest gold, it never lost it's value through human history, other than that getting quality tools and equipment is always a good idea.

[–]GrisBosque13 points14 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

I have to agree! Gold and silver have held value even in collapses.

But even they often at much deflated rates...

Once read a story that in classical Russia that the majority of gold was owned by farmer's wives in the form of jewelry...

That the nobility and their malfeasance took the economy thru repeating cycles of economic collapses, and invariably weathy people traded their jewelry for potatoes and earlier other root crops and staple foods.

Moral of the story obviously is that food growing skills, tools, and small farms, hold their value thru cycles of human stupidity and arrogance, better than gold and silver...

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 9 points10 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah, I also suggest learning to fish and prepare said fish, butchering and carving game/farm animals is pretty useful too, needless to say, general wilderness survival skills won't hurt either, just saying that having a stash of gold just as a backup wouldn't hurt.

[–]GrisBosque6 points7 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I totally agree on all points, and could add no few to your list!

But basically what the vignette teaches if you extrapolate out, is that things and skills with actual practical value, exceed all else in real value over time...

And the Technocult is as fragile as it is complicated.

My advice on the gold and silver; having been raised in a small family jewelry business and knowing the markups and used values etc. Is that one of the best sources for your intrinsic metals reserve, is to buy gold and silver sold for casting new jewelry. Its been refined or re refined, and comes sold by weight from jewelry manufacture suppliers for closer to actual value than coins or bullion. It comes in the form of small droplets... So if you have a set of scales can be weighed out to match the deal struck.

You might check out what I'm saying, and to use to enhance your reserve. Easy to store in bags, and not as obvious to thieves as to what it is.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 2 points3 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Saved your message brother, will check out for sure, always looking to diversify.

[–]GrisBosque0 points1 point  (2 children) | Copy Link

I thought you might like that tidbit. Others have over the years... And I thought it an opportune time to concept plant with Bro's.....

If you keep reciepts, anyone post crash will realize legitamacy.

And of course it can be assayed using a couple chemical reaction tests, in case you wanna know about that stuff too....

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I used to know some chemistry, any methods/lessons you recommend?

[–]GrisBosque1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I dont remember the chemicals, and likely different each for silver and gold.

Also your first step would be weighing and then adding known weight to a graduated cylinder of water, to compare to actual displacement.

As each metal has a specific weight for its volume. This test was devised by a famous Greek to test for debased coinage.

Quite sure you can look it up online.

Cyanide will eat gold. If you work with it, be exceedingly careful... one flyspec can kill you, even inhaled.

[–]rp_whybother1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Once read a story that in classical Russia that the majority of gold was owned by farmer's wives in the form of jewelry...

I believe this is similar to India today

[–]GrisBosque1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yeah... I've heard Indians use gold as a secure savings.. Not sure who its entrusted with these days, but it wouldn't be the women, if it was me....

India has grave problems on the horizon due to traditional paddy rice farming. Could be fixed and even turned around if they shifted to dryland rice and only irrigated just before dew point. perhaps even with the irrigation water chilled via passive solar refridgeration like the "Icy ball freezer" type tech. ie they'd need insulated tanks and passive solar cooling, applied just before dew point so the high ambient humidity could be condensed, and over time assist in refilling aquifers....

But they'll starve first, I'll bet money... Not because of stupidity, but due to corruption and nepotism filling positions of power rather than based on actual merit and solutions...

[–]ncarolina661 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And don't forget Governments can outlaw gold as the US Gov't did in 1934 and confiscate it as well. Not saying they will again but just know it has been done in the past.

So make sure you don't put it in a safe deposit box and be ready to bury it in your backyard...just saying.

[–]browndave3390 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

any money is good as long as you dont spend it recklessly

[–]Yashugan000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

so much right this... thank you. I'm not alone

[–]GrisBosque1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Nope! Brothers of different mothers.... Some had good dads, some bad dads, and some no dads...

And many many of the no dads would have been there if allowed.

And been good dads...

So.... we assist each other, in a world of self centerness and insanity!

Have integrity....

[–]featherknife0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

*It's based

*Ours

*it's a game

*it's not how

*its use

[–]GrisBosque1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

its fake... suggest you search term: "Fractional Reserve Banking"

[–]ThatsReallyGr817 points18 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

It may not buy happiness but surely makes misery a lot more tolerable.

Personally I think it can buy happiness.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

A cold six-pack and a nice t-bone sounds like happiness to me.

[–]pacosteles0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Money can be exchanged for those.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Precisely my point

[–]Payton_Stone2 points3 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Certainly agree with your first point. But as to buying happiness - how would you go a out buying happiness with money ?

[–]cb332 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money does not directly correlate with happiness. Happiness comes from within and there can be numerous causes of it, money to buy useful things to make your life easier would be one of those.

[–]mirocj0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

What is happiness for you?
good health? free time? enjoying your hobbies? having no debts, some/lots of savings and knowing you're safe and can live tomorrow?
having money will let you have those mentioned above, to be content and have a fulfilling life. Not to mention you will miss out on a lot of those if you ever decide to sign a one way contract.

[–]Freebiesaregreat2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Do you hear rich people saying money doesn’t buy happiness?

[–]ThatsReallyGr81 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

No, not even once have I ever heard that.

[–]B4K3R24512 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Don't let anyone or anything distract you from getting your money. They say money isn't everything, but in reality, it is. Let's get this bread

[–]thefudmaster11 points12 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

There are a lot of Bible-thumping naysayers whom will say that money is the root of all evil. However, it is the “love of money” that is the root of all evil.

As the saying goes, you will lose a lot of money chasing women but you will never lose women when chasing money.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 5 points6 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Of course, money is evil but here's the donation bucket, you know how religious people are.

[–]thefudmaster1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I never really believed in that philosophy or that of tithing. I donate my time to coaching youth sports and helping the homeless. The last thing I believe a church needs is my money.

Recently, I was hanging out with my parents and their church was having meetings with all of the older parishioners. Churches do this to be added to the last will and testament of older people. I was infuriated by that.

[–]Admirator1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money, is not evil. Its the absence of money that is the root of all evil. Absence of money is what causes crimes, deprecation and diseases.

[–]Red_Pill_Philosopher7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money is the only true measure of power and influence. If you are able to live in luxury and keep your life private you are the true winner in this society. Move in silence. 🤫 Invest, Build Assets, Minimize Liabilities, Live in Minimalism, don’t marry, don’t have kids and you’ll be living better most people on this planet.

[–]yooshio6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

lol, classic

[–]MangoMelonYT38 points9 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lolololololol

[–]kyledontcare3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lot of truth here, not quite gospel truth, but it's close. Besides hell and salvation, Jesus talked the most about money.

[–]metea113 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Ok i loled :D Good one

[–]quijote30003 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

"James Cameron's divorce in 1999 after 1 or 2 years from Linda Hamilton; estimated at $50 million ($75 million inflation adjusted)"

50 million for one year or two?

Also "In an October 2005 appearance on Larry King Live, Hamilton discussed her depression and her bipolar disorder, which led to violent mood swings and suicidal thoughts during her marriage to Abbott, and ultimately destroyed both of her marriages"

[–]fuddubandha1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The Manager would have been fired and the man would have been sued in #metoo shit in today world.

[–]fryhldrew1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It is good sir

[–]MohamedSakhiri1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money is power and fortune and everything.

[–]UnderpaidBIGtime2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

What is money 💷? Got in to Bitcoins since 2012. Never looked back

[–]BitcoinBoffin3 points4 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Bitcoin is the only money not getting manipulated by monetary expansion or distorting secondary markets. Not even gold & silver have that going for them with leveraged futures ETF markets like GLD & SLV leveraged over 200 promises on each actual ounce of metal. It's crazy, they will settle 'delivery' in USD then turn around then do it all again. And thanks to the inability to actually audit the bullion banks these highly manipulated secondary markets have become the primary function informing gold & silver's price discovery, not the actual physical market. Meanwhile Bitcoin's blockchain self audits every coin every 10 minutes. Nice.

[–]monkey_swagger1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Great post and love the username.

[–]Raygar211 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Truth. If you have enough money, you automatically gain power. There's no escaping this reality.

I watched the people in my father's retirement community grapple with finances as assisted living and nursing care is insanely expensive. I went out to visit all the time and I didn't see that many families showing up. And when they did it was more of a perfunctory stay an hour, take a couple photos and hightail it out of there kind of thing. Poor residents usually had far fewer visits than rich residents. Go figure /s

Money is still king, if you have it people are likely to treat you with respect and you'll get better service even if you pay the same as the poor guy next door. Any male resident who was known to have some money, got flirtatious attentive treatment from the care givers, nurses and other staff. I remember watching a 20 something care giver bending over a 90 year old dude in a wheelchair, wearing a very low cut top, giggling and flirting with him. Definitely a red pill moment.

This same care giver attempted to take this guy's brand new luxury car, stating he had offered to lend it to her because her's was in the shop. LOL . yeah right. Hang out in a retirement home for a few days and you'll be red pilled about money and how exploitative some people are real quick.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I ran into a local untapped market a few years ago, used it to it's full extent to run a homeless shelter, everything off the books, no profit, no markups, no bullshit, just helping my bros, I gave them off the books jobs, most of them were divorced fathers, some of them killed themselves, it was a tough operation, nothing easy about it, but if you want to help men you gotta go against the grain.

[–]Raygar211 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's truly amazing that you stepped up and did all that. You must sleep easy at night knowing you've literally saved lives. My hat's off to you brother.

[–]DigitalScetis1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The moment when the things you used to do for free now come with a pricetag attached is the moment you discover how very alone you are. Congratulations, you have now reached middle age. Better pay up, because there are no more gifts or favors from here on out.

It happens to cat ladies often. The things she used to call up simps for, like to cry and vent, nobody wants to hear about. The going rate to get someone to listen to that stuff is $150 an hour.

The things she used to rely upon, like things around the house getting fixed, she has to make an appointment and pay for. The going rate to get someone to fix something is, again, about $150.

The more I've had to rely upon money to make my life run smoothly, the more I realize how little that money even buys. Even if you have money to make your life easier, there's no guarantee you'll find anyone to take it. Try getting a therapist when they're all booked for the next month. Try getting some dude to fix your TV when he's got to special order the part, and there's a backlog. Yeah, you could go out and spend ten times as much cash to buy a new TV, but is that really "taking care of your money?" If the only thing standing between you and desolation is that wad of cash, you can't make those choices. Not if you rely upon that for everything.

At the end of the day, it ain't the money that is going to take care of a person. It's people.

That there's even a person who will take your money to help you with your problems is itself a sort of blessing we seldom consider. They could just assume say they are too busy, or they could not do a good job, or they can take the money and ignore you. Sure, you could sue them. But that costs money too. And who says the lawyer has to care? What makes you, me, any of us so important that we get the world to jump up for us, simply because we waive a few hundred dollars in their faces?

The most important commodity in this world isn't money. It is people who give a damn. That money can be used as a way to get people to give a damn about us is the only reason why money is in any way useful.

But there's no law that says they have to take it. In fact, the people with integrity, the very people you need in life, don't need the money as badly as people need them.

[–]CIAC501 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Just enough. I'm a minimalist for the aesthetic and because I don't like clutter in my life. One car one mountain bike and one apartment all low maintenance but used every day and sufficient funds to replace. Ieat well and exercise as much or little as I want but only socialise infrequently.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Same here, being frugal is life, don't buy shit you don't need so you don't fuel the system that hates your guts.

[–]kp7291 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There is a Sanskrit saying -

Alsasya kutoh vidya, avidasya kutoh dhanam.

Adhanasya kutoh mitram, amitrasya kutoh sukham..

Translation:

Laziness means no knowledge, No knowledge means no money.

No money means no friends, no friends means no happiness..

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Exactly this, they say money can't buy love or happiness when actually your resources and assets are the most important determining factor in the inception of your social circle.

[–]DaWobsterExpress0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just brilliant.

[–]pritejieken0 points1 point  (17 children) | Copy Link

I agree money is cool but at the same time it doesn't provide the social bond families, more specifically wife, and kids, do

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (15 children) | Copy Link

Neither does a wife, she will divorce your ass and take all your shit after years of endless nagging, the social contract was broken by the government over seven decades ago.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (14 children) | Copy Link

So your solution is to remove your chance to form social bonds and fulfill the human experience at all and instead turn to the shallow hedonism afforded to you by money all because you fear what a woman MIGHT do?

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 3 points4 points  (13 children) | Copy Link

I have my own social bonds, I just don't pay for them.

[–][deleted] -5 points-4 points  (12 children) | Copy Link

Oh yeah? well go ahead and elaborate for us.

None of your bonds supersede you. None provide the fulfillment of family. None participate in the act of creation.

I understand your position on how fucked divorce is but why would you let fear dominate your life?

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 3 points4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

Go ahead and make kids, slave away for you wife and whatnot, this is MGTOW, it's not for you, I deem the juice not worth the squeeze and so do most men in here

[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

I wasnt aware MGTOW folks are terrified of discussion. my bad

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

We're not terrified, we just find it useless with the likes of you.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

The likes of people that disagree with your worldview? So you prefer an echo chamber?

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

You have kids, you have a wife, you're not going your own way, you're not making your own choices, you're not welcome here.

[–]Haywood_Jablomie421 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Pull the Bible out of your ass and stop pushing others to be cucked.

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Where exactly did i reference religion?

Also having children = cucked? Might want to look into a dictionary or something.

[–]WanderlustYouth0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

bond families, more specifically wife, and kids, do

Just wait until she divorces you and accuses you of domestic abuse/ rape. Then you'll see just how strong those bonds actually are...You're not supposed to fall in love with money, just make enough so that you aren't forced to live a shitty life. Personally i'd be fine with having roughly 700k invested with 5% dividend return as i don't realistically spend more than 30k a year as a single man anyway...

[–]hrm08940 points1 point  (3 children) | Copy Link

I worry that, due to MGTOW and other reasons which are making relationshits less prevalent, there will be a MAJOR economic recession in our lifetimes which will devalue the US dollar.

It might be wise to invest in other currencies.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's pretty much the point, starving the system, being frugal.

[–]EarlT50000 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Are you saying, that instead of investing in Paper with Green Ink,
we should invest in,
Paper with different colored Inks?

How are their Ink colors,
better than our Ink colors?

.

.

[–]hrm08940 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well, if you want an example, the euro is more valuable than the US dollar.

[–]VHazKomeTo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

I think it's Knowledge and skill which can get you helluva money. Family ehh. People who are afraid of doing alone. Most of us never even consider the reason for marriage, they just do it because it's what our elders did and everybody does.

[–]Valor_X0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

LMAO

[–]Payton_Stone0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

Lots of good points here. Once you have money you really have to think through what you want. Because you can go out and get stuff and realize that what you have now isn't good at all, and in fact lots of times it's an encumbrance. Have a strategy - like acquiring objects that are practical, useful, increase efficiency or comfort or safety. Think too about the lifetime of the object, how much maintenance it will require, how much space, how you'll get rid of it, and whether it really stimulates your growth or is just a distraction. One focus of course is to use money to make more money. Depending on how ambitious you are that can provide you a lifetime treadmill or it can get old as well after you hit a certain level. With a few million you can sit back and relax. A few tens of millions you can kinda live large, but it might get you into lots of trouble because of human urges and weakness. Hundreds of millions you can have people take care of your every whim - that must be really cool I would imagine. Billion level must feel astonishing but to get to that level you typically have to be a brilliant driven person and so the money isn't as important to you and lots of times those people either give it away or use it to pursue massive business projects. The age at which you get money too is a factor. By the time you get older you have a decent shot at having several million just because you've had longer to accrue it. But also, the older you are, the less you can enjoy the money at least in the youthful ways, and you have to find ways to enjoy it that are within the bounds of what one can do with your aged body and brain. I'm just glad to see Men thinking about this and making realistic plans in this modern day. What gets me the most is seeing good Men make some decent money and then it gets taken away by Women. The more informed you are about these topics the less likely you'll fall to temptation and let this happen to yourself.

[–]dazed1110 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

The problem with money is that it can very easily be taken from you.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's why you invest it, money is means to an end.

[–]MrBluePill0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

If the millionaire had opened with his second line, she wouldn't have had a problem with the language.

[–]kayfab-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

hhahhaahh

[–]ECrispy-1 points0 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Money is inherently valueless, its a construct. I don't want money or the trappings of being rich. I want a happy content life surrounded by things that bring me happiness and a simple existence, e.g. books, music, memories, and people - good friends, community etc.

Also if you have money, or more accurately have a decent wage, and have a stress free life, you will stay in good health and there's nothing more imp than that. I do not want to die in a hospital surrounded by machines and doctors with no dignity and in pain in the last years of my life.

Living in an industrialized and commercialized society like most people in the West means you will never escape the trappings and will always remain dependent on money. When in fact once someone has enough to not worry about where to sleep and what to eat, money has zero correlation with happiness.

The goal of life should be to find a sense of purpose, happiness and to make a difference in other peoples lives. Everything else is meaningless.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

People assign value to money and you gonna need it if you want literally everything on your wishlist, also money is meant for investment, not for spending it on stupid shit.

[–]massy5251 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Cool. Tell your doctor that story when you catch some difficult to treat life altering illness. All it takes is brushing up on the wrong type of mold or fungus. I already know the response to this. BLah blah I don't care, I'm careful ect, when its my time to go... ect. Not everyone is as enthusiastic to die or live a maimed life as some other people.

That being said money should never be the primary focus of anyones life like it is for so many.

[–]ECrispy-1 points0 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Not every country has a healthcare system as fucked up as the US. In fact very few do.

And you can get maimed walking down the street.

And if I do get maimed and end up a vegetable I don't want to keep on living.

[–]massy5251 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And if I do get maimed and end up a vegetable I don't want to keep on living.

There it is.

Lots of serious injury/conditions can be recovered from 80-90% and still live a good life. Also if you think it isn't near torture levels of trauma in any country where you don't have money for good recovery services. That is just another part of your delusion.

[–]ECrispy0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

This all depends on what you mean by money. Right now in the US if I have even a minor surgical procedure it can easily cost $10-50k and bankrupt me. I can't get a root canal because it costs $2k. Thats WITH insurance from work.

Of course you need money for health but its much much cheaper in countries with an actual healthcare system and not the for profit bullshit scam we have and refuse to vote against.

Why do you think so many people retire abroad? Its not a delusion. Not everyone has millions saved up for it.

[–]massy5251 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Even modest preparation for retirement results in millions in the US.

Why do you think so many people retire abroad?

I've yet to meet a retired abroad person that I admire and hope to become someday. They are losers that made the worst possible choices in life like they were playing an RPG and wanted to see the worst ending.

[–]WanderlustYouth1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Money is inherently valueless,

Technically everything is valueless, and purposeless. They only have the amount value given by a person or a society. Some people value money others don't, some people value having lots friend, and some value being alone. Money isn't the end all be all, but its means to an end. I personally live a minimalistic life style so i don't need to make a lot of money, but if i had to choose between working a shitty 9-5 making 40k a year, vs making 40k a year of off a 800k account that nets a 5% dividend return without having to wage slave, i'd choose the latter. I'd still be more or less the same lifestyle( i don't care much for most material things), but now i have the freedom to choose whether or not i want to wage slave, or to do my hobbies, or do research, or travel etc. However most people just think that being rich is buying a bunch of showy shitty consumerist items, and as such they think thats the only way to go about it for some reason...

[–]Philosophyoffreehood-3 points-2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Spotted the youngster mgtow. Edit... Dont worry lil guys, you'll get bigger pants and see.

[–]SchmittyWinkleson-4 points-3 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Just because youre rich, doesnt give you the right to be a cunt.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

Yes it does, plus gives you lots of other benefits.

[–]DigitalScetis-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Yes, you do have the right to be a cunt. But it isn't the income tax cunts gotta worry about. It's the "cunt tax" that, in my experience, constitutes the greatest expense a rich cunt gotta worry about.

They don't see it listed in any ledger. This isn't anything they talk about in CPA certification. And the lobbyists are clueless as to how to reform the tax code to mitigate it.

It's just that cunts, by virtue of their entitled cuntyness, are subject to what the economists might call "frictional costs" that decent people tend not to suffer so much.

Things tend to take more time than they usually do for cunts. Things tend to run into unexpected problems. Unexpected legal entanglements tend to accompany cuntyness, and when they do crop up, the legal fees tend to become larger.

Of course, throwing more money at the situation will make these frictional costs less obvious. It might make them appear to go away entirely. But it's a whole lot more expensive than what it could have been, without the cunt tax.

This doesn't necessarily mean that cunts pay more for the same thing decent folk do. It's just that they don't get those little extras decent people get, like timeliness, or competence, or forthrightness, alongside the things they pay for.

I've found that those things cost extra for the cunt, if they are even available for purchase. And lawyers, I've found, love rich cunts, if only because it is very easy money and steady business to tell cunts that they are decent people, and that they have been justly wronged. I mean, the lawyer can always blame it on the judge or jury if the cunt loses. Either way, a cunt on retainer is the gift that keeps on giving.

Same thing goes for the therapists. Why bother telling the cunt the truth, that he's a cunt that nobody likes, when they can drag this out for years on the couch?

It's good that rich cunts are rich, I suppose, because they have more problems than decent folk, on account of their cuntyness. They need the extra money to throw at those problems.

[–]AncientOne_-4 points-3 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

No, I don't agree.

Nothing can take the place of a good family, in fact I consider it the most valuable thing you can hope to achieve.

This fixation with economic availability is the greatest symptom of our decadence as a society.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

Not within current legal and social environment, who are you gonna start that nuclear family with? Carousel riders and teenage sluts from a single mother household? It's gonna take at least three generations to get this bitch back on track, come on, it's done.

[–]AncientOne_-3 points-2 points  (4 children) | Copy Link

I never said that you have to start a family within the current period, it's highly unlikely and with a very high probability that it won't end up well for you or any of us.

Do good women still exist out there? Yes, but they are incredibly rare and, to put it frankly, you'll never be sure that things won't end with them as well. But there is a very big difference between a woman that cheats on you and then leaves you with little children after a couple of years and a woman that commits to you for 20+ years, nurtures the kids into adulthood and then decides that maybe you will be better be apart, in friendly terms. Love is not eternal, but respect should always come with and after it, a lesson that too many people don't get.

I have a great family, and as a product of it I can't possibly deny its incredible value. I have won the biggest lottery there is and I always hope that somebody, somewhere, has the same luck that I've had.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Alright, you have a great family, that's very statistically imporbable, I don't know what your point is, but this is clearly not the subreddit for you, do whatever it is you wanna do and leave me alone.

[–]AncientOne_-3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

Can you explain me why this sub is not for me?

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

You're married, you're not going your own way, you're going your wife's way.

[–]AncientOne_0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

How do you know that I'm married?

And what about the pathetic downvotes? Guys, guys, I thought you were a smarter lot.

[–]avaricesavant-5 points-4 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

This is a sad way to live and view life, my friend. We need people and community, without that, we can never be truly happy.

[–]BlackPillPusher[S] 4 points5 points  (8 children) | Copy Link

Go and have your people and community and have fun paying for it while your at it, just stay outta my pocket.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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