I loved reading the comments on my last post which was also my first post on this forum. Thank you guys for chipping in with your thoughts. I got an interesting comment that has prompted me to make another post. The guy was basically saying that i some issues in my past have fucked me up. I completely agree. I think all of us are made by our past anyway. I mean, i can tell you the stories till the sun goes down. But that means that i have issues to deal with. I don't think MGTOW is about escaping uncomfortable situations with women. I think it means taking charge as a full undivided person. It means reclaiming one's dignity of being seen as a man who is just as good as anyone else. That is what it's all about. By the way, i was curious about all that Incel talk and so i read through that Elliot Rodger manifesto and got to see what was in his mind that made him explode like that. I admit that i could not contain my laughter at that 'supreme gentleman' crap. Guys, that is the difference between MGTOW and Incel. Elliot was thinking that he is above everyone else so girls should basically bare themselves at his feet! As a MGTOW, i say that i am an average but nonetheless great guy who will work to prove himself in life without needing the validation of women. Because at the end of the day, it's not about the woman. It's about you and what you want out of life. Do you want to get into those sad marriages that suck all the juice out of your prime age of 30 - 45 years while your woman takes you for granted? Or do you want to enjoy your life to the fullest without the hassle of dealing with another person's moods and needs? I prefer the latter. It is the only choice that makes sense given my past.