TRP is a toolbox of mindsets, skills and techniques that allows a guy to get better at picking up girls and maintaining a rotation of several short or long term relationships. MGTOW is a lifestyle where your goals and happiness depend on you and on noone else, specially women, mainly founded in the “no kids, no marriage, no cohabitation” trifecta.

Some time ago in this forum there was a certain animosity against TRP, of which I see less and less. Maybe it’s time to analyze how TRP and MGTOW fit, if at all.

For the record: I’m an old cat. I was in the old fastseduction forums when formhandle was the boss, “The Game” had not been written and all the rage was about Gunwitch, Swinggcat, Juggler and other lesser known yet very wise elders like Franco or ijjjjjjji. I’m beyond my mid-forties, was a pickup trainer in my country (Europe) back in the day, but stopped that because the industry turned into snake oil selling. Even though I refuse to live by labels, one could say that I am MGTOW and I do TRP.

OK so the deal is: I see recently a lot of young cats here who still yearn for female companion, still want to have sex but don’t want to get trapped, want to have a shot with this special girl in case NAWALT, or just plainly want to go on this one date because reasons.

First of all, there’s an inherent risk in having sex and relationships with women. Drama, STDs, lawfare, you name it. There are some of you that think these risks are not worth it (juice, squeeze) and you might be right. For you. In your context.

But let us not forget that we are men. We are adults and we are responsible for our actions. The keyword is "risk management”. Each of us have a different risk tolerance level. Some of us think that some sex, with some girls, is still worth it because we like it. Some of you don’t. That’s ok. If you really mean it, and it’s not just sour grapes, you don’t need TRP, good for you.

Context is important. For instance my country is nowhere near as woke as the USA (it’s going more down the drain every year, but that’s another issue). If I lived, say, in Canada, where if you glance sideways at a woman the judge grants her alimony, I would remain monk or move to another country.

So there’s that. The stage of your life also is important. In my late forties I have much much less desire for sex than I had in my twenties. Still some, since I work out hard and testosterone gives me a big sex drive pump.But, as Vasya says, young guys want sex more than they want to breathe, so while they’re at it, let’s give them some tools and let’s not send them to war armed with a wooden stick mmkay?

TRP allows you to have a set of skills that improve the juice/squeeze ratio. For instance, back to risk management, you can reduce risk a lot by screening hard. Even though AWALT, that means that all girls have the same basic desires, but how they manage them varies.

For instance not all girls are golddiggers, and you can screen out those by showing zero provider traits. As such, not all girls are BPD or drama queens, which is why you “don't stick your dick in crazy”. Single moms can be plated if you show only fucker traits and zero, and I mean literally zero, provider traits, but if you’re still struggling, better stay away from those. And so on.

However AWALT still remains true in the sense that she’ll treat you right only when you’re her top option. If you are not, she’ll monkey branch. She’ll shit test you in the attraction phase and she’ll comfort test you in the relationship phase. She’ll use drama to get her way and you’ll need to step up or your turn will end sooner rather than later.

Also cover your ass: keep a record of all interactions, use your own condoms to avoid babytraps and all that. There’s absolutely no reason to not keep the logistics down to a T.

OK these are just examples. TRP is a deep hole full of strategies, tactics and hacks. So how do you use these in your life?

In my thirties, when I still wanted to have a lot of the sweet secs, I used mostly the pickup part and tried to always keep several girls in my rotation, giving them more relationship comfort / provider vibes, I only brought up non-monogamy until after she wanted me to be her boyfriend, which caused some drama and I had to manage it, but the majority of time extended the shelf value of the plates to between 6 and 18 months.

In my forties my tolerance for drama has decreased a fuckton, so I just don’t bother managing their monogamy expectations anymore. Now I date a lot less, and I am much more upfront with the non monogamy issue (I still don’t say it until we’ve seen each other a few times, because if you bring it up too early is miscalibrated, same reason why you don’t plan your kids names in the first date. I run with a “let’s see where this goes” frame). The results? Less girls, but the ones I’m with are much more ok with non monogamy give me much less drama and stay with me longer. Less need for picking up, more time and energy for my projects.

Speaking of projects, the third example is when I had to do a very important project a few years ago and went almost monk, almost pure mgtow. During a couple years I focused all my time and energy in that project and forgot about dating. As I am already internally validated I don’t need to pick up girls or to have sex to feel good with myself, or to feel that I’m not alone nor any other crap the ape brain tries to dump on me. Coincidentally, the same has happened with the pandemic (when the pandemic came I kept the girls I had, but stopped cold turkey dating new ones, and I’ve been quite happy nevertheless).

Here are three examples of situations, from using a lot of TRP to only MGTOW full monk-mode. Of course YMMV but I’m sure you can think of some uses for your situation.

I would like to stop seeing here sad tales of young guys who tried to quit women altogether then got trapped by the mirage of an unicorn. It’s a veritable truth that many here are “one blowjob away from the plantation”. When you have the proper skill and mindset, that one blowjob is just another blowjob, way far from enough to be able to bring you back to the shackles.

If you don’t want the heat, for sure stay out of the kitchen. Your life, your way.

But if, every now and then, you want to play with fire, please get some fireplaying skills.