Society created 'niceguys', 'incels', 'mgtow' etc... and won't take responsibility.

Iqbal40862715 · 2019-11-20T14:00:58+00:00

This is one of the more on point write ups I've ever seen

My red pill rage - which still bubbles up every now and then - is so geared towards society.

everyone works extra hard to keep the truth hidden. Even family women do it because once you know the truth no one wants to deal with them. they're too much of a liability

my sister said once "now you know the truth about women!" with a glee in her eye.

GREAT WRITE UP

expendablekerosene · 2019-11-20T14:05:07+00:00

In the golden age of feminism information sharing wasn't as fast and easy as it is now.

You would have had to rely on a family member or friend to tell you that most relationships are a transaction where you get access to a moist hole and in return you'll need to feed, clothe, shelter, and cater to the whims of a woman. In other words, treat her like a queen. And, that that moist hole won't always be moist and maybe not even open for business anymore.

If you're lucky, you've developed a true symbiotic friendship with your partner by the time things dry up. Something Kurt Vonnegut coined as a 'duprass' in his fiction.

The Internet and globalism have changed all this. A guy in Austria can tell someone in Oregon that if you fall into this trap you can expect the consequences of AWALT. Screaming 'incel' at anyone who lays out the facts is an emotional last ditch effort to silence the spread of the truth.

Sir_manalot · 2019-11-20T14:42:58+00:00

Sadly, it was always like this.

Society and women want men to take responsibility for there own screw ups and all the screw ups of others too.

Which leads to a society that feels entitled to men doing what they want while believing that men are not entitled to anything in exchange.

Which just leads to a society of complete hypocracy and double standards.

Instead of trying to fix this injustice for the sake of equality, people just get better and better at manipulation to cover it up better.

And even when people admit the injustice that men suffered through, they still refuse to take any responsibility at all or make it up to them in someway (aka just another way to manipulate men to get them to take responsibility for other people's fuck ups).

It is also a large part as why men just do not care to listen anymore. Even if the other side has a point, it is almost always dishonest and all about getting men to pay for other people's mistakes.

farmerfran10inch · 2019-11-20T17:20:49+00:00

This is why certain people refuse to watch the Joker movie. They are confronted with the society they are complicit in. And do not like it.

EdwardSandchest · 2019-11-20T16:48:16+00:00

> How can you lie to these peoples faces knowing...

Chris Rock has a line (not about this): "Why are you lying to these kids?". Its absolutely on point; society does these little 'white lies' to be 'nice', that are fucking destructive.

TheCuckTriggerer · 2019-11-20T20:08:33+00:00

When the Social Engineers introduced feminism, it completely ruined women.

In the 1800's a woman could be confronted with the possibility of death during childbirth, and if a doctor told a woman that she could live and not have the baby or deliver the baby and die, the woman without hesitation will tell the doctor to deliver her baby.

Nowadays women are on a plethora of birth control medications that are slowly deteriorating their health or they'll just simply get an abortion. And if faced with a choice of her life or her child's, the woman will always choose herself over her child.

This is just a microcosm of what the Social Engineers have done to women with feminism. Turned them into selfish pigs who only lust for money and cock.

DangZagnut · 2019-11-20T14:10:02+00:00

I always thought MGTOW was just a realization that relationships were pointless and women weren't the innocent little daisies people think they are.

I don't see where 'society' did that considering they've been saying, and continue to say, 'girls are sugar and spice'.

alexanderthegroovy · 2019-11-20T23:06:17+00:00

I was a virgin until I was 24. I was literally afraid of women. Didn't understand why on the one hand society told me to be a nice guy and a princess would fall into my arms, while all I saw were low value sluts acting like pieces of trash. I thought I was asexual.

I wish I had known about red pill when I was younger. Would have made things so much easier. But better late than never.

NeverNeverLandIsNow · 2019-11-20T18:08:12+00:00

MGTOW is the response to all the bullshit society does to men, eventually the pendulum will start to swing the other way, you see signs of it starting to change a little now, but I think once men get a taste of real freedom I doubt many will ever go back to the way things were, women are getting what they wanted and now are starting to bitch about it.

In the long run I believe feminism will help men more than women, it has helped men see that we do not have to live like slaves to the whim of women, we can just walk away and do what we want and often be happier than we were before. For women, well they will slowly have to start taking on the responsibility that comes with all the freedom they have as more men walk off, forcing them to handle shit themselves, but they are strong and independent and are glad to do it I am sure.

MuleFool42 · 2019-11-20T19:54:35+00:00

I agree that society has created RP, incels, and MGTOWs. As a MGTOW though, I actually think that's a good thing. Society was unaware of the consequences that were created from treating men like crap. It created MGTOW, and society is unprepared for that. The more that men choose to live for themselves, prioritize their own needs and forgo marriage, the more society will pay for what it created.

fahad_the_great · 2019-11-20T22:26:56+00:00

It still scares me what would have become of me had I not run into MGTOW. Like I literally thought women were perfect beings and when MGTOW opened my eyes, I did a lot of research and guess what? Society hides all this shit under the carpet. Thank god for the internet.

Wisdom_of_a_Khan · 2019-11-21T06:10:47+00:00

Solid read.

Society is in a state of constant change, and we find ourself in a very weird situation today, Society has changed but biology hasn't. It's still engrained in us to be the way we were for thousands of years. Men are still engrained to protect women, women are still engrained to find good men. Unfortunately societal indoctrination and social pressures no longer allow for nature to run it's course. Being 25 I can't really say for certain but it seems like we're seeing the final evolution of the sexual revolution of the 1960s. Prior to that time sex lives weren't discussed or shared by many, it was a private thing between a man and woman, and if it was public knowledge the people in question were usually regarded as degenerates. A Mere 60 years later we now see the inverse, Unless you have a sex life, make it public, and base your entire life around it your just a lowborn piece of incel garbage. Hell, sex is such a defining thing nowdays that there are people walking around with self tailored genders that define their entire being. They are that gender, and nothing else, which is why they require you to respect it.

The interesting thing about all of it to me, is just how easily it was destroyed. Now I'm sure there were plenty of whores walking around before the 1950s, but overall, female hypergamy and slutiness were put in decent enough check for thousands of years. All it took was a few well timed and well thought out lies and half a century to flip thousands of years of tradition upside down and cause the mess we are seeing today.

I'm interested to see what the future holds, because the current system can't help but reach critical mass sooner or later. With an increasing number of men either walking away or being deemed "Not good enough" the 80-20 rule will eventually turn into a 90-10 rule, then a 99-1 rule, and with how badly females deal with loneliness, there's certain to be trouble down the road.

NoCharism · 2019-11-20T16:22:50+00:00

Agree!

kiritsugu_89 · 2019-11-20T22:08:38+00:00

Dude, I don't need any more reminders. Lol

kevin32 · 2019-11-22T12:37:45+00:00

Hey there u/throwaway18236123. Would you post this to r/WhereAllTheGoodMenAre? I'm a mod there and I think the men of our community would benefit from it, many of whom are MGTOWs. Thanks.

Mythrobo · 2019-11-20T17:17:43+00:00

No, they wont

drock2417 · 2019-11-20T14:19:49+00:00

You shouldn’t make assumptions about everyone else you don’t even know. And relax and enjoy life. That dissertation shows you spend way too much time on things that really don’t matter.

Title	Society created 'niceguys', 'incels', 'mgtow' etc... and won't take responsibility.
Author	throwaway18236123
Upvotes	213
Comments	47
Date	November 20, 2019 12:34 PM UTC (4 years ago)
Subreddit	Posted in /r/MGTOW
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