49% of women, compared to 38% of men, go on to university in the UK.

PacmanWasALangolier · 2012-10-04T17:01:53+00:00

The article didn't say anything but is there a reason to this, are boys disadvantaged in school in some way?

I'm not really into either women's or men's rights, but the situation is the same in my country. The only cause I've heard experts discuss is that more boys have ADHD and similar problems.

Stephen_Morgan · 2012-10-04T17:52:49+00:00

Education has been specifically and explicitly changed to benefit women, or to redress the balance of thousands of years patriarchal oppression if you speak bull plop.

But if women were the declining minority in higher education and entering into the professions, would doubts like this be here? Or would there be calls for urgent action?

escobari · 2012-10-05T04:28:55+00:00

the cause of this gender gap remains uncertain
dont these people know anything about history, mankind or reality?

ostrakon · 2012-10-05T12:32:15+00:00

On the other hand, it's more socially acceptable for men to viable careers that require no degree, like construction. I don't necessarily see this as a problem, as women are going to need education more to compensate for the fact that they tend not to pursue occupations like plumbers, electricians, military careers, construction, and other relatively well-paying jobs that people tend not to have degrees for.

Hamakua · 2012-10-05T14:21:03+00:00

I have been staring at this headline for the better part of a day to figure out what is wrong with it and just figured it out.

Anyone who has been following education in the US knows about the 60/40 female/male enrollement in higher education split (and it is getting worse), so similar figures should be true of the Uk. It's how they broke down the percentages to hide a bigger problem. The above headline does 2 things in order to hide how dire the situation is, and both are subtle.

The first thing the headline does is soften the numbers of each respective gender going to college relative to the other.
50% of women is a larger number than 50% of men since women out-populate men in the UK. You could argue that they wanted to show something of a "raw proportional statistic" but then why didn't they defer to enrolled, but instead went the round-about way of sampling the population? I have never seen the method used in the last 10+ years except as usually a subcatagory addendum.
They also avoid, purposely it seems, the comparison straight from the student body, a much more reliable number as it also tends to track dropouts.
"Go on to university" does not account for 1st, 2nd, 3rd year drop out rates, which are available and are regulalry tracked.

The headline has bothered me for the better part of a day and I finally figured out why. Thought I'd share my thoughts.

InsertRelevantMeme · 2012-10-06T21:46:48+00:00

I'm in ireland but atleast here in my area girls where more encourage to get into higher education. Local girls school had people from local colleges in to talk about courses and then they brought them to the colleges multiple times to look around, where as we in the boys school did mainly hands on stuff such as carpentry etc as and where never brought to see any colleges or never discussed about going to one. In fact we we're encouraged to find jobs, our work placement was for 1 month each and we had to do three different work placement schemes but the girls school only had one 1 week placement. Now this could be because of the specific schools in my area but most of the lads in my year(13 in total) had some sort of job near the end of the leaving cert. Also wtf is up with ireland having very few mixed schools every single school in my area was ether boys only or girls only.

praetor · 2012-10-04T16:26:42+00:00

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DavidByron · 2012-10-04T19:48:00+00:00

Sounds a lot better than the US rates. I wonder if it's really only that bad.

ThePigman · 2012-10-05T01:17:40+00:00

All part of the feminist-plutocrat coalition's plan to fill the workforce with women. Don't expect it to get better -- both major parties are in on it.

namae_nanka · 2012-10-04T17:51:05+00:00

"The institute's director, Bahram Bekhradnia, says the cause of this gender gap remains uncertain."

well here is a hint, it starts with a 'd' and ends with 'iscrimination'.

""We just don't know," said Mr Bekhradnia."

stereotype effect of such news, you moron!!

"The introduction of GCSEs in the late 1980s coincided with the time that girls began to overtake boys in academic achievement."

from wiki:

'Pirie also observes that the GCSE focus on coursework has disadvantaged boys reversing the gender gap in attainment, to the degree where in all subjects girls outperform boys, including traditionally male subjects such as sciences and physical education."

Since coursework was taken off in maths, boys outscored girls in maths.

"However the report also shows that the greater success of women in education is a global pattern"

here be the dragons.

http://akarlin.com/2012/08/18/here-be-dragons-world-map-of-womens-studies-programs/

buster2209 · 2012-10-04T17:05:09+00:00

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heracleides · 2012-10-04T22:21:13+00:00

They're more likely to prolong their entrance into the real world by taking fluff courses that don't provide jobs. Men have to work to support these cases.

buster2209 · 2012-10-04T18:09:49+00:00

So? We have too many lawyers and western medicine is about profits, not healing. When women overtake men at science, technology, engineering, maths, and chemistry, then I'll give a shit.

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