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really AWALT? what about childfree women?

August 21, 2017


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Title really AWALT? what about childfree women?
Author hb8only
Upvotes 6
Comments 16
Date August 21, 2017 6:27 PM UTC (5 years ago)
Subreddit /r/MGTOW
Archive Link https://theredarchive.com/r/MGTOW/really-awalt-what-about-childfree-women.562450
Original Link https://old.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comments/6v4wpw/really_awalt_what_about_childfree_women/
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[–]rtmlex12 points13 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

Virtue signaling, mostly. Ended two past relationships with women who were strongly against children at first, but as time passed and the wall was coming, they know their time was up and got bsby rabies. Not with me, bruh. Also, childfree women do this for the same reason they ride the CC: they think they'll be young and hot forever.

[–]happpster7 points8 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

I'm childfree myself and I've browsed that subreddit before. I see a lot feminist and social warrior types there. A lot of them still do want marriage though.

It also seems like some of them have a void to fill.

[–]jupiter66664 points5 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

If they are actually sterile, that's fine. But a lot of them aren't and are just virtue signalling/playing social game until they get knocked up.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child) | Copy Link

how can you be sure about her being sterile? can any doctor "check her" for you and give you an official document about it?

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

When a women who does not have a baby holds another women's baby their brains are flooded with oxytocin. That is a powerful hormone that will bring on the babies rabies. Women whether they like it or not they are controlled by their biology and that is why you can't listen to a word they say. A women can tell you she does not want to have kids but all it takes is holding 1 baby and her brain chemistry is forever changed!

[–]Mgtow_Maester2 points3 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

I can see how CF women appear like the closest thing to a nawalt. A lot of them talk about how much they love their hubby etc. Personally, I don't buy it.

It makes no sense if you've freed yourself from the shackles of kids to then walk into the prison of a committed relationship. They're still women and are still looking for someone to slave away for them (and only them in the case of CF women). I think they'd expect constant princess treatment and an extravagant lifestyle. After all, with no kids to support you can work those long hours just to make her happy (what a great deal eh?).

A lot of CF women admit to mental health issues being a reason for their cfdom and a lot post in r/raisedbynarcissists. You'd be a full time unpaid therapist for her. And if you don't meet her standards she'd have even less reason to keep you around than if she was a mother (no kids to consider). Hypergamy on steroids. I'm sure they'd make great fuck buddies but awalt still stands.

[–]Shimakaze42 points3 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

The issue is, if you were to get married and then divorced, you still might be on the hook for alimony payments and she's still going to take half your money and assets at least. Also, a lot of women say they don't want kids, but they get hit by that biological urge as they get to 30 and 35, the baby rabies is a powerful thing. I went out with a girl in my early 20's who was absolutely sure she didn't want children. I stalked her facebook page and she now has kids, she's 36, so the rabies struck her.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

All women want children. That's their whole meaning in life

[–]Marque011 point2 points  (2 children) | Copy Link

And don't think you can just fake it by using protection or pulling out. If you don't knock them up, they'll find some cock out there to do the job, then try to stick you with the bill.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (1 child) | Copy Link

And then you hit her with vasectomy surprise

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

What do children have to do with alimony payments?

[–]Samsam_Momo0 points1 point  (0 children) | Copy Link

children are not the main downfall of a relationship. Hell, they're one of the few positives. The downfall is that your sacrificing a shit load of your soul into someone who will leave you brokenhearted and miserable. Date these girls. Do it. You'll see. You'll see the enormous amount of energy that is wasted.

By the way, I wasn't being serious don't actually date those girls it's a horrible decision.

[–]RadicalAsceticMonk-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

Hahaha, this reminds me of Chris-chan and his (xir?) quest for a "boyfriend-free girl".

[–]Deadpanpancakes-1 points0 points  (0 children) | Copy Link

There is no doubt that some women wont act on their hypergamy. The statement of AWALT is not that all women will act in a way that the broader manosphere has characterized them, but that women as a whole have an evolved nature.

Women with children put their offspring first. The man with the resources wins, etc.

Childfree women are different but they aren't someone free from their innate biological urges. Chad is still chad. This is an argument about biological determinism vs social determinism. On the one hand, we have our biological being which constrains our motivations to conform with our evolved preferences. On the other hand, society dictates to us what we must find attractive and what an ideal person should strive for. Take the most socially sophisticated and educated woman and observe what she "feels" when a handsome chad exits his Lambo in front of her. Does she feel the tingles?

More to the topic of childfree though.. some of these women will undoubtedly feel the desire to have kids once the biological hourglass is running out of sand. I think a lot of these women are deceiving themselves. They aren't against the idea of having kids. They are against what having a child in the 21st century does to you. The free time you lose, financially, etc. Under different social circumstances, these women would want children.

You can kill a man, but you can't kill an idea.

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