Dread Level 11: Advice for when this actually works?

Itstinksoutthere · 2017-04-13T15:28:48+00:00

Sounds like a big fat case of oneitis. If shits not better move on. All you have invested is time. You have improved she hasn't. Part of this whole deal is being able to accept that it is not working. Your LTR is low quality. If you are at dread level 11 and not seeing any improvement, move the fuck on its not going to get better. You now have the skills and tools to find your "preferred choice".

screechhater · 2017-04-13T22:47:10+00:00

I just cannot tell if you have read this or not...... and young lad, I just don't think you have the frame to make this work. So get it. Got it ?

I will help you to turn it around if you agree to pull your head out of your ass.

First:

After reading the steps of dread, you were supposed to get a GF, enjoy sex, and it would help with abundance, but since you are so butthurt with rejection it fogged your glasses. Since you have now dropped the proverbial bomb, along with skipping 10, you are in a quandary and cannot back up, or game over.

Second:

You must hold frame from here forward and refuse to drop into her frame, no matter the threat. Clear ?

Third:

It will be helpful for you to be present around the house happy go lucky and with IDGAF, because you finally got the cat out of the bag of not getting laid except on her terms (This is key, you must now remember you have set the tone for the relationship to be on your terms. Do not forget this) No matter what she says, you have the upper hand, remember this. This is an ultimate call out of her operating selfishly, and she is in the wrong, she knows it and if lot's of talks have gone know where, this is the "wake up" call. She may never admit it, but this is pretty fucking bad you have to verbalize this to get her attention.

Lastly:

When the conversation comes up, and it will, you must project and verbalize with comforting fortitude, that you will not allow a one sided relationship, because you did not sign up for it. The end. Make myself clear ? The end, this adds no value. Got it ?

Just FYI, I went to 10 last week and blurted out something a little different than FMor FU. I also snapped. (I am a callous motherfucker from my upbringing, but I finally had enough, also. Yes, the straw) She has been on eggshells.

Big_Daddy_PDX · 2017-04-14T03:30:39+00:00

If you need to get to level 11 before she actually puts work in, I'm skeptical of a turn around. My STBX was like that. She stalled very early in the turnaround and I let her stay where she was. At some point you wake up and see yourself in life and you like what you see because you know you've put the work in. You see results and your peers acknowledge the results and the caliber of women that see those results starts to climb. And then you look at your wife that is still acting like a nag, guppy, starfish and you realize you don't want her to turn it around.

No encores happen when you're putting the chairs away after the concert. The relationship has run its course.

0kool74 · 2017-04-14T15:18:36+00:00

After looking at my crystal ball, I see much hysterical bonding and the MOAST (that's Mother Of All Shit Testing in honor of the latest bomb strike) ahead in his future. And apparently OP must be autistic or doesn't have reading comprehension. Dread Level 11 is AFTER the F Me or F U talk and you actually go out and get someone else.....not the other way around.

BluepillProfessor · 2017-04-14T23:10:33+00:00

I conceived of 10 levels of Dread and only later added the other two when I saw reports of men who had actually cheated and it restored their sexual confidence and resparked interest from the wife (go figure).

The question is a very good one.

Coniferous_88 · 2017-04-13T14:51:05+00:00

Are you seriously this far along, and don't have an end goal in mind?

Dude, what do you want?

ReddJive · 2017-04-13T17:30:37+00:00

seriously?

So you lost your mind. Went to 11 and have no idea.

Brother, if you go that high you need a plan. You acted out of anger. I am not going to say as far as you were operating in her frame. I think you know the difference there.

Once you start going higher up those dread levels you already know what will happen. 10-11-12 are a short slope to divorce and end game. You jumped into the deep end of the pool not knowing how to swim.

You play the game at this level you play for keeps. It's the simple.

Redpillbrigade17 · 2017-04-13T19:11:08+00:00

Mine did not survive this level. She filed. I was ready for it mentally.

What are you getting from this relationship that makes you stay? If it's sex you want and her to fuck you with abandon, you may be trying to fix something that's not fixable... if it's not then you give that up for something. What?

Coniferous_88 · 2017-04-13T18:20:02+00:00

Faggot acting like a child here, with a giant covert contract:

I decided to check out...emotionally, I was done. I had invested over a year improving myself only to see marginal response from my LTR while all the other 'hotter, younger, tighter' types were literally throwing themselves at me.

proceeds to further victim puke all over woman

I told her I had been looking elsewhere.

and this gem :

..she's obviously wounded by the whole thing but her demeanor has changed. She realized she could lose me/was losing me. She realized I had readily available options (I don't think she thought this before), and perhaps she realized that my SMV was higher.

dude , she either told you she realized, or she did.

if she realized, you would be so busy getting head and ass and pussy from her , you wouldnt know when to post this shit.

I am guessing she told you she wanted you to stay. cried, begged. you said, yes, I love you dear. She said something like "ok but I need to trust you again, I don't know if I can..."

and just like that, all your hard work... there it goes..... see it...?

no?

that is because it is down the drain already.

alphabeta49 · 2017-04-13T17:59:27+00:00

Dude, you're at fucking level 11. You should have such mastery over yourself, such a clear mission, that you should be able to answer your own fucking question. You don't take it to level 11 with no mission unless you're a faggot and an idiot. That IS rambo, just latent. It's like you worked your ass off to climb Mount Everest, and now that you're actually at the top, you've decided to take your oxygen mask off and ask for the next step.

You SHOULD know what you want to do. The answer is so painfully obvious on the tip of my tongue, but I'm gonna resist saying it because you should fucking know.

Side note, I'm sensing a shit and shallow humble brag deep down in this post:

"Whoops, guys, I'm so awesome and girls are throwing themselves at me, I fucked one of them and wife found out about it. What do?"

OldRoke · 2017-04-14T07:26:42+00:00

It sounds like you tried everything to make her change by going through the dread levels (oneitis and mother of covert contracts).

This didn't work, because you wouldn't be posting on here if it did. Aka she still sucks or your relationship sucks.

And now you want to climb back down to being a beta phaggot because it didn't work and you think that you want to do that to keep the relationship?

Is she the person you want to be with, if you just met her would you put up with her shit?, is she draining your balls regularly, is she making your life fun?

[deleted] · 2017-04-14T16:32:20+00:00

For the life of me, i'll never understand why any man gets to Dread 11 when there are no kids. Too much work, too little reward.

Dump this bitch. Improve, get fit, be badass, spin a plate or two, and don't get into another relationship without unfucking yourself and the way you approach and handle relationships.

Coniferous_88 · 2017-04-13T16:07:55+00:00

Ok, so are you collecting data to make some sort of decision in a sort of open ended way and this is a sort of writing prompt? You omitted what you are trying to choose between or what your thoughts are or where you're trying to go.

I have young kids (that I adore) and I'm still fat and I love my wife and there's zero chance I'm actively looking for divorce right now. I don't spend time catching/releasing or whatever (sue me). Regardless, women I work with keep forgetting I'm married and keep trying to fix me up with their younger colleagues. Anyway, I've just kept at it with an attitude very much inspired by Wesley's approach with Buttercup or his approach when apprenticing with Dread Pirate Roberts--basically keep going without resentment or retaliation or judgment expecting the best of her until she wears herself out and reaches some point of self-awareness about the fact that what she's doing isn't something she can be proud of. Things had been pretty good since about a year ago. But when we returned from x-mas this year she had some sort of a realization followed by panic and apologized about being wrong and thanking me for being patient with her and not having left her already. It was cute. Is she sincere? I don't know and I don't really care. There's enough on my plate that I just take it day by day.

Title	Dread Level 11: Advice for when this actually works?
Author	Coniferous_88
Upvotes	8
Comments	67
Date	April 13, 2017 2:38 PM UTC (7 years ago)
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