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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points15 points 6 years ago (5 children) | Copy Link
They are very different. Depending on who you ask you will get many different answers (all of them partially true). So a few points, I am assuming the MRP approved guys will elaborate further:
TRP is skewed towards younger guys and dating. There is a lot of criticism of women and a lot of emphasis on appearance and spinning plates. A bit of mens rights thrown in as well.
MRP is skewed towards older guys and fixing messed up or dead bedroom relationships. A bigger emphasis on personal responsibility, little or no focus/ criticism on what total cunts women can be. A more intelligent and worldly group (few youths and does not suffer from the lowest commin denominator issues at TRP due to older and smaller membership).
The clearest distinction is that TRP focuses more on society and getting laid, MRP on building better men and fixing relationships, they have quite different goals and different audiences.
[–]AechzenMRP APPROVED1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (4 children) | Copy Link
a lot of criticism of women
Yeah. That's why I can't stand it over at TRP.
It's like complaining that it's cold outside in the winter. Just accept that the planet is on a tilted orbit, and put on a coat. Even better, learn out to ski and ice skate, and actually have fun with it.
There is quality stuff that shows up over there, but the signal-to-noise ratio is worse.
little or no focus/ criticism on what total cunts women can be
Here we call that victim puke and assume that the man somehow caused it. At the very least he didn't set a boundary that he would leave the relationship due to her shitty behavior.
[–][deleted] 2 points3 points4 points 6 years ago* (3 children) | Copy Link
Now this is one of my major beefs with MRP and why I remain more of a TRP guy (as much as I enjoy the more challenging and mature discussions here). The idea that men are somehow responsible for gaslighting, branch swinging, or other obnoxious and vile female behaviours, is repellent to me. The idea that any man can be "ALFA" enough to somehow "win" a woman's eternal affection (humans are not monogamous, albatross are) is idiotic and false. Women can and will act like cunts and the idea that if they do, it is somehow a man's fault, is fucking pathetic.
That is what feminists, maginas and SJWs do, they deny a woman agency. If she cheats, the guy was not paying her enough attention, if she is a bad mom, the man was not doing enough housework, if she has post natal depression then dad did not strap on a pair of latex mantits and breastfeed enough. I call BULLSHIT! You enable women with this bullshit stockholm syndrome logic.This is the primary (and probably only) point of divergence between what I preach and what weakandsensitive preaches.
To suggest that any failing of a woman is somehow the man's fault is a cop out. It is a pussy pass and it is antithetic to red pill logic (this sub still bears the red pill name even though you were kicked to the kerb). Again, I call bullshit, calling a woman acting like a cunt "victim puke" is utter horseshit and it is a fraud. The Manipulated Man tells is like it is, men are barely waking up to this bullshit and enabling women to behave that way just drags the movement backwards.
[–]Poofysmoof1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
It's not that MRP gives them a pass but we are honest that we MAY have been the cause and do not completely absolve ourselves from being responsible.
It's if we always looked at all the fucked up shit the women have done to us and always holding baggage how can we ever move on? We aren't young, we have gotten lazy, we have to work at maintaining our physiques, our bosses have beat us down so bad we find outlets and it is sometimes directed at our families. Getting olds a bitch, it's not for pussies.
The one thing that I've seen it posted a couple times, we don't say it too much but it's always there. All these improvements we do for ourselves and our families. Eventually we may decide it's time to move on to another life, because the one I have now doesn't appreciate even my improved self. I'd rather move on as a improved version of myself and not the one that was looking for this.
[–]AechzenMRP APPROVED0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I agree with you way more than you think I do.
The important part you didn't include in quotes was the part about "by not setting a boundary and enforcing it".
A quality man weeds out shitty women and moves on with his life. We are both wholly in agreement that shitty women exist.
[–]jm510 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I understand, it is not your fault.
[–]screechhaterMRP APPROVED5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
The difference is fix yourself before nexting what you believe is to blame
Own Your Shit. Be your worst judge and do what it takes to correct your weaknesses
[–]Red-Curious5 points6 points7 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
I'm only in a few days further than you, but my understanding is this:
TRP = bang all the girls (by being the best you), settle down only when it suits your desires, and even then keep your options open and leave her when you're bored
MRP = be the best you, this is how to get your LTR/wife attracted to you again; if she still rejects you, let her go or keep raising your SMV (even if you don't intend to use it outside the marriage) and hope for the best, but be super OI because you can't change her, only yourself
[–]thunderbeyond1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
You may also want to check out r/askmrp as this is a great resource for new members.
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (2 children) | Copy Link
The base MRP principle is 1) Improve yourself 2) Lead her to change 3) If she doesn't change, next if you cannot accept that or accept it and stop bitching about it.
The final part is much like a weighing of the scales. On one side you have all her good qualities. The other you have all her bad PLUS the unchangeable effects of divorce like being raped financially and less time with kids. For TRP, they don't have the negatives of divorce on their scale. In addition to making the decision on #3 much easier...it also enables them to completely skip 1 and 2 and simply say "I don't like what you're doing, next" even if the scenario is: "I'm a fat fuck and you won't fuck me." They don't have to improve. Someone may eventually fuck them.
[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR1 point2 points3 points 6 years ago (1 child) | Copy Link
I would argue that points 2 and 3 are irrelevant.
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
One could argue that 2 and 3 are redundant as well.
TRP = fold that hand, it isn't worth it.
MRP: Should have folded that hand but now that you're in the pot, might as well play to win.
[–]bogeyd6MRP MODERATOR0 points1 point2 points 6 years ago (0 children) | Copy Link
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