Most MGTOWs I've met have had girlfriends

brad_the_yogi · 2017-10-05T14:52:00+00:00

Exactly, I personally was extremely blue pilled, had multiple relationships and looked at the world with rose tinted glasses before becoming mgtow

Inside every cynical person, there is a disappointed idealist. -George Carlin

TigPlaze · 2017-10-05T15:20:32+00:00

I'm virgin and MGTOW (the term "virgin" should only apply to women, it's only been adopted as a term to shame men and make them feel less than), so what? Since I'm no Chad I had either two choices, stay virgin or be a dancing monkey for some pussy that other guys spent zero effort on, I'll be damned if I sacrifice my dignity for that.

Drakaris · 2017-10-05T15:10:46+00:00

Almost every MGTOW I run across has had girlfriends or wives

Why do you think they went MGTOW? XD

Three-Legged-Fox · 2017-10-05T15:27:24+00:00

I was married for eleven years. My last LTR ended because she wouldn't stop demanding marriage so I bailed.

RedHotRandy · 2017-10-05T14:58:14+00:00

Most MGTOW men know from experience. I used to bang any and all chicks i could but it never brought me closer to being happy, yes i was happy for a little while but it would always fade. The only time i have truly gotten that at peace feeling is when women were removed from the equation. The thing that pushed me over the edge to be full blown MGTOW was when this girl i was banging tried the fake pregnancy on me, luckily i knew the signs of lying, sneaky bitch and got out real fast

TheAccidentOf85 · 2017-10-05T15:34:04+00:00

A virgin MGTOW is more than likely an incel. I more relate to the 30+ crowd on here that has been divorced or in emotionally abusive relationships with women. I can share their pain of having loved someone, and having the person they loved destroy everything. I creates this heaviness on your heart and in your gut that you carry around forever, like an emotional scar. The 19 year old MGTOWs likely havent had this pain yet, sure maybe a girlfriend broke up with them, cheated on them, maybe they are very observant and observed female behavior and wisely learned at a young age to not play that game...or maybe they just have no game and use MGTOW as an excuse. But my experience is what brought me to MGTOW.

2017-10-05T15:58:25+00:00

Men choose mgtow philosophy after being with women and having sex with them. This is why we are here.

ImmortanV8 · 2017-10-05T15:34:05+00:00

It is better for all of us that folks don't get what MGTOW is about. As long as those men who want to escape misery get it and can change their life for the better. Everyone else is not capable of walking t/his way anyway and they don't matter

Mefic_vest · 2017-10-05T17:11:57+00:00

I was even married (death did us part) to the second woman I was ever with romantically. She was as close to a unicorn as any man could reasonably expect - the typical emotional irrationality, but for the vast majority of the time she actually took responsibility for her own actions and decisions - she never tried to flip things back onto me or blame anyone around her if something she did failed. It was a good marriage, and I look back on it as time well spent; if only cut far too short.

What opened my eyes, however, was getting back into the dating scene. Standards by the Tsar Bomba. And how! Height, weight, physical attributes, paycheque, you name it. Hard standards, beneath which any potential candidate was immediately dismissed. And this was at-wall and post-wall!

After a few very disastrous attempts at dating, where many/most either dumped me immediately for being “inadequate” on some metric or tried to seduce me on the first/second date (I am not “rich” as the wealthy would define it, but I am to the standards of most), I started paying heed to things I had heard for most of my life. I came to MGTOW via TheRedPill, and quickly realized that the kind of woman I would want to be with simply doesn’t exist in our society anymore. Or, at least, not in numbers that would make the search for that person a viable prospect in any risk/reward ratio.

So here I am, a MGTOW who just sort of “fell into it”. I guess I am one of the lucky ones - never truly devastated, just a slow realization of what the world is like, and how to best protect myself from it. Plus, plenty of examples of how things can truly go bad from the people around me.

beanderthal · 2017-10-05T15:43:29+00:00

I kept thinking the next girl would be 'the one' and eventually I realised that there is no such thing as 'the one'

Thanks to folks on here and writers like the dude who wrote the rational male. I'd be depressed as fuck if it wasn't for mgtow.

jkarovskaya · 2017-10-05T17:58:39+00:00

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2017-10-05T15:23:49+00:00

It's true in my case too but I'm a gen X-er and was not born into the Internet. The percentage of those "sexually-frustrated virgins" among those is way higher. However, they possess lots of knowledge that people of my generation did not and it appears that their sex drives are not as strong on average. Therefore, they are not that sexually-frustrated after all considering the fact that the free high def porn is way better than the average sex anyway. They are also mostly immune to shame-guilting. This is my observation anyway for what it's worth...

2017-10-05T15:43:51+00:00

I'm sure there are definitely some incel's of varying age that have gone MGTOW. The main difference is incel's still pursue pussy (like TRP's) but also continue to put women on a pedestal and relationships with them as the ultimate prize in life. MGTOW's have largely sworn off women in any serious capacity and have learned you don't need a woman in your life 24/7 to suck your dick to justify your existence to the rest of the world.

Cabshear · 2017-10-05T15:56:40+00:00

I try very hard to not play the blame game. However....

Religon was what caused my acceptance of Egoism/atheism/objectivism.

Democrats/Republican ideaologies led me to accept some Anarchistic (classic definition) belifes.

Women and the hoops I had to jump through, the unrealistic standards, the unchecked undisciplined hypergamy, mysandry, the gaslighting, blame shifting, lies, shit tests, foolish games, emotional whims, irrationality, loss of my kids, the forced redistribution of my income despite a cheating ex who initiated the divorce. After all this, being told to my face that I needed to just man up and take it. Men are stronger and they can shoulder the weight of what is an obvious tyrany.

...This is why I went my own way.

2017-10-05T17:39:57+00:00

You know the thing is that as much as it is fun to watch the sub count grow, the real power of mgtow lies with its total disinterest in doing anything. We don't want to grow or change anything. This is above all why they double down on stupidity and cliches.

They fear us because they see no weaknesses.

rebuildingMyself · 2017-10-05T20:12:38+00:00

Virgin shaming is the goto for hamsters to shut down debate or uncomfortable topics like "there exists men out there that don't want to give me attention"

Ex-guitarist · 2017-10-05T14:49:13+00:00

I'm in LTR, but ready to go full MGTOW if the shit hits the fan.
I think we're a lot in this case here.

Fyodor007 · 2017-10-05T16:11:39+00:00

It's hard to leave a place you've never been to.

Most of us are pretty similar in that we have been blue pilled at one point, we have had LTRs and been honorable while the girl we treated right treated us like shit and cheated, we tried a few more times because we were stubborn or hopeful, realized AWALT, and disconnected.

2017-10-05T18:25:49+00:00

I've dated many women, had a lot of sex, several long-term relationships...it all nearly ruined my life

TheNightmareCinema · 2017-10-05T19:31:38+00:00

life must be really shit if the only way to have value is to have had sex. especially with a thing animals do all the time. like you could be the dude who solves a way to cure every disease known to man but if you haven't had sex you're not worth anything and have zero value. this shit really doesn't make any sense. But then again we have people who idolize kim kardashian and other people like her.

rebuildingMyself · 2017-10-05T20:31:09+00:00

Personally, my path went this way:

mensrights -> PUA -> TRP -> MGTOW

Got burned during the PUA/TRP stages by a few crazy bitches (one threatened the good ole false rape accusation to get my attention because I was doing the horrifying act of ignoring her).

MGTOW since then because I won't let some woman have that kind of power over me again

SethTheSpy · 2017-10-05T21:37:13+00:00

I'm MGTOW and I am gay, I became this way because of a bisexual boyfriend I had who got digged so hard by a woman to take him away from me that women became ruined to me.

Why did she attempt so hard to get him?

1) She thought he had money. (In reality, I was the one with the heavy wallet). 2) He's not exactly average looking, he's sorta handsome. 3) She aimed to keep the appartment we shared at downtown. (Which my family owns)

Sad part to this story is that when he dumped me for her saying "he was a goner" for her, I happily told him he could leave my house and find happiness with her. A couple months later I got to know she dumped him when she found out his freelance ass couldn't afford her all the luxuries she was expecting.

In resume: I am fucking glad I'm gay and I don't have to deal with these bitches. ~

jkarovskaya · 2017-10-05T16:26:11+00:00

I'm glad they dismiss us as incels and don't take us seriously. The longer we're under the radar the better.

MGTOWManofMystery · 2017-10-05T17:45:20+00:00

We need a MGTOW census. I for one have the scars to prove I've been with women too, too much and often -- until I got wise.

2017-10-05T18:26:15+00:00

I've dated many women, had a lot of sex, several long-term relationships...it all nearly ruined my life

IWontBowDown · 2017-10-05T17:49:29+00:00

I understand that I can be frustrating for some MGTOW going their own way to not be able to 'get a girl' even if they wanted to short of devoting all their free time to it. With that said, aside from some emotional distress that could cause until they move on, it is really a blessing. Being with a girl could be fun and rewarding (physically) but the negatives soon outweigh any positives. Any self respecting man will not tolerate their behavior and this causes too much abuse and grief from them. It also opens you up to greater risk of physical abuse and false accusations.

Honestly, anything else can be more rewarding than women and I have never met a woman that could please me more sexually than my hand.

scooter_1975 · 2017-10-05T17:57:19+00:00

"MGTOW critics don't bother to do homework."

Yeah, get used to that shit. We're a movement of radical MRA white supremacists who are fighting for good ol' tradcon values under our leader, Sandman... just in case you skipped the orientation.

Raiden627 · 2017-10-05T23:13:53+00:00

Well yeah dude it makes sense, how would most guys knows WTF they're talking about unless they've experienced it. They can't all be talking out of their asses. We're wired to keep trying again because our bodies want us to procreate and we want that social interaction because it's been long engrained in our DNA that being alone, without children, or away from society has meant certain death. It's only recently that now the option of being a MGTOW is even socially feasible, say for the monks doing so for religious or meditative purposes of yesteryear.

robowriter · 2017-10-05T23:16:24+00:00

I was in deep for many years. I have empathy for many people posting here.

TigPlaze · 2017-10-06T01:47:00+00:00

Yeah I had a girlfriend and am in pretty good shape now. Not sure where this stereotype comes that we're all short obese neckbeards.

2017-10-05T18:26:25+00:00

I've dated many women, had a lot of sex, several long-term relationships...it all nearly ruined my life

Simpsgalore · 2017-10-05T18:35:08+00:00

How could you possibly know this?

2017-10-05T19:28:11+00:00

I've dated many women, had a lot of sex, several long-term relationships...it all nearly ruined my life

Helikzhan · 2017-10-05T20:51:48+00:00

They misrepresent everyone these days. M'motions are more important than any facts.

2017-10-05T21:55:29+00:00

I'm certain the Church created Heliocentrism. It's flat.

Camp_KillYourself · 2017-10-06T01:07:34+00:00

Anecdote

batfish55 · 2017-10-06T15:51:54+00:00

You know why cults exist? I mean the crazy ones. The Jim Jones, Heaven's Gate, Scientology, cults.

Most people, at some point in their lives, go through some kind of personal crisis. They're desperate for something to make life make sense again. They're desperate for answers. Something, anything. Me? I found the manosphere when my fiancee left and I was looking for game advice on how to beat the smartphone's attention/validation.

Your wife/gf leaves you. If you've been together for a long time, that's sure as hell going to be some kind of personal crisis. What do I do with my life now without her?

Enter RPT. That shit'll shed plenty of light on a female-induced personal crisis. With this in mind, you're totally right.

Now, I've gone far too far down this rabbit hole to ever come back out, I'm no longer objective about it. It still makes sense, and I'm not in my own personal crisis anymore. Maybe we are a cult. Maybe this is all a lie. Maybe the fems are right, though I doubt it. And we'll probably never know for sure, since the only people who browse the manosphere are either in like Flynn, or SJW haters; nobody impartial. I can't say if it IS bullshit or not....it just continues to make too gaddamn much sense. I'm in till the end.

Title	Most MGTOWs I've met have had girlfriends
Author	TigPlaze
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Date	October 5, 2017 2:45 PM UTC (6 years ago)
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