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[–]jigaboorainstorm48 points49 points50 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
15+ year minimum. With that face and Robert Hare interviewing her. She really needs life.
[–]swiet[S] 38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (12 children) | Copy Link
If you push someone intentionally, and they hit a train, that's manslaughter. You didn't kill them, the train did.
It's the same deal here. She didn't kill him, but she pushed him relentlessly every day into it. Hundreds of messages and phone calls insisting that he does it. Pretty cut and dry.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
If you push some intentionally I would think that would be murder as you intentioanally pushed them into the train with the aim to kill them. If you pushed someone and they then fell onto the tracks and broke the rib causing their lungs to be punctured which made them sufficate that would be manslaughter in my understand of the law as you had no intention of actually killing them, but it happen. Could be wrong though.
[–]heghan1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Essentially, thats how I understand it as well. What makes the difference is the intent. Knowingly pushing someone in front of a train, versus recklessly pushing them and causing them to fall and end up dead.
It's all about proving intent.
What makes me sick is this kid died and she cried when she got sentenced. POS.
[–]Dwight__Swanson0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
So if I give you a gun and goad you into shooting me in the head am I responsible for my death or are you?
[–]username-----------4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Both
[–]MortalJohn0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Man suicide laws are weird
[–]Itisforsexy0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
No. Physical force vs words. Not the same thing at all.
[–]plowman650 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
so why was manson in jail??
[–]Itisforsexy0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Because legality and morality seldom overlap.
[–]plowman650 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
True
[–]nikewalks0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Analogy is not the same at all. The proper analogy would be daring someone to jump into the tracks and get hit by the train.
[–]LucidFoxx2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
She only got 15 months!
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[–]LucidFoxx3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Fucking pussy pass.
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[–]LucidFoxx0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nah she is ugly
[–]CastandRefused62 points63 points64 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Her sentence is an utter disgrace.
[–]JohnMcCainToHell44 points45 points46 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The People's Republic of Massachusetts fam. It's a dystopian feminist shithole.
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[–]swiet[S] 12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Pretty sure she will simply change her name
[–]halfwit20254 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
lol Chapman
[–]jigaboorainstorm36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She has narcissist psychopath face. Imagine the mask she can put on with sweet love and charm! These exist and they are more common than you’d think.
[–]mas5acre40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But because she has a vagina they went easy...
[–]richbeezy17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
But Manson is a dude so he should get waaay more prison time - it’s called “male privilege”.
[–]FeedMeMore2277853412 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
FEED. ME. MORE!
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[–]DarkNights2924 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
She’s ugly so she should get a lot lol
[–]TheGrokelives10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She deserves a public execution.
[–][deleted] 9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Shes so ugly
[–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She got off light. That little psychopath deserved life.
[–]stringedbeams4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
to me this was a bizarre case of unrestrained speech versus neglect, I mean if someone's sick and you attempt to make them worse that seems like a violent action, but on the other hand just because someone encourages you to do something doesn't mean you have to do it.
[–]DarkNights2920 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Precisely. But someone people will actually do it
[–]migelall5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
These messages was very hard to read... The punishment is inadequate.
[–]AtomicaBombica4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
That asymmetrical face is atrocious, not to mention she looks downright demented.
I generally don't judge people based on looks. I mean the one chick with the lopsided face in GOT is definitely bang-able. This chick just looks fugly though; maybe that's why she's so hateful?
edit: spelling.
[–]TheIlluminatiEatPoo1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They both have buggy eyes
[–]Frosty19900 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yea I’d like to see the transcripts as well, they may have a lot to do on how the jury made their decision
[–]guzman_hemi0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn this bitch is ugly as fuck
[–]LionVenom100 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Charles Manson, the most mysterious Serial Killer Ik.
[–]duong90060 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
In fact they look alike.
[–]ripdabs0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She should get jail time for her eyebrows alone!!
[–]Orangecup050 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Such a shame that this fucking cunt will get to walk free again one day. I hope she creates terrible for herself on the inside and suffers consequences.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
put this bitch on death row
[–]Itisforsexy0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't believe manipulating someone into taking their own lives should be illegal. However I know under our current anti-freedom system, any man doing this would go to jail. So for consistencies sake, she should too.
[–]FritzLn0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
no easier life than a white woman in the west than for any subset of humanity in any period of human history
[–]sixpack2220 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am going to reffer to a recent article about Michelle Carter https://www.bostonherald.com/2019/02/14/heslam-michelle-carter-a-model-inmate/ and how I understand the subject myself
I think people need to be sent each to a prison specific their crimes and personality not put everyone toghether and "hope" for the best ... An offender isn't the same as another one , some people don't need to be put in with real bad ,violent people . The premise is to make them integrate especially for young offenders like Michelle Carter with a short sentance. For some is to keep them under lock and key , I don't think this is such a case .American prisoners especially always get worse after jail time not better because of the mentality that goes into the "correction" system . From were I am in EU it's a bit more inclined to rehabilitation overall but depends..
Anyway she doesn't deserve a bad experience, the purpose for jail formost non-violent offenders is rehabiltation not to make them go deeperinto crime ! So I really hope for the best .
I myself was near to end up in jail for appropiation of someone's goods . I had a hard time dealing with gambling problems and needed the money back at the time. Fortunately I reached a deal with the victim and gave his money money back from that good I sold earlier . So I empathise with non-violent offenders and I understand many things from many perspectives ,including this case .
So I think if I were to spent then some months in jail I would become an actual theif or worse because of the enviroment .
Let's not be so judgemental because who knows, after 10 years you might be facing the same blacklash because you said something over reddit !
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