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[–][deleted] 433 points434 points435 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
Women love to objectify themselves. It gives them the easiest life if men continue simping for their holes.
[–]LiveTheTruth321137 points138 points139 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Only men can give those objects value and it is now to where the objects and the pursuit of them is worthless. Of course women will say they're priceless instead.
Edit: wording
[–]beenthere78966 points67 points68 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
As a former simp and worshipper of female holes pre GYOW , can confirm.
[–]Psyyko4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There's nothing wrong with worshipping holes as long as you're getting what you want. Pussy is delicious. If i have to tell a lie to get it, i'm more than fine with it. At the end of the day i'm not being a sucker. I'm using them. I'm manipulating them with words, and i'm getting laid, which feels a lot better than getting laid. You only have a problem when you become way too emotional over pussy. You get attached to bitches, and you get angry and frustrated when they don't get attached to you the same way you are to them. It's all a matter of perceptions and expectations. You must enter the relationship knowing it is going to end, so don't give her everything. Use her while you can. When you no longer can, just move on. Accept life as it is. Stop being angry for it not being like a romantic movie.
[–]Patricijaobjectdude24 points25 points26 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
When women say they don't want men to objecity them, stare at them, treat them like shit etc..
They leave out the "ugly/broke/short/shy" right being the "men" so it sounds like they mean it in general.
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Women are the worst judges of character. To add to what you said, when they talk about wanting to avoid men who take advantage of them, they genuinely believe they mean what they so it doesn't occur to them that they drop this standard for men they'd consider valuable which results in "where are all the good men gone" after they keep on repeating the same mistake.
[–]darrrd0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Does anyone know the title of the video, in which he asked this question?
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
https://youtu.be/28gvMM8KXm4
[–]Teflon1871 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
haha ive seen this but i missed the end. "get another bitch with a pussy to come on in". you know women had a fit inside when they heard that, yet if they man ever lost his penis, they'd be jumping at this saying " well its only fair right"? or "id do the same if it was for you"
[–]everythingisatoms4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
“Don’t objectify me!”
Proceeds to objectify herself.
[–]greyslopp2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Big tits + big ass = set for life
[–]DigiThug149 points150 points151 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Patrice O'Neal is a legend, I think I have seen all his lessons on women. You won't be able to see the world with the same eyes again.
[–]cowboyfromhell32443 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
I wish I knew someone who existed today that had a brain like him. Brilliant man
[–]Gordon-G17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Listen to old Tom Leykis clips 👍🏽
[–]The_Adeptest_Astarte3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The nappy headed hos guy?
[–]ayram38249 points10 points11 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
no thats don imus
[–]HeadMcCoy3221 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I think it's hilarious that Imus got kicked off the air for that while you had guys like Tom Leykis and Howard Stern test the censorship boards daily
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[–]cowboyfromhell3240 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, he's my favorite living comedian
[–]kubicas36 points37 points38 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Thanks to him I also learned how to live honestly with myself and others. I also accepted my own feelings and the fucking way I am. Thanks to him I feel normal about myself near others and I am very relaxed because living life through TRUTH that cannot be hidden under the sun is so fucking relieving.
[–]greencycles3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
His standup taught you all of this?
[–]CyclopeanJuiceVendor17 points18 points19 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Black Phillip Show, look it up.
[–]Blunt_Sage22 points23 points24 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Patrice was the truth.
[–]StraightShooter20197 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He was an absolute fucking genius for figuring it all out on his own. Every young man should watch all of his videos on YouTube.
[–]Helikzhan1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
His youtube conspiracy videos are a great form of entertainment.
[–]thompsonh2114 points115 points116 points 4 years ago (13 children) | Copy Link
Men, will always be viewed primarily by the amount of financial capital he generates, his performance in certain ways, and his ability to maintain himself and his family and will be valued as such. On the other hand, the women will be valued on the basis of their age, fertility, visual attributes, sexual appearance, and the physical feel and sensation of their bodies. In some instances, the women will be unconditionally loved due to their perceived stereotype of being weak in this world. Children and small animals will also be veiwed the same way.
[–]Skypier43 points44 points45 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
And also anime waifus
[–]Joseph_Memestar6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
Speedwagon? Best
[–]WilliamAllen524 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Good to see a fellow man of culture
[–]Joseph_Memestar1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ah. You're a man of culture as well
[+]Joseph_Memestar-6 points-5 points-4 points 4 years ago* (4 children) | Copy Link
Of course OwO. You too are a man of culture.
Edit: I am a fucking idiot. Kill me.
[–]apugsthrowaway13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Uh ... did you forget to log into your sockpuppet account there, bud?
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/617914243760783381/617914280532115487/unknown.png
[–]Nemoitto5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He def forgot lmaoooo
[–]Skypier4 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bruh lmao
[–]Joseph_Memestar-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Was supposed to respond to someone else lol. Ain't got any sock sockpuppet
[–]ItIsABear5 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This sentence is so true and it's so depressing how stupid our existences are...
[–]Rebalanced_312 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Cake happy my guy
[–]Tabby_N6 points7 points8 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
cake happy
[–]GetGetFresh54 points55 points56 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you lost a vagina in a train accident how would you keep a man beyond I can’t leave this bitch for 2 weeks cuz she just lost her pussy in an accident was the original context.
[–]Amon661Dread7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Classic. Rip
[–]moparoo201737 points38 points39 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you haven’t listened to “the black Phillip show” with Patrice then you’re missing out on some of the best red pill material out there. It’s talk radio and he basically teaches guys not to be pea brained simps and stop letting their woman control their lives. It’s beautiful! It should be required listening for all red pillers.
[–]magx0133 points34 points35 points 4 years ago (43 children) | Copy Link
I love Patrice but this was nothing more than a rhetorical trick. He led them to those answers by making the context sexual to begin with.
[–]ThomasSowell_Alpha49 points50 points51 points 4 years ago (22 children) | Copy Link
I disagree.
He asked what they would do if they lost their vagina.
If the person answers by listing other sexual things they have, that is their assumption that the only way they keep their men, is by sexual intercourse.
If they didn't think that they used sex to keep their man, then their answer would be "insert the actual way they keep their man".
[–]magx010 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
But starting with vagina leads one to think sexually.
[–]FritzLn25 points26 points27 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They always think sexually
[–]ThomasSowell_Alpha13 points14 points15 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sure.
Think about sexuality. Then think about how it isn't sex that keeps your man. (or maybe sex is what keeps them.)
[–]Xaddit0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Why? He didn't say "if you couldn't have sex". He said "if you didn't have a vagina". They were the ones who assumed they would lose sexual appeal...
[–]magx010 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What are vaginas used for in the context of a relationship?
[–]strawberrymilk20 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no they wouldn't. By leading with the "if you lost your vag" premise, the listener is already thinking of ways to replace what was taken away. He might as well be asking "how would you get your man off if you lost your vagina," as it's what everybody's mind will go to automatically. It's not clever or woke; it's obnoxious and doesn't prove any points.
[+]ButtbuttinCreed-17 points-16 points-15 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
If you asked a man the same type of question he would have answered similarly. I mean come on.
[–]Scipio_Amer1canus19 points20 points21 points 4 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
No he wouldn't. We all know the reason why male sex dolls aren't popular with females is because they don't come with wallets. To keep a woman satisfied, the first thing you need is a lot of credit.
[–]ButtbuttinCreed2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Male sex dolls? You mean dildos? They are popular, probably even more so
[–]Scipio_Amer1canus8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
No, I literally meant male sex dolls - full scale.
[–]errrright7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Probably because it’s relatively easy for a woman to get sex from a real man, versus spending thousands on a creepy ass male sex doll.
[–]ButtbuttinCreed3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Because there’s no point? Men would also buy a flesh light before buying a full on sex doll too. I don’t see your point, if they bought a male sex doll instead of a dildo that means something?
[–]errrright-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The top 3 selling sex toys on Amazon are all vibrator/clit stimulator/dildo types - you know, for women’s sexual pleasure. None of these items come with a stable income and good credit.
Try again.
[–]serial_underachiever1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Sex dolls are not the same thing
[–]sweetpineconejuice-2 points-1 points0 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
The original context was about loosing their pussy in a train accident and heavily implied sexuel satisfaction as the main point of the statement. Inform yourself before you cry on the internet, mate
[–]Scipio_Amer1canus8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Women transact sex to gain satisfaction. It's okay chum, you'll learn eventually....
[–]magx013 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
We know this. But this Patrice bit does NOT prove it is all we are saying.
[–]Haywood_Jablomie42-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It does, you're just still popping those blue pills.
You guys are too quick to confuse disagreement on a single point with being a member of an outgroup. I'm as "red pilled" as the come and have been living a mgtow lifestyle for more than six years now.
[–]magx010 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
The original context was about loosing their pussy in a train accident and heavily implied sexuel satisfaction as the main point of the statement.
Exactly. Not sure why these guys are disputing this. It's an obviously leading question.
[–]Haywood_Jablomie42-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not. That's like saying "Men, if you lost your ability to work, how would you keep your woman?" and insisting no man would consider answering something that isn't about money.
[–]magx011 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ya, it would actually.
[–]NohoTwoPointOh8 points9 points10 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And I would agree in spirit until I head over to <insert feminist site here> and see them back slapping and high-fiving because they protest wearing pussy hats.
[–]etebitan170 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thought the same
[–]hassydichammer1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
He said vagina, that's a clinical term. If he had said pussy or something more derogatory I might agree. He didn't say how you would keep your man satisfied either.
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[–]magx015 points6 points7 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Uh, sure.
[–]RazorRex3 points4 points5 points 4 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
No, he's using critical thinking. The line of questioning that he is using is implying and leading down the path of sexuality. How different do you think their answers would be if he didn't use the word vagina? Using the word "vagina" automatically directs people down a sexual line of thinking, as u/magx01 is saying.
And I agree.
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[–]magx012 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I understand the argument and it really just eludes to that fact that most people are easily lead cattle aka NPC. Unable to think for themselves, so pussy-pass granted.
No, no it doesn't. It means people answer questions based on context.
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[–]magx014 points5 points6 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Wow your reading comprehension.....wow.
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[–]Haywood_Jablomie420 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
This thread is fantastic for identifying people who still put pussy on a pedestal while pretending to go their own way.
[–]yooshio0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely.
What you're seeing in real-time is legit cognitive dissonance, and the tourist vs local all playing out.
It's actually fantastic for demonstrating groupthink and the poor state of discourse in the internet age.
[–]Raider_Scavver10 points11 points12 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolute Legend
[–]markentingh7 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (11 children) | Copy Link
To be fair, the question at hand was focused on removing one of their holes, so of course they were focused on their holes.
[–]ThomasSowell_Alpha12 points13 points14 points 4 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
But it is still their fault for accepting and continuing the premise that it is sexual activity that keeps their men with them.
If they didn't agree with the idea that sex is what keeps them their men, then they would just say something like, "by being the same person that I am today who my man has fallen in love with"
[–]magx017 points8 points9 points 4 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
You are missing the fact that humans answer questions based on context.
[–]ThomasSowell_Alpha-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, the context was, how to keep your man after you lose a part of yourself.
It wasn't "how to sexually satisfy your man without a vagina".
The only point I will conceed, is that, when a question like that is asked on stage, and the answers are just blurted out by audience members, It is likely that people will shout "My asshole, or Mouth/BJ's" as that is funny and relevant, and the people who are thinking "Sex isn't what keeps my man around" probably don't feel the need to shout that out, or at least it takes them some more time than the "My asshole" girls, to think of how to respond. and by that point, he's already got the women who screamed out "my asshole / My mouth".
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Yea, a vagina.
Yes, it was.
[–]ThomasSowell_Alpha0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Only if you accept his premise though. And you are free to reject his premise. But since you don't, that means you do agree with it.
[–]moroots-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
but wymyn are smart strong and independent. they dont need no man to provide context. in fact context is a tool of the patriarchy
Oi.
[–]Zeabos1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It’s just a leading question.
If he said “if you got in a car accident and had brain damage, how would you keep your man?”
They wouldn’t say “anal sex”.
Context with questions like that is very important.
This is the equivalent of Steve Harvey being shocked he gets a sexual answer when he asks “what’s good to stick a piece of your body in?”
It’s just a leading question. If he said “if you got in a car accident and had brain damage, how would you keep your man?” They wouldn’t say “anal sex”.
EXACTLY.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Plus, they had the chance to talk all along. It's not like losing it gave them that opportunity.
[–]illBeSecond0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
(I know this is old, but ...) What you miss is the joke is followed with something like "None of you said, 'learn how to play Xbox, learn how to play pool, tell better stories, bring in another bitch whose got a pussy'... well, whatever."
Those seem like solid alternatives, and didn't even cross any of their minds.
[–]Yonisensei181 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Even when given an out, they still act like hoes
[–]RedditSlave_New_Age0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At timestamp https://youtu.be/28gvMM8KXm4?t=63
[–]HUTstickerh0tHEAD2 points3 points4 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It doesn't come out in best manner but Patrice is completely right about women.
RIP godfather of MGTOW.
[–]LiveTheTruth3211 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Patrice was taken too soon.
[–]The3Percenterz1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I listened to ALMOST ALL of his shit on a 10 hour drive back from Nashville by holding my phone up to my ear. It was so enthralling...like Jesus was speaking directly into my manly soul with a megaphone. Next. Level. Guy.
[–]sootlord1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Rest in peace Patrice Oneall he was the real mvp
[–]daniel133240 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, it’s big brain time. But to be fair, I understand their train of though. They were thinking about sex. That’s not so say that most modern women bring a whole lot more to the table, but like someone else said, “they objectify themselves.”
[–]ThomasSowell_Alpha1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Just because he was talking about a vagina, does not mean the answer should have anything to do with sex.
If you list other sexual orifices, then you are agreeing with the assumption that the only way to keep your man, is through sex.
If these women didn't belive that sex was all that keeps them their man, then they would have answered with things like "beign the same loving and caring woman that he fell in love with"
[–]azurianlight0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
If you haven't you guys should look up his videos on Youtube. He talks about the nature of women and we need him more now than ever.
[–]Mathiya0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Orifices
[–]Zeabos0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
What do you think a mans answer would be if he asked them about losing their penis.
Probably fingers and tongue. That doesn’t teach you shit about men.
Please, my dudes in here, don’t be so taken in by empty philosophy.
[–]everythingisatoms0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lmao savage
[–]aj24670 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Patrice O’Neals podcast was amazing when it came to advice with women. Truly was great and following his stuff is the only way to tolerate being with women. If you never heard his podcasts I would pull it up.
[–]Naebany0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Funny but if you asked the same question to men (with dick ofc) they would answer hands and tongue.
[–]jacktotheb0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
link
[–]neptune3830 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
if your a fan of patrice oneal, i recently discovered this video of him on reddit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xjav4wev6jU&list=PLAF7C2A298FF04712&index=2&t=10s
[–]aad79900 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I can see myself getting slapped when. work this Ito a conversation....
[–]BadDad01234-1 points0 points1 point 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Detachable penis
[+]stupidreddithandle91-8 points-7 points-6 points 4 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
I don’t think you can lose your vagg. The female sex organ is more protected than the male. When you design interconnecting parts, you make the more valuable part concave and the less valuable part convex, because it is easier to protect a concavity than a convexity. For example, the charger chord goes into the cavity in a phone, and a mic cable goes into a cavity of a mic. A guitar chord goes into both a guitar and an amp. The convex shape is always the part that wears out.
If a species loses a female, it loses a chance to reproduce, but if it loses a male, it doesn’t lose a chance to reproduce, because any other male can mate with the remaining females. So the population suffers more if it loses a female. Hence, pussy has always been worth more money than dick.
[–]stupidreddithandle911 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
You’re looking at biology as if it cares what is valuable to you. But it doesn’t. It’s a thermodynamic system. It follows physical law. Populations that don’t reproduce enough to sustain their population get replaced by other populations. It’s not just humans, it’s all animals, and even plants, and even fungi, to some extent. The dimorphism of male and female is absolutely pervasive.
That’s why women are still around, despite being useless to civilization. Without them, we can’t continue. You have to admit, that’s a pretty good niche, is it not?
It’s not just a minor detail. That’s the reason males (of almost all species) compete against each other while females compete to a much lesser degree. Even in the plants, the male gamete has to traverse distances to find the female gamete. Typically, that requires millions of times more male gametes than female. Males compete, and female mates with the winner. It’s an absolutely pervasive aspect of biology. The way males benefit from that arrangement is they have offspring, and their offspring have the same advantage. So when males are successful at reproduction, they can have way more offspring. That competition is what devalues men and inflates the price of women. But it’s not merely an attitude. It’s part of nature.
If a population renounces reproduction, as the west have done, it will of course have a temporary improvement in standard of living. But it will simply be replaced by a population that doesn’t give up on reproduction. That’s currently happening in the west.
[–]Zeabos0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
You realize there are not male and female trees - common names for reproductive systems are just convenient ways to identify them. They have no association with complex gender dynamics in the way you are describing. You could swap the nomenclature and nothing is different.
[–]stupidreddithandle911 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (5 children) | Copy Link
No- there are male and female trees. And other plants. Most plants have both male and female gametes, but some plants specialize and each individual is male or female. It’s still sexual reproduction, even if an organism has both gametes.
The reason they don’t have the same dynamics is because plants can’t walk around. So it would be an exceedingly bad strategy for a plant to invest in a pure male member. It’s giving up the chance to reproduce where you are, and you can’t change your location. For that reason, most plants invest in the female gamete as a sure bet and the male gamete as a long shot.
Animals don’t do that because they can change location. So it pays off to invest in a male, because it can go find females. For that reason, males of a species travel farther, and the male gamete of the plant travels farther. The female design is a sure bet, and the male is a long shot.
[–]Zeabos0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
But again - it’s just nomenclature - ascribing a cultural and societal impetus to tree is a serious fallacy. It’s just scientific notation. Male and females of various species all over the planet have dramatically different interactions. Selecting those that align with something you want to say just doesn’t make sense. The vast majority of reproduction on our planet is asexual bacterial reproduction.
It’s like suggesting that male and female electrical outlets can be used as an example to draw larger ideas about human gender interactions.
[–]stupidreddithandle911 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
They can be used to do so. Evolutionary biologists do this kind of thing all the time. Here is an article about a paper about insects that reversed the geometry of the sex organs based on the value of the male and female to the population success. Read up on current research, before you dis’.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/04/140417101146.htm
Power outlets are another perfect example. The cheap part that you don’t mind replacing it convex, because it would be easier to replace. The expensive part that you want to last is concave. When the appliance is expensive, you add a recessed connection on the appliance also. That’s because Westinghouse and Edison has smart guys working for them, and they wanted their products to sell. Natural selection is smart, too. If you read about the insects in the article, you will find there is a clear connection to a member’s value to the population.
[–]Zeabos0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I have a degree in molecular genetics.
[–]stupidreddithandle911 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So then, you can see, even at the cellular level, that there is a great disparity between the strategy of the male gamete and the female. Is it not impossible to see the similarity, between the billions of male gametes in the yellow pollen floating around the atmosphere right now, compared to the sedentary female gamete, and the “spray and pray” appearance of male mating strategy? You admit, there appears to be an undeniable similarity, with a basis in nature, even at the cellular level?
For an arbitrary subset of organisms selected entirely for the purposes of your own opinion and excepting anything that is a counter example?
Also understanding that the terminology is chosen based on the the description and this would of course follow a pattern - because it was designed to be so - and is simply a common means to get two gametes bear each other.
And also recognizing that this pattern is not causal or indicative of what may happen in any other species simply, particularly in social constructs where complex evolutionary pressures interact to create a successful reproductive chain.
Then, yeah, undeniable.
[–]stupidreddithandle911 point2 points3 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah. That’s why all the risk is on the male of a species. That’s why in a war, the high status men and the women all stay behind, while the younger low status men all do the fighting. The high status men are left with the females for themselves. They’re called the “infantry” because historically, they are “les enfants”, the children. The male children.
[–]novhaku1 point2 points3 points 4 years ago* (2 children) | Copy Link
...I'm kind of amazed by how much you missed the point. From an evolutionary perspective, sure, it makes sense (and keep in mind that even this is very heavily subjective; I; for exemple; don't think that the survival of the species is a good thing by itself because of how much we're destroying the world and other species out of selfishness. Overpopulation is a very real thing.) but god, to answer that with a straight face you have to far enough to miss the point just that much while also forgetting anything but the most basic biological concepts and avoid all context altogether, It's kind of impressive in its own right. Answering this is akin to justifying rape or finding it "normal" since only the "survival of the species" would matter. It's honestly kind of creepy, way more than the OP that actually makes fun of this way of thinking.
It's nothing new, of course that's how the world works, men are disposable, but seeing this as an answer to this kind of post is kind of amazing in its own right.
Also,
don’t think you can lose your vagg.
...learn how to use hypotheticals already, it kind of ruins your point. Honestly.
[–]stupidreddithandle912 points3 points4 points 4 years ago* (1 child) | Copy Link
I’m not sure why I’m getting accused of rape by other guys on a mgtow forum. That’s bizarre, to be honest.
I didn’t miss the point at all. The point is that women don’t actually contribute to civilization in any way. They merely receive the benefit of male work. That was the “joke”. That’s the underlying unacknowledged truth that the comedian was using to create a laugh. People laugh when they realize something they already knew, but aren’t allowed to admit.
No offense, but I think you may be naive enough to believe that people create the rules of society and then live according to them. That’s how a person is trained to view as a child, because it’s presented to them that way by adults. But in truth, nature creates those rules through evolution.
People don’t have the ability to voluntarily reduce their population. That’s part of the problem right now. The west reduced its reproductive rate, and now its population is being replaced quickly by people who increased their reproductive rate to take advantage of the die out in the west. It would be nice if you could simply make the rules, but you can’t. And the reason you can’t is because females have a stranglehold on reproduction.
The reason females still exist, or why they ever came into being is because they create a competitive pressure on the population that otherwise would not exist. That internal competitive pressure is what makes the population more competitive than another population. Over time, more competitive populations replace less competitive populations.
The female of any species is merely there to derive the benefit of that competition. They don’t take part in the competition. After males kill or chase away the weaker males, females mate with the victors. If we stop competing against each other, we don’t reproduce, and our lineage dies out, and we get replaced with other males who compete. In all animals. And even the plants and fungi, to some extent.
The truth is that women aren’t actually supposed to contribute to civilization. They have a niche. They just take advantage of male competition. You have to admit it’s a pretty good niche, right? They don’t serve any purpose, except that we can’t continue our population without them.
Essentially, men are superior, but only because nature tricked us into becoming superior. If men could reproduce without them (as the prokaryotic cell reproduces) then the process of evolution would cease to select more fit males, and men would lose their physical superiority, their stronger work ethic, their values, greater reasoning, et cetera. Nature made it that way, not people.
[–]novhaku0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I didn't accuse you and that wasn't what I intended to mean at all. The "you can't lose your vag" is weird when the question itself is based on an hypothetical that asks you to accept it as a fact for it to exist in the first place. I just say that it's so "down-to-earth" as an answer; as in, "pure biology" and that's it, that it felt weird, so to say. As in, pure matter-of-facts answer and that's it when the joke was about societal conditioning and how despite this people still only define themselves as breeders. I wasn't sarcastic when I said amazing. Because of the total detachment of the answer, so to say. I'll not criticize you for answering so seriously to a meme, I'm the first one to do this as well and in fact that's the sole interest I see to these memes.
The fact that women mainly "contribute" thanks to their kids and not much else is obvious and well-accepted here, no problem with that. Same for male disposability. It's just weird as an answer to this particular question. Maybe because I'm too used to it being common knowledge here, go figure. Since it's obvious that malse disposability lead to a better "survival of the fittest" so to say what makes it funny IMO is the female psyche not being able to see themselves as something else than sexual beings DESPITE constantly arguing about how it shouldn't define them. So seeing someone re-invent the wheel kind of felt out-of-place to me, I guess. Nothing wrong about that, though.
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