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[β]PDaddyXXX692 points693 points694 points 5 years ago (59 children) | Copy Link
This is unbelievably fucked up. And then one wonders why men commit suicide much more than women?
[β]Sir_manalot364 points365 points366 points 5 years ago (33 children) | Copy Link
Nah, nobody really wonders.
Conservatives call these men selfish and liberals even cheer.
He fulfilled his ourpose and is now disposable. If he kills himself, it is a job well done.
If he lives and falls for tradcon ideals again, it is a job well done.
If he lives and swallows the red pill, he is a demon from hell.
[β]Kornstar04106 points107 points108 points 5 years ago (15 children) | Copy Link
Demon it is.
[β]VoxVirilis40 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (14 children) | Copy Link
Does this mean we get kick-ass demon nicknames like "Abaddon" or "Balthazar"?
[β]Morb35716 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
Hehe I love Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2.
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[β]Morb3579 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I think Dungeons and Dragons too.
[β][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Also Sex in the City and Gossip Girl.
[β]Vrixithalis1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
How do you know this?
[β][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't, they're shows with cunty women in them, so I'm assuming they have demonic names. It's a joke.
[β]TheRiseAndFall6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Both of those guys are also in Supernatural!
GW rocks too though!
[β]Gnome_Stomperr3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I know thereβs also an abandon in Dota 2
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Guild wars was amazing. 2 not so much.
[β][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes and Disagree
[β]CursingWhileNursing2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wait, what? Who wants to be named after Failbaddon the Useless?
[β]PleaseCallMeTomato1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Abbadon sounds kinda dark and heretical, while Balthazar is Gold
[β]Dovahhkiin644 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Abbadon is Latin for destroyer.
[β]PleaseCallMeTomato0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
(that was a Warhammer reference dude i know that)
[β]MillennialDan50 points51 points52 points 5 years ago (9 children) | Copy Link
I don't know of any conservative who would say he's being selfish.
[β]Sir_manalot67 points68 points69 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
In the 90s it was a common thing for conservatives to say to me.
One even said it was such a waste when my brother killed himself...treating him like he was a brokem hammer.
Now that they can capitalize on male suffering for votes, they changed there tune to make it less obvious.
They however still treat men like tools and still try to get suicidal men to work for their own sake first and foremost.
[β]PleaseComeCorrect19 points20 points21 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I don't know, man... It's easy to take comments like "what a waste" the wrong way... I've said that before, and my meaning has been, "A man's life always has the potential to be a useful one, a positive one, an impactful one - one that might save the lives of others, or maybe even the lives of us all. Such a potential is a terrible thing to waste."
I find a lot of meaning in my work, and I think a lot of men can say the same. We naturally enjoy feeling like we're accomplishing something. I've been out of work for a few weeks here and there, and I got terribly depressed. Meaningful work moves me away from suicidal thoughts - not toward them.
I've never worked in my life. I have meaning and accomplishments too.
[β]PleaseComeCorrect1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
...if you have "accomplishments" you didn't work to achieve, I'm thinking the word does not mean what you think it means.
[β]t353tfb9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I always understood "what a waste" to mean what a waste of potential, or what a waste of a young life, or what a waste of his ability to experience the joy that he might have found if he could have conquered his demons. It's a common and polite form of condolence when a young person dies. I have never heard anyone say that phrase and thought they meant "what a waste of what I could have extracted from him". Maybe you ought to reconsider whether the person who said it to you was just expressing condolences.
[β]Sir_manalot2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That doesn't make any logical sense whatsoever.
"Waste of potential" means that the individual sees him as a potentially valuable tool that has been wasted.
"Waste of young life" means the same.
"what a waste of his ability to experience the joy that he might have found if he could have conquered his demons" is an incredibly selfish form of kindness.
Maybe you ought to reconsider treating men like tools and trying to hamster it as caring.
The entire reason suicide is an issue is BECAUSE very, very few people are treating men as humans.
[β]MarzMonkey7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then insert 'cowardly' for not living through the hell that is our peace.
[β]dtaylortx6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Really? TradCon value is seen in what your "worth", i.e. what you produce (if you're poor) or create (if you're rich). It's why they think people that are poor are immoral and lazy, while also thinking that if they have a job, they're of value. If he commits suicide he's neither in their eyes, having selfishly taken his life and shirking his duties to society. I grew up in a TradCon household and had that shit bored into my core. I'm still finding myself feeling guilty occasionally when shit goes south.
[β]SSDan00712 points13 points14 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Conservatives call these men selfish
Had to make sure I was in MGTOW and not r/mensrights...most MGTOW or like minded guys I know (grown-ups over age 30) are conservative types.
[β]iheartlucifer10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm more centre-left yet I am with MGTOW.
[β]Sir_manalot0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There are honestly a ton of left leaning mgtow men here.
Tradcucks just gonna cuck.
[β]Sir_manalot4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Mgtow has no politicial affiliation...
[β]Vrixithalis-2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hahaha right. Find me a far left MGTOW, and I'll show you a beta pussy who doesn't understand MGTOW at all.
[+]HotBrownLatinHotCock-7 points-6 points-5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I mean. Why be sad she grown up lol
[β]U-9440 points41 points42 points 5 years ago (18 children) | Copy Link
I don't understand how more women don't kill themselves when they're looks fade. If they have no career or children by then, it's literally cat lady land for the next 20-30 years. That's not a promising prospect.
[β]_Amish_Electrician80 points81 points82 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
because dudes will fuck ugly bitches
[β]Abatrax26 points27 points28 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
But never the other way around unless it's paid
[β]Vrixithalis5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Wrong. Bitches don't give a fuck if you're ugly. You just need high social status or wealth.
[β]Myykay42 points43 points44 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Delusion. Why are women so entranced by soap operas and intimate relationships on television? Their minds are different to ours, they are not realists. If their emotions sink, their minds are drawn to drama and imaginary figures through which they derive happiness - much like children. Plus a shit ton of SSRIs.
[β]NohoTwoPointOh28 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
They are. In record fucking numbers. But not in the way that we think.
[β]Mindraker30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (6 children) | Copy Link
So it's suddenly an opioid drug crisis because Caucasian women are taking drugs?
[β]NohoTwoPointOh18 points19 points20 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
We have been in an opioid crisis for quite a while. But this was an answer to the "how more women don't kill themselves" question. At a 260% increase of overdoses, I think this answers the specific question.
[β]dravenaus13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
The missing white woman syndrome
[β]WikiTextBot13 points14 points15 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Missing white woman syndrome
Missing white woman syndrome is a phenomenon noted by social scientists and media commentators of the extensive media coverage, especially in television, of missing person cases involving young, white, upper-middle-class women or girls. The phenomenon is defined as the Western media's undue focus on upper-middle-class white women who disappear, with the disproportionate degree of coverage they receive being compared to cases of missing men or boys, women of color, and women of lower social classes. Although the term was coined to describe disproportionate coverage of missing person cases, it is sometimes used to describe similar disparities in news coverage of other violent crimes. Instances have been cited in the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and South Africa.PBS news anchor Gwen Ifill is said to be the originator of the phrase.
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[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I haven't posted here in almost a month, but I'm glad people on here are bringing this to the light.
Was just talking about this with my father, and even he understands this is an issue. I really want to know if anyone has seen Asian, Black, Indian, Arab, Turkish etc in a missing woman report?
[β]Mindraker-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hadn't heard of that term before, but... wow, that nails it.
Well both white men and women that's the funny thing believe the opioid issue truly only effects white community kind of like Meth issue.
[β]realChebz8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Because I think the whole "wall is the end" for women is grossly exaggerated in MGTOW circles. They'd still find guys to fuck them, maybe not 10/10 Chads, but there are still plenty of simps who would be happy for anything. There are plenty of examples all around, in fact one of our senior devs at my place just married a post wall single mother, he's good looking guy making a ton of money too... Why? "She lubs me!!"
[β]William_A_Bishop9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Worked with a dude this summer who was a but older (mid 30s) and he met this post wall lady on tinder, started dating her and got dumped on his birthday cause she literally didnt give two shits about him.
Simps gonna simp
[β]realChebz1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
No surprise there, she probably has a line of simps on the ready.. I think that while small minority of us will wake up and GYOW most men will only be to happy to take our place on the plantation. And they will happily settle for whatever ugly, fat, old hog shows them an ounce of attention.
[β]William_A_Bishop3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yep. It was really sad actually. Dude was going on about how in love they were n shit, and it was around the same time i was discovering mgtow. I think i might have managed to show him the light after the fact but hes a great guy, got a good life going, just stuck in the mindset of "i need to find a woman to make my life complete"
There are plenty of examples all around, in fact one of our senior devs at my place just married a post wall single mother, he's good looking guy making a ton of money too... Why? "She lubs me!!"
There's a long post there waiting to happen if he ever loses his job or downgrades to a lower-paying one for less stress.
They feed them pills
[β][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
I only wonder why those men don't take the women with them. I'm not advocating it... just wondering.
[β][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Because we believe murder is wrong? My ex took my kids from me and I about died. She dumped them off on me when it was convenient to her and I raised them solo for about three years, and then bam. She took them. Did I roll over? Fuck no. I cashed out a retirement fund, fought like a bastard, and got them back. Too many men quit when it comes to custody.
Anyway.
[β][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I'm happy for you for not giving up and fighting like a bastard. Of course murdering your wife in that scenario would have been terrible.
I should have been more clear in my previous post; I imagined a scenario where you come home, it's the day you retire, no kids, your wife just beat herself and says she just called the cops on you for beating her. In such a scenario, you know for a fact that your life is already over.
What I don't understand is why people in such scenarios prefer to hold onto their virtues so that they get abused and tortured by a broken system, rather than taking justice in their own hands.
Oh. Well, I think men are generally more stoic than women. We have the ability to detach. I get that we get a bum rap when it comes to male violence, but that's a natural result of the bell curve of male behavior. Male violence for the vast majority of us isn't preferable, and is even abhorrent, as long as it doesn't take place inside an arena. Heh.
Anyway. We tend to internalize our pain, which is why we probably off ourselves in greater numbers. We do that because most people outside a buddy or two simply don't give a shit about us.
This is probably why we crafted families. To create a space of love and hope. That's been destroyed by the system, and as we're seeing it's better to deuces out than to participate.
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[β]SingleManDR84 points85 points86 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Why does this girl suddenly become unique? She's going to be shown a world where she gets new clothes every day, a fancy place to live in and a new car when she's 16. Dad who? She might turn into hypergamy with a turbo.
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[β]SingleManDR5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am not denying that, there's a bond there. But then there should be a bond with your wife, and if there's a chance to trade up... I'm saying what we know about female nature doesn't change dramatically because of that connection. Yes she'll always love her dad, but shiny new things and money are powerful bonding tools with girls.
[β]dtaylortx0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Or she could just rip the sheets off of step-dad and fleece him. XD
[β]var_root_admin43 points44 points45 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Naa, her mother will fill her head up with all kinds of stories about dad.
[β]marvelkombat17 points18 points19 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
gaslightning has already started and no one do it better than a mother
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[β]LikeHarambeMemes57 points58 points59 points 5 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
She'll probably only end up like her mum, so sad.
[β]Cheddar_Fromunda38 points39 points40 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Try not to be too pessimistic, I think this could sway to be more nurture than nature.
Children who are exposed to a parentβs shitty behaviour during a divorce often grow to resent that parent and aspire to be nothing like them.
I know many women can be selfish hypocrites by nature; however, itβs in our best interests to be better and not sink to there level.
I believe giving people the benefit of the doubt and not assuming they are/will be horrible people (until they prove it to you) is a good first step.
TL;DR: Respect everyone, trust no one.
[β]LikeHarambeMemes10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Sure, could be. But i also notice we often become what we despise because we don't want to accept it.
[β]Cheddar_Fromunda7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Oh for sure that could also be the case.
I guess what Iβm really trying to say is that itβs important to stay open minded.
I hate how the powers that be have got us all divided and expecting the worst from one another.
I just think a little more critical thinking and a little less jumping to conclusions could help us see past some of the bullshit paved out for us to fight over.
[β]LikeHarambeMemes3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Absolutely! These occurences still make me sad. So much unnecessary suffering on this world.
[β]Cheddar_Fromunda1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Amen Brother!
[β][deleted] 14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Horrific. The dude will be alright because when she's 16 she can go live with him if she chooses.
The mother has 3 years to poison the well. Dad will be an abusive demon by the time 16 rolls around.
[β]AdaAli1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
There will be parental alienation and she'll become a character disturbed pseudo-narcissist.
most likely outcome
[β]Gingham_Argile1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Remember fellahs... It is all about the long game. Uspress the short term pain for the eventual call to stability you represent.
When the boomerang back keep your F'n frame!
[β]Unexpecter297 points298 points299 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Aaarghhh..this is unreal π‘
[β][deleted] 225 points226 points227 points 5 years ago (21 children) | Copy Link
A special place in hell for these women.
[β][deleted] 86 points87 points88 points 5 years ago (19 children) | Copy Link
Thatβs the worst part. There is no hell and they get away with it.
[β][deleted] 30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
This is a black pill, a very good one I must say. MGTOW is the only thing that can work against them.
[β]death-loves-time8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
prevent the infection by avoiding it
[β]SphincteralAperture12 points13 points14 points 5 years ago* (11 children) | Copy Link
We gotta bring justice into our own hands, and what better way to do it than to simply do nothing and ignore their existence. That drives them crazy.
[β][deleted] 45 points46 points47 points 5 years ago (10 children) | Copy Link
Does it though? We are like 3% of the male population. For every one of us that ignores these animals, there is 100 dudes willing to simp and cuck for just a whiff of the pussy. We are massively outnumbered, and widely mocked across the Internet. Just protect yourself. Everyone else is Fucked
[β]SphincteralAperture14 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
I guess that'll have to do. Hopefully more men realize just how unfair the system is for them and opt to forgo participation. But you're right, it's best to look out for ourselves.
[β]PorkBomber8 points9 points10 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry, it will happen in time, might take some time but it will happen eventually. Just take a look at Japan. 60% men in 20s are herbivores. The same fate awaits West and other cucked countries like India and Australia.
[β]CursingWhileNursing0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And it will be much, much worse here. When I look at my Germany, the legions of "cultural enrichers"; usually equippes with knifes, is already waiting to take over.
The only satisfaction that I will get then will probably be when I walk by groups of enrichers raping german women who scream for help and I will only stop to explain them why I can't do that, using their own chatchwords and paroles.
"No, ma'am, those people are just acting according to their culture!" "No, ma'am, that would be racism!" "No, ma'am, that would require an act of violence and I can't allow my toxic masculinity to kick in!" "No, I am sorry, ma'am, but I am in a hurry, I am coming too late to my Gillette anti-rape training!"
[β]Vrixithalis-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Australia is part of the West. Just saying...
[β]kayos636 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You can't even warn or advise them, the simps get angry and end up attacking you when you're just trying to help them avoid impending doom. They insist of learning by being destroyed instead of learning from the mistakes of others and through observation, deep thought and reflection.
[β][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
We are massively outnumbered, and widely mocked across the Internet. Just protect yourself. Everyone else is Fucked
Yep. While I guess it's good that some people think they can have an impact, the reality is nothing will change because we're a small minority of men. One guy walks away, ten more step in.
100% my man. At the end of the day we can just worry about ourselves.
[β]Orig_analUse_rname0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That's why we need to work to make change instead of hiding away like hermit crab. That change? Ending women's rights as sovereign citizens. We can't expand as a society so long as they hypergamize freely.
[β]Bosilaify0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That number is always growing though, while it is important to focus on yourself, it is also important to help others not fall into bad fate.
[β]CursingWhileNursing1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup. I always get angry when people start to babble such nonsense or talk about karma. Bullshit. I know way, way to many people who make a sport out of fucking people over and they are juuust fine. I was drugged and raped and later kicked out of the police station when I tried to file a report (because "men don't get raped") and my rapist is very well, while I am trying to cope with my depression.
The only way get justice would be to say "Fuck it" and go ballistic.
[β]InferiorityComplex96-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Nobody can know this unless you've died , went to hell and came back to life, which I doubt has happened. It is unprovable
True, but I can think reasonably. You canβt prove that I am not the second coming of Christ... but any reasonable person can think about it and come to a rational conclusion
[β]InferiorityComplex960 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yes, I can prove that you're not the second coming of christ lol wtf There's many events that will happened leading up to the return of christ that haven't happened
[β]spookey0188-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Don't worry brother. Allah will bring justice to the wrongdoers.
[β]BlackBoxInquiry3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
βA special place in hell for these whores.β
FTFY
[β]TheDevilsAdvokaat127 points128 points129 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Please don't be real.
[β]NPC8086 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it's not only real, it's common and something that we are supposed to just accept because "that's how it goes in court"
[β]sw4nkert0n101 points102 points103 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A GoFundMe for a good lawyer would be in place for this man. Fucking hell I can feel his pain through the screen.
[β][deleted] 87 points88 points89 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Oh shiiiiiiiit π’
[β]bresra250070 points71 points72 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope she's old enough to resist their brainwashing
[β]RedPilledLife58 points59 points60 points 5 years ago (7 children) | Copy Link
And women are wondering why they get shot by their ex, i would completely understand that in this case as that is what i would do...
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[β]PorkBomber32 points33 points34 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine if we responded the same way. βI wonder what she did to him?β
I've actually started responding like that already. Of course, everyone around me goes nuts when they hear it but idgaf.
[β]cyborg_type_darkness9 points10 points11 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
It's only 3 years. Source from the comments.
[β]RedPilledLife0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
More then enough time to brainwash her
For a woman, it isn't enough to hypergamize at will. They also have to destroy you financially, mentally, or otherwise.
[β]lucky_Lola0 points1 point2 points 4 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Then no one kiddo?
[β]marcopoloman56 points57 points58 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Been there.
[β]Pimozv36 points37 points38 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
Well the guy had custody during the best years in childhood. I mean, teenagers are awful, aren't they?
So, things could be worse. The girl will be adult in just five years. She will spend this time with her mother and a rich stepdad. Again, not so bad.
[β]lestratege30 points31 points32 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And she probably will remember who was there for her when she was young. I hope he still has some visitation but it is indeed just like letting her go on her own a bit early.
[β]OilyB16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
Boys and girls need a father figure more during the teenage years. It's when structure, discipline and vision are formed and resistance is needed, from a safe figure but a figure of authority. Women handle this period less competent and less confidently than men.
If she's a female...you ALL know how this ends. Even with a great upbringing...AWALT.
[β]GeronimoKIA191128 points29 points30 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
There's a special place in hell for most lawyers.
[β]GeronimoKIA19111 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I said most
[β]EvolvingSomewhere29 points30 points31 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Went thru a similar situation last year. Was absolutely terrified. Fortunately for me it worked out tho and the attorneys representing my kids seen through it & ruled in my favor
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[β]jewmoo5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
π
[β]Sp0kySc4rySk3l3t0n5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
And bankers
[+]404SoulNotFound-14 points-13 points-12 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Dude, not okay. That's called a call to action to violence, and it's not covered under free speech. Get a grip.
[β]sphinx26267 points8 points9 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck you? Idgaf. I would glady throw my hat into any arena that advocates violence against an exploitative power structure. Espically one that tares at the fabric of our being. Got a grip..its a custom one. Dw there are always people willing to fight and die for the structures that enslave them. Best lesson history has to teach us. Doesnt matter how evil or bad things get. Large swaths of meat-bags will always choose temporary comfort over freedom.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.
Please tell me dear sir.. what is a pleb to do when the rule of law has broken down?
Then I guess Shakespeare isn't covered either. He was the one who started the whole "kill all the lawyers" bit.
[β]Enutile16 points17 points18 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
I'm european and something shocked me :
The girl can't choose between her mother and father ?
[β]Socram0077 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Ha
[β]derFsivaD5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Usually (although it can vary from state to state) once a child is around 12 or 13, the courts will ask them which nparent they want to stay with. Of course of there are allegations or accusations of abuse, then that's pretty well thrown out the window.
Unfortunately, we need more info on this story, as it seems he should have been able to keep her. Or at least have shared custody, especially since he took care of her for so long.
[β]SomeRandomUser11114 points15 points16 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I don't understand how she could get custody after not being there all those years.
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If the guy is working multiple jobs, barely making ends meet and is rarely at home, I'd imagine throwing some cash around to do some investigative work and hiring an expensive lawyer when the father likely has no resources to contest it will have most judges siding with the mother.
[β]0306205510 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The daughter will be back in no time. He shouldn't sweat despite the hard work he put in.
[β]carterrockhouse10 points11 points12 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
13 year old girl probably willing went with mother and rich step dad so she can get latest iphone.
I hate it for the dad, but we dont live in times where family values are prioritized over materialistic ones
[β]lethrowaway4me7 points8 points9 points 5 years ago (8 children) | Copy Link
What does "bought the system" mean? Did he mean "brought the system"?
[β]_Amish_Electrician27 points28 points29 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
with enough money they can get lawyers that will fuck your life up
[β]Sea2Chi5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Attorneys can be very expensive. If one side has more money than the other it is not terribly difficult to stretch out court cases and bleed the other person dry.
Big companies love that technique because they have near infinite resources and can drag a trial on for years while you're paying an attorney by the hour.
Some of the time judges don't put up with that shit but a lot of the time it's just following legal precedent.
[β]elijahebanks3 points4 points5 points 5 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
Bought = "Buy" past tense Brought = "Bring" past tense
[+]lethrowaway4me-6 points-5 points-4 points 5 years ago (3 children) | Copy Link
no shit, buying the system doesn't really make much sense tho which is why i wondered if it was a mistype.
[β]derFsivaD1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I think in this case, it was referring to them as having thrown enough money at lawyers in order to 'purchase the judgment they desired.
I could be wrong.
[β]lethrowaway4me0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, i thought it could be that but wasn't sure.
[β]SANCTIMONY_METER0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
it was unclear to me as well. the sentence structure makes it seem as if the jobs he was working 'bought the system' which is confusing.
[β]Kid_Dragneel1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I was wondering the same honestly
[β][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
BRO YOUVE ALL BEEN WARNED AND PUT ON NOTICE. IF YOU TRUST A WOMAN AND MARRY HER LEGALLY. YOU ARE GONNA GET BURNED OR AT THE LEAST BE AT HIGH RISK OF BEING BURNED.
IM STARTING TO HAVE LESS SYMPATHY FOR THESE GUYS.. BUT THEY DIDNT KNOW BACK THEN. WE KNOW NOW.
[β]meerita5 points6 points7 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She wanted to have the silver bullet, her daughter, to submit this poor fella. She deserves the worst karma ever.
[β]SupaFlyslammajammazz4 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
They paid off the judge? Appeal and request for another judges: commissioner. Given the circumstances you should have primary custody.
[β]king_of_da_burgerz6 points7 points8 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The mother doesn't even have a place in her daughter's life because she left. His daughter definitely has a bond with him, what with actually being raised by him all her life. This is clearly what isn't right for the daughter but of course, the ex wife will always get her way because she is a woman and knows how to play the emotions of simps.
[β]GeronimoKIA19114 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At least its only 3 years. She'll want to move back with her father afterwards.
[β]Morden0134 points5 points6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Jesus. This is heartbreaking. I hope his kid gets back as soon as it is legally possible.
[β]Windows-19981 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Itβs 1000% not right, but having friends that go through custody battles, there have to be other factors that this took place if the mother was given full custody. If heβs working all the time, the law could see that as negligence if sheβs alone a lot, or if he failed to meet the requirements of their previous custody agreement, thatβs a big deal.
The number of women given custody of children simply because theyβre the mother is outdated, unsafe and needs to be amended, but courts donβt grant full custody to one parent because they request it.
That being said, mom is still a fucking cunt.
[β]MattFoley792 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Fortunately, she's 13. In a few years, she can tell mom to go fuck herself.
seriously wtf
[β]thesageupnorth1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
there there. its only a matter of time until she's able to make decisions for herself. perhaps then she'll choose you again. Or maybe not. see its a girl, I can't trust it.
[β]Jackm9411 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She will resent them untill she is old enough to move herself.
[β]aBlindGeminiWhisper1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
Fucking sadness i'm feeling on my chest right now! System aren't working as it suppose to work...
You stole a man's life and his dreams... I know a poem from Langston Hughes, its name is 'Dreams'. Its about how to survive on these fucking micro-sociological systems...
Hold fast to dreams.
For if dreams die,
Life is a broken-winged bird.
That cannot fly.
For when dreams go,
Life is a barren field.
Frozen with snow.
Please, please don't give up!
[β]Gibits1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That doesnβt add up. At 13-14 the child has more say in which parent they prefer. Unless the new boyfriend found some loophole or the daughter wanted to reconnect with the mother this shouldnβt happen.
[β]cuck_norris1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What does he mean by "bought the system"?
it was unclear to me as well. the sentence structure makes it seem as if the jobs he was working 'bought the system' which is confusing. he means that his wife took advantage of the legal system to her favor.
[β]Coo_Larrow1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
What does "bought the system" mean? I don't get what's happening here
[β]Deckardisdead1 point2 points3 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't doubt this. I once had a judge in family court make a ruling about vaccinations for my kids....."You didn't prove vaccines are effective" I submitted medical evidence but still lost. Fuck family court.
[β]N198640 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I hope it's a lie but this is the thread:
https://twitter.com/iamSwavey21_snr/status/1086955489353715714
[β]wisdom_of_Solomon0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Daughter should be able to choose by age 13.
[β]LiveTheTruth3210 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Poor guy. Damn!
[β]skipbillington0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
A whole load of feminists are smirking at this βvictoryβ
Outrageous
[β]ovrload0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Slaving away and itβs all gone. Must feel so worthless.
[β]shammylamby0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
My heart breaks for you my friend. My thoughts and prayers are with you as I know the pain of losing your children. Stay strong as I promise you things have a way of righting themselves. Unfortunately your daughter is with two very selfish people who will reveal themselves soon.I promise your children will be back with you where they belong very soon and they never forget the good fathers do for them.
[β]rejac2180 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I am so sorry , sir. My heart goes out to you.
[β]MuleFool420 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is gut wrenching. Unbelievable.
[β]AntiAbleism0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Absolutely awful.
[β]TrojanPiece0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The guy is a hero
[β]SUEDE2BLACK0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
How did the mother just come in and get custody like that this doesn't make sense.
I'm guessing the guy never went to court and got soul custody and requested child support from the mother.
[β]BrooklynMikey0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She canβt avoid karma though. It will come back to her one way or another
[β]st8ovmnd0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
hang in there brother..it's happen to lots of us..it'll work itself out, it's really hard but things will get better.
[β]robowriter0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Nothing short of criminal to attack this good man.
This is the reason I'd rather not have children or even consider women with children (not as if I have any falling over themselves over me as is) simply due to situations where I'm not in his/her life. I've always wanted to be a parent, but the more I see of this and how women are, the more happier I am that I don't have much fortune with them.
[β]pixelies0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
At 13, the child could have a say in things in court. What state is this in? How was the agreement modified? What were the grounds given?
[β]DarkNights2920 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Can't believe men are treated as a disposable razor basically.
I won full custody of my kid and mom has vanished for 5 years, this shit is terrifying.
[β]DarthBelakk0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thatβs fucked!
[β]amwfhunter0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is dumb. Honestly that sucks too.
Rich guys also need to learn do not ever get with single moms.
Once people learn this shit, it wont happen. I wish more men think with their heads than their hearts and dicks coz you never win this game if not.
[β]ProgressiveWoman0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Iβm sure there is more to this story. What did this creep do to his daughter??
[β]icemanthrowaway1230 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
She took the daughter who spent her entire "My dad is my hero" phase just in time for the "retaliate from my parents" phase.
The ONE good thing about this story is that the nanosecond this girl turns 16 she's gonna scream at the courts to be placed with her father.
[β]zerlingrush0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Imagine IT putting finding some ridiculous comment online to blame this on men
Flip the genders and see if it plays out the same way. Can you imagine a judge taking a child away from the other when they'd raised them to their teenage years? I'd bet the father would get one weekend a fortnight and a bill for backdated child support.
I wanna unsee this so keep my mental health stable.
Poor man, I hope he finds a way to get her kid back.
[β]WhoRuleTheWorld0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Did he at least get child support from the mother?
[β]LetsGoAllTheWhey0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
What does he mean by "they bought the system"?
[β]SANCTIMONY_METER0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
[β]LetsGoAllTheWhey0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks.
[β]GrisBosque0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Now the good news; mothers and teen daughters always fight... two cats in the same space...
She'll be dumped back on your doorstep within two years. And the ex will try to keep the money.
Dont expect justice.... Expect Karma.
And alot of us here have had similar experiences. And it wont end as long as there are women and lawyers both.
[β]idle_voluptuary0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This pisses me off more than a shaving razor commercial, sorry not sorry
[β]blueslounger0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Time is your test. My guess is she'll be back when she can.
[β]AccusationSurvivor0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I have a hard time believing this shit or that this is the full story.
Kids remember this stuff. Most of the time, when you hear about wealthy dads whose kids resent them after a divorce, those kids were raised by and bonded with their mom so the dad was the provider but there were not enough emotional connections between them. Here, I hope the girl remembers who tucked her in at night, tried to stay awake while going over home work, worked double jobs, and argued with teachers over birthday cakes.
[β]zarcelos0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm sorry brother.. I'm in a similar situation.. My daughter hates her mom.. she'll come back to you.
[β]Nevek_Green0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Stops when it's stopped.
[β]Hunter_MGTOW0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Very upsetting. Very very upsetting.
[β]ohyoureligious0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Bought the system..? Like paid for a huge law suit..?
[β]tdh7920 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I don't understand how any judge could allow that.
[β]JohnBravo99900 points1 point2 points 5 years ago* (0 children) | Copy Link
I know what I would do. Of course the cunt would have known it too and she wouldnβt fuck me in the ass like that.
Read some history and develop a real appreciation for what happens to weak people in this world. Throw the leftist programming in the garbage and walk like a fucking man through life: Dangerous and Hard.
No, Iβm not telling you to β man upβ and marry a fucking whore with all the laws written to fuck you over. Iβm telling you that every person in your life should know you are not to be fucked with. Period. And people who do think about fucking with you should be afraid to do it if they are sane.
[β]careofKnives0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
RAAAMPAAAAAAAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!
[β]blu_thunderr0 points1 point2 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
That is absolutely garbage. Give that man his baby back
[β]AncapGhxst-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Damn that rich dude is the biggest cuck ahahahahahaha
[β]kaczan3-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
Isn't the daughter female? Why white knight for her? Oh, I'm sure she was a nawalt and would never hurt a man. THis place has become a trad-con cesspool.
[β]MGTOWrath2 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
So men should suppress their instincts to protect their children depending on whether it's a girl or a boy? How stupid are you exactly?
[β]icemanthrowaway123-1 points0 points1 point 5 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
"bought the system"
Can someone EILI5
[β]icemanthrowaway1232 points3 points4 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah I'm thinking he means the wife used the rich simp's resources to plow over any legal defense the father could've put together since he'd used all his funds providing for the child.
[β]MiddleAgedMGTOW-2 points-1 points0 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
Hypergamy doesnβt care
[+]_Anarchon_-8 points-7 points-6 points 5 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
This is what happens when people support the existence of government. Unless the man in the OP is an anarchist...he got what he asked for.
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