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Title Poor guy
Author Marfi09
Upvotes 472
Comments 63
Date August 1, 2021 8:59 AM UTC (1 year ago)
Subreddit /r/MGTOW
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/poor-guy.796361
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/ovotos/poor_guy/
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[–]TheFuckinWeeb 199 points200 points  (9 children) | Copy Link

The worst part is that most his friends will abandon him because the girls call him creep and they don't want to be associated with the creep because it will hurt their chances with the girls(which is probably not very high to begin with)

[–]M1L03 68 points69 points  (6 children) | Copy Link

Well, not true. Real friends don't do that. I was hanging out with guys like this all my life (from elementary school to uni). You can imagine that I wasn't the most popular guy with girls because of that, even though girls were finding me atractive. I was confronted numorous times by this girls why do I hang out with this or that "creep". I always told them how things were: "He is a good guys and a good friend. He couldn't chose his appearance, if that is what bothers you about him. I'd chose him over those popular a-holes any time of the day."

Yes, most people avoid them because of that stigma, but I wasn't the only "normal" guy hanging out with them.

[–]CyclopeWarrior 32 points33 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

It's still true though. "Didn't happen to me and my group" ain't exactly a discredit to reality.

[–]TP_Crisis_2020 7 points8 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I was a nerd in high school and all the friends in our nerd group didn't give a fuck about impressing women. It was kind of like involuntary MGTOW without realizing it. The only people who would bail on their friend group are simps who care about what women think, and it's a stretch to call people like that real friends.

[–]CyclopeWarrior 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Well we are where we are cause of simping aren't we. I'm just saying it's a reality we must face that a lot of bros fall into the honey trap.

[–]M1L03 -3 points-2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I don't know, man. From my expirience every class had a three guilds: normies, geeks and snobs. I've met only one true lonly wolf in my whole life (and it was his choice, he wasn't an outcast), except for him everyone could feet in at least one group, if not all three.

[–]CyclopeWarrior 10 points11 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

There's a reason why we see so many jokes of friends disappearing from the group after they get a gf man. Usually the loners gravitate towards each other, and the "by choice" lie people tell it's just because for them it's too much work to keep up the social appearances. Men don't tend to have the social benefits women have.

[–]Jihocech_Honza 12 points13 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


These are not friends.

[–]deathtocontrollers 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link


Simps can never be your friend. The simp can only be a friend to women. In fact, I'd rather be friends with a woman than a simp because at least the bitch wont throw me under the bus every time women are around. And women only make annoying friends if they see you as a simp desperately trying to claw your way into any vagina. Because then their opportunistic nature will tell them to take advantage of that by turning you into an emotional tampon etc...

[–]felafelsmoke 141 points142 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

I think the majority of complaints about ‘creepy’ guys are just women seeing unattractive guys going about their day

[–]Aaod 25 points26 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

That is the conclusion I came to because I once got called creepy for sitting at a university library studying quietly by myself. All I am doing is sitting and doing math homework, but that is somehow creepy?

[–]gfgdhj5784yu8 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I experienced the same. Just shaming language bullshit to show disapproval and jealousy towards a man with a purpose outside of petty social circles.

This behavioral phenominon is officailly know as "Crab Mentality".

[–]Global_MGTOW 139 points140 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Creep= ugly. I learned this from an early age from my female relatives and friends. Noticed from a young age that if someone considered ugly said anything, it was considered creepy. Attractive guy can be completely vulgar and most girls would laugh and flirt with him, he was never considered creepy.

[–]Kindly-Town 41 points42 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

In workplace, women call this sexual harrasment.

[–]silly_birb_Banned 89 points90 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Modern women identify with their sexuality, they are their sexuality and nothing else.

So if hot guys look at her she thinks she gains social points, if ugly one do she lose points.

It's all a childish highschool mentality that women have because they don't want to let go of adolescence

Why? Because being an adult means dealing with consequences which are women's kryptonite.

Patriarchy put the man as head of the family because he can handle consequences but feminism forced all women to agree to be "independent" or be shamed as bigots (same for being sluts)

well done modern women, you played yourself into a society you cannot mentally handle!

[–]kupalkayoredditmods 30 points31 points  (2 children) | Copy Link


There is a reason why men are heads of households. Why they are the head of the family. Family, which is the basic unif of society.

These simp politicians are destroying patriarchy.

[–]Canute87 16 points17 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

weak men destroy nations.

[–]kupalkayoredditmods 7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I believe that the universe is a balance. Yin and yang. The left has abused it’s position for a long time. And it is getting worse. Too much right wing principles is bad as well and can lead to fascism. Everything in a balance. Men doing their role as leader and the women to take care of the offspring.

[–]ypvha 57 points58 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

remember guys the difference between being flirty and being creepy is 100% your looks.

[–]Marvinkmooneyoz 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

not quite 100%. Money, pre-selection, actual regular behavior, these do all play a role. BUT, looks play WAY more of a role then most people are admitting. Also, people arent admitting how strong of an INDIRECT role it plays in who they like/dislike, as in, young men dont want to be friends with ugly guys, for indirect reasons.

[–]ypvha 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

well said. I have a five figure sum in the bank and women are not lining up left and right to be with me (I am perfectly okay with that). but then again I also don't go around bragging about how much money I really have in the bank, if I did do you have any idea how quickly some blonde bimbo with big tits would want to date my morbidly obese ass? lol

[–]grassbladeX 51 points52 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

This is how girls actually create school shooters. Then the media crucifies the "loser". No one talks about what torture they went through to make them what they became.

[–]mjr_awesome 28 points29 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

That's because they're not interested in finding actual solutions to this and other problems in today's society.

A white kid mowing down a bunch of his peers perfectly fits their anti-white, anti-male, anti-second-amendment narrative. "Keep the masses fighting, while we grab all the fucking money and power."

[–]Throwawaylabordayfun 19 points20 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The target and harass the same person everyday until they break and then once it happens they say. SEE HE WAS CRAZY!!!!

[–]Miserable-Lemon 40 points41 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

Women absolutely love destroying people. Without even the understanding of empathy, you're stuck with this nightmare

[–]deathtocontrollers 9 points10 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Women are extremely sadistic. That's why they become obsessed with men who get on their bad side. It's not enough for such men to only be punished once... You know that saying, "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned." It's true because of their sadism. Take the most sadistic man on Earth and his level of sadism will be on the same level as a woman's. Most stalkers are probably men but the worst stalkers are definitely women. Every time I saw a woman inflicting pain and suffering on someone else or myself, I looked at their faces and it was like they were having sex with the number one Chad in the universe. It was like seeing right through their mask and into their soul. Only men who have zero experience with women, see them as innocent snowflakes. So they don't call men "creepy" just to shit on men who are not attractive. They also do it for fun. If there is no "creepy" men around, they just shit on women who they see as unattractive or anyone else lower in the hierarchy so they can get off. That's why women with a low SMV are afraid of being around women with a high SMV. A lot of women put themselves in situations to encourage men to make moves on them, JUST so they can reject these men in the worst possible way because they feed off that pain. A lot of women will pretend they want to fuck you, just to change their mind at the last second to make you suffer.

[–]Aaod 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

If not for needing us to have society function women would gladly send the bottom 80% of men to death camps and feel NOTHING about it because they are incapable of empathy.

[–]deathtocontrollers 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

True but they know their standard of living will be third world if they do that. So they pretend to tolerate all men. And they also need unattractive men for after they hit the wall. Because they know the attractive men(at least if they aren't mentally ill or gigolos) will focus on the attractive women.

[–]aknabi 31 points32 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And call a 5’2 300lb girl unhealthy, obese or of course “fat” and you’ll be suspended or expelled for being toxic. But then I guess punishing women for being toxic is “unfair” as it’s built into their firmware.

[–]Cro_Bro_ 23 points24 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

Couple of weeks ago i was at a high school reunion party and most beautiful girl from my clasd told me she would fuck every part of my body expect my face. I didn't say anything because i dont like to kick people who are down. + her current boyfriend isnt as half as good looking as i am.

[–]kupalkayoredditmods 35 points36 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

The response should always be “meh”.

They are not worth your time.

[–]Cro_Bro_ 11 points12 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I agree

[–]meegtower 18 points19 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

she would fuck every part of my body expect my face

But if you say you would not fuck any part of her body she'll accuse you of rape.

[–]Canute87 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Why would you want her to fuck your face though?

[–]joselyncanosbutt 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Let me guess she is a fat Karen and works a shitty job?

[–]Gravy_Gecko 15 points16 points  (7 children) | Copy Link

They're doing him a favor.

The sad thing is that, once he's rich and successful, they will suddenly not find him creepy any longer and he will most likely be unprepared for the manipulation that will be mobilized against him.

Some gold-digger will destroy him.

[–]TooTarded4U 24 points25 points  (5 children) | Copy Link

He's never going to be rich or successful. That's a false-hope lie told to keep the rejects from committing suicide, because the world needs burger flippers at McDonalds.

In what world do socially rejected people, who have been psychologically tortured for years, overcome overwhelming challenges to become wealthy?

Becoming wealthy requires support and networking. Someone coming from a broken family with no network, and carrying loads of emotional trauma, is not going to magically become wealthy.

Most likely he'll commit suicide around his 16th birthday, or end up working as a cashier in a pharmacy.

[–]Apprehensive-Drop819 12 points13 points  (3 children) | Copy Link

The likely scenario. The folks that grow up essentially "bullied" seem to follow a pattern.

Either they use their suffering as motivation to put in the work to be able to overcome and find that niche in life that allows them to survive or even excel ......... or they just get stuck at the bottom mentally and are motivationally crippled.

...... and yeah if someone is like the guy above and everyone universally sees him as a creep, having a "normal" job and being a regular guy is not going to get him anywhere. The only way out is to put tons of effort in to finding a niche.

[–]TooTarded4U 21 points22 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

For every underdog story about a bullied nerd who became rich, there are millions of unreported bullied who suicide. Life isn't a Disney movie. Being bullied doesn't give you "strength", it breaks you until you can't get up anymore because all your bones are broken, sometimes literally.

[–]Apprehensive-Drop819 5 points6 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Dam looks like they banned you for spreading too many Red Pill truth bombs.

[–]deathtocontrollers 2 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

And the rich and wealthy don't want poor men being class conscious so they never have to deal with unions, strikes etc... Because without that bullshit myth, most men will realize, they are doomed to be low status and will want to improve their situation instead of just working and hoping they will make a lot of money one day. Women aren't the only group of people who deceive men on a daily basis...

[–]techstural 16 points17 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I didn't even look at or make contact with those girls at that moment... and yet I'm a creep? How?

That is more likely the problem. Those girls are just trying to provoke some attention from him. Even if they don't desire your acquaintance, it is expected. (So they can spurn it?) Oh, and some are even especially intrigued by shy/unresponsive ones. GYOW

[–]Rameslayer 10 points11 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Repeat after me brothers: “It’s harassment/creepy only if you’re ugly”.

[–]Corn_in_your_pussy 6 points7 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Fuck. Women are such trash for this exact reason.

[–]21354641651484 5 points6 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I know it sounds stupid, but do you even lift, bro?

I used to be a really skinny guy, got no respect. After gaining about 40lbs of muscle, people look at and treat me like a different person. People who used to "jokingly" tease me about whatever don't do that anymore.

You can't change how your face looks or how tall you are, but you can lose weight and/or build muscle.

[–]Fallen1729 4 points5 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Some girls have such low awareness. It should be obvious to them that the reason they think he is a creep is his bad looks, not that he actually is one. Upon realising this they should acknowledge their bias and not make the false derogatory comment.

[–]stunspot 4 points5 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I have to wonder how many of those women knew how cruel they were being and how many were just unthinking in their lack of human decency.

[–]Aaod 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

how many were just unthinking in their lack of human decency.

They don't think of men especially ugly men as human beings which is why they don't have human decency. Them being cruel to you does not even register to them because to them you are not even a human fucking being you are like a piece of wood nobody thinks much of someone who breaks a board it is just an object.

[–]Encrypted587 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

You realise that women are the most shallow fucks ever

[–]hismyhobby 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Creepy is like the worst thing ever to be called by a girl. Has a lot of power that word

[–]Ok-Wolverine-6660 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Go win the lotto and you won't be a creep any longer believe me.....

[–]TooTarded4U 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

Being labeled "creep" is not just being ugly.

It's also how you behave, your attitude, and that attitude is a result of being raised by a single mother.

You are running womens mental programming in the body of a man, that's why it's so "creepy" to women.

When they look at you, they see a wolf wearing sheeps clothing, they perceive it as a sneak-attack.

They can tell that your behavior is not genuine.

Dude might also have autism as well. Lots of people with autism are undiagnosed. For a person with autism, all social interaction is "fake", it's recited/scripted. The social cortex of the brain is not there, can't process all the non-verbal communication, so he makes lots of social mistakes without knowing he's doing so.

All of the social behaviors of an autistic person come across as "ungenuine", because it's basically acting, the emotion is fake. So when they see this "acting", they're repulsed, it's like "uncanny valley", talking to a robot that is behaving like a human, but you can still tell it's not a human, and THAT'S "creepy".

[–]zeke_a88 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

You have no idea what you're talking about.

[–]moriarty_056 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link


[–]Un4dv4nc3d_Gam1ng 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

This is sexual harrasment but who cares it's just a man isn't that right

[–]Marvinkmooneyoz 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

creepiness is not defined specifically by what one DOES. What one IS is plenty sufficient to be creepy, by definition. This is unfortuante, and frankly, women are doing themselves a diservice by having no possible sense of shame or self-reflection about their knee-jerk reactions/feelings. But strictly in terms of weather or not some of us are creeps, despite the lack of creepy BEHAVIOR, the answers yes. Some of our very existence serves to creep them out.

[–]deathtocontrollers 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's no different than calling women "ugly" or "fat" or "slutty" etc... Yet we have these double standards that make it okay to mentally abuse men.

[–]drmangrum 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

It's part of the blame and shame tactics they just to get you back on the plantation. If you're not worshipping at the very of a woman, you're to be ostracized and othered.

[–]analogic-microwave 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

The more you react, pay attention and waste time justifying yourself, the more they'll do it. That's what they want from everyone, "creep" or not. Reaction, attention. Stay indifferent to their existence and they'll eat themselves to death.

[–]FritzLane 0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

a "creep" to women is simply a sexually undesirable man attempting to participate in or appearing to be attempting to participate in the dating/mating game

if you really want to see "creepy" behavior observe women when they encounter a chad/man they're super sexually attracted to

[–]Sadlifeofsmalldick -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

what sub is this

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