PUA vs Escorts

DangZagnut · 2018-12-02T15:47:37+00:00

Pull up pornhub. $0.00
Wank. $0.00
Pull up YT with PUA nonsense for entertainment. $0.00

Total cost: $0.00

Orgasms per month: 30-120.

Rape charges: 0

Unwanted child support: $0.00.

BottleCap-SnackTrap · 2018-12-02T16:09:28+00:00

Why would I want to spend my money on a escort when I can spend my money on video gaming/ nutritional food/ phone bill/ internet service?

LesterBurnham3409 · 2018-12-02T14:39:32+00:00

Go to thailand (or really any other non 1st world country) and increase the bangs per dollar ten fold.

TruthfulHaploid · 2018-12-02T14:23:03+00:00

This is good but prostitution is illegal, so men are forced into the pussy plantation.

hominid_mgtow · 2018-12-02T14:31:00+00:00

So this is what real pua is. I thought it was just being cheesy.

630am_now · 2018-12-02T18:58:43+00:00

Jerk off: $0

Feeling, "Damn, these damn hormones are pretty powerful. It's weird how the LAST thing I want after jerking off is a woman. Thank God I didn't open okcupid or some shite and waste my fucking time": Priceless

Paladin2903 · 2018-12-02T16:34:29+00:00

PUA is all mostly just common sense mixed with pure bullshit. The coaches mostly add the bullshit in to give ugly guys false hope.

For instance, I think anyone can figure out that it takes confidence to get women, correct? Now, this is where the coaches will come in and say “this can work for anyone!” Bullshit.

You need to have something to back this confidence up, otherwise it’s just phony bullshit that will be exposed, and if you don’t look good enough, your confidence level doesn’t really mean a whole lot.

You need to be at least fairly good looking. I’m sorry, but I don’t care how much “confidence” a guy that’s a “1” has, he isn’t ever going to get a girl that’s anywhere even remotely cute or hot.

At the end of the day, you don’t need a coach to figure this shit out. They’re snake oil salesman, selling common sense that you can easily figure out on your own, and they’re also selling bullshit and false hope. It’s nothing more than a scam.

Frosty1990 · 2018-12-02T16:22:27+00:00

I do agree PUA is a scam but it does have some benefit in improving your life and likelihood of getting laid. One thing it shows you is to how to talk to woman. I read up on it and practice but never went as far as to pay a coach everyone has a style that works for them

SmamelessMe · 2018-12-02T23:35:30+00:00

I'm not exactly keen on playing devil's advocate for PUA, but if you spend $400 for Voice lessons, $1k for fashion and $2k for Boot camp per month, you have bigger problems.

I don't exactly condone spending money on PUA lectures, but it's about learning how to fish once vs buying fish for the rest of your life, so to speak.

gimme_wood · 2018-12-02T16:48:40+00:00

PUA is bullshit. TRP works a little better.. eg improve yourself, approach, don't be needy.. but still too much pussy pedestalizing. I got laid last night and I only spent a few hours and $10. No PUA techniques required.

[deleted] · 2018-12-02T17:11:51+00:00

Men should stop paying. If women are not in your life without paying money. Well what is the conclusion that can be made? ... also why do men have to use all sorts of trickery to get laid?

The most attractive men get probably invited for sex. The rest will be exploited for it. Thats it.

This is how disgusting the world is. And you men have all been manipulated into action to go and stay at that fuckin plantation. Wether you have to pay expensive escorts or marry and beg there for your treat, where is the difference?

Talking about toxic masculinity is then the tip of the iceberg.

SalamiKitten · 2018-12-02T20:39:48+00:00

Speaking of Germany where prositution (privately, not organized in brothels) is legal, i dont understand why anyone would become a pua over here

fmanly · 2018-12-02T21:37:28+00:00

I think you're missing the real point. With escorts you're paying them to go away...

Beeinkc9 · 2018-12-02T22:50:50+00:00

7 plus years every night? What about the opportunity cost?

In that time you could have developed a side business, mastered a musical instrument, learned another language, restored a classic car....

Kratz177 · 2018-12-02T16:54:15+00:00

Check out Eros and Seeking arrangement to find girls. From real life experience not the internet, girls will have sex with the following guys: 1-(Money)Guys who pay them sugar daddies or Johns(2 per month) 2-(Status) Guys who can offer them transactional value for instance club promoters, drug dealers, acting coaches, hosts, bosses(2 per month) 3-(Looks) The make model who messaged them on IG(1 per month) this is possible but it’s much less so than people think, since girls are superficial. 4-(Game) PUA Rare and actually only girls who are much older(30’s/40s), this is why PUA’s talk about ‘milf game’ but girls on their prime (0 per month PUA’s)

3rd_viewpoint · 2018-12-02T19:35:25+00:00

I need clarification on the math assumption here.

PUA(“alpha” strategy) Voice lessons $400

$400 per month on the voice lessons? How many months of training do you need to get the result?

Fashion/Clothes $1000

$1000 per month on clothes? As far as I understand, it's an expense that's made once or twice per year and the clothes serve you 2 to 5 years. Something is wrong here with the assumption.

Bootcamp $2000

If it's a PUA boot camp, you take it once and the skills stay with you, supposedly. You don't take these every month, do you?

Texting mastery(1 púa product) $80

Also, you buy this product once, you don't purchase it again all the time , right?

Beeinkc9 · 2018-12-02T22:22:46+00:00

It took you seven years to figure out that PUA is just a money maker for coaches?

You're a slow learner.

bfte2 · 2018-12-03T00:25:52+00:00

You don't even have to pay for condoms. Sometimes they give you drinks on the house.

Prostitutes are also more honest than your standard issue wymyn. No bullshit games. Chances are, they also had less dick in them than the stronk indypyndynts you see at the bar.

[deleted] · 2018-12-02T16:03:03+00:00

My conclusion is the pua is one of the least effective ways to get laid and mainly works to make coaches money.

Well, that too. But it's the same thing for any "training" program these days.

I am older and I started reading PUA material from the get go (free online resources, and books) and it worked "well enough" for me, meaning that it got me laid a lot. Then I discovered TRP and things changed for the better.

The TD;DR: comparison and contrast is:

PUA teaches you to be a better seller
TRP teaches you to be a better product (higher SMV)

Now that I am GMOW I see that PUA was actually pretty Beta.

anongogogo · 2018-12-02T16:11:03+00:00

You don't need game if you got $$$ PUA is a waste of time.

eduardkoopman · 2018-12-02T20:18:24+00:00

In your calculation. Which is the biggest money factor as well with most pua:
The (money) value of time.
Maybe it takes a guy on average 40 hours of approaching+dating+etc. to get laid.
Whereas an escort only costs like 3 hours.
And maybe in that time, fos example making 15 per hour, one could had earned alot as well.

I think for most pua. It's mostly even not just about the sex. It's more about the (female-)validation, the ego boost, that a woman found you good enough to sleep with. SO to enhance their sense of self worth.

Lavendercrimson12 · 2018-12-02T20:34:50+00:00

This is only my opinion, and I mean no offense, but most so called pick up artists are nothing but socially manipulative sexual predators who pray on vapid, insecure women.

ApertureBear · 2018-12-03T01:04:22+00:00

Be attractive.
Don't be unattractive.

_CompetitiveFriend_ · 2018-12-03T01:18:28+00:00

You've been had. Experience is your teacher, keep learning that way. Stop spending your money enriching snake oil salesmen.

iMeat · 2018-12-03T11:25:24+00:00

PUA just sounds so ridiculous to me.

Ohboohoolittlegirl · 2018-12-03T11:10:41+00:00

There's truth in the silver lining of PUA, but a lot of guys are on there to take money of insecure simps,who they then tell some basic truths and some stereotyping of men. Then they tell them: It's a numbers game, cause for simps and BP men it is and then send them on their way. Alpha is a scale and the biggest CON on the PUA is that one can become pure alpha by practice. You Can't and you won't.. Looksmaxing is pointless if you aren't chad and will only attract women who think you can afford to do so.

Other things like: Lifting, learning to be a stoic and general reading of body language has been very useful to me. Body language doesn't differ much between men and women and I;ve made a lot of use of it, also professionally.

Title	PUA vs Escorts
Author	Kratz177
Upvotes	54
Comments	51
Date	December 2, 2018 2:21 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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