https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trzSBHLLN4U
Feminism 101... 30% of victims are female, hence the issue gendered ONLY to females. The question is wht stats can femiisms hatered get away with? On feminism forum, they are already making 95% of black policed deaths being male, somehow women disproprtionatley affected.
Feminism has no place in egalatarinism. Its misandry and hypocrisy is to thte point of parody, and it is enough to now classify feminism as a hate movemnt.
With further research it turns out feminism today in its 4t wave, is infludence by people with mental illnesses, including paranoia, schizopehrania and depression.
Examining the history of many of the original feminists academics, one notices that many were sexually molested or suffered through some other violent abuse at some stage of their lives.
Andrea Dworkin who wrote “Women Hating”, was molested at the age of nine and severely abused by her first husband. Shulamith Firestone who wrote “The Dialectic of Sex: The Case for Feminist Revolution” had severe mental illness in the form of schizophrenia. Valerie Solanas who was considered one of the most radical feminists ever, writing the famous work “Scum Manifesto” rose up to fame after shooting the famous artist Andy Warhol. Her father molested her as a child and she ended up being committed to a psychiatric hospital after being diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia. Many of the other early feminists were first generation children from holocaust survivors with Epigenetic (traits inherited through the genes) trauma from their parents. Many feminists’ fathers had PTSD after returning from service or prison camps in World War 2 and continued the cycle of violence upon their children. PTSD inducing incidents cause the sufferers' brains to become hard wired to permanently hate and fear certain groups or types of people, and because the neurons become hard wired, there is little they can do to alter this long-enduring fearful revulsion. This type of reaction is also common to many war veterans after returning from combat. When someone has PTSD their perspective of the world is often very fixed to an alerted Amygdala flight or fight response. One has to ask how much of the opinions, and all the initial feminist doctrines and ideology relating to male patriarchal power, oppression, gender studies and related issues were written by women suffering PTSD or similar related conditions? There is no objective view possible if it is tainted through the lens of a fear and hatred from past traumatic events, in which the pain continues to be replayed thousands of times through self revised traumatic repetitions of the original episodes. This would be highlighted even further when it is echoed within groups who have all had a comparable experience, thus reaffirming and strengthening the belief collectively of what the original source of their trauma was.
People who have lost their power through a traumatic episode want someone to blame for the pain, suffering and disconnect they now feel, and will often fight for an alternative source of power to fill the vacuum of helplessness they feel. Old World War 2 and Vietnam veterans will often talk about hatred they still have for the “Japs”, “Krauts” and “Charlie”, even though many decades have passed since those wars had finished, many will drink, engage in dangerous behaviours and self medicate with various substances to temporarily fill the void. The psychological damage these early feminists had is no different to the ones the veterans face except who they identified as the enemy, in the feminist case it was men as a group who became known in feminist lore as “The Patriarchy”. So while there are hierarchies in the world and many of them are run by men, the concept of one great underlying oppressive group that subjugates and oppresses society and government is a paranoid and irrational view of someone absorbed in psychiatric distress, who is seeking for strategies to protect themselves and explain the origins of their perpetual despair and torment. If a world war two veteran suffering from PTSD were to tell you that “All German people are all evil” you could explain to them that it would be impossible for all members of a specific society to be that way, and how the populous had been indoctrinated to evil ideologies by dark prophets. This rational explanation though would not be enough because those damaged by trauma become deaf to logical reasoning surrounding it.
Many of those feminists who were suffering from deep trauma authored the original books and papers that became the bedrock of the feminist movement. Since then the mythology has endured and developed into a huge unverifiable here-say pseudo science, that has corrupted and held back studies within disciplines such as Sociology over half a century now.
If individuals are lost in an ideology, providing evidence contrary to their core belief threatens the ideology’s existence, so research bias (the process where the scientists performing the research influence the results in order to portray a certain outcome.) has become endemic to these feminist dominated sciences. The core of many feminist Sociology departments’ research has been based around the erroneous assumptions that patriarchal hierarchies and systemic oppression are the main source of most of the problems and dysfunction within our culture, while in truth it is really trauma that it is the foundational source of it.
By collecting the statistical data from an average town, calculating that only a small percentage of the men in this population need to be violent or have predatory tendencies for a large part of the women’s population to suffer at some point in their life some kind of traumatic episode. So even though there are men that do horrible things to women they only make up a small percentage of the total population of men. Those female victims of assault and trauma develop an unconscious bias, where they begin to see most if not all men in that population as bad, fearful or evil. This is why when the concept of the Patriarchy is mentioned many women resonate with it, because it seems to provide a very plausible explanation behind what has happened to them and other women.
Over a slow process feminists views intertwined themselves with Marxists’ ones creating a new hyper-normalisation where those lost within the ideology can no longer see the difference between the two. So if you want to be a Feminist fighting for women and other minorities rights you have to believe their Marxist ideology around an oppressor which it turns out is the Patriarchy. Traditional Feminine traits such as gentleness, empathy, sensitivity, caring, sweetness, compassion, tolerance, nurturing are not valued anymore as women can’t be seen to be weak or vulnerable. Once indoctrinated into the cult like ideology you can not rest or be at peace until the Patriarchy has been eliminated, so your mind and actions become swayed like an automaton with an individual objective, that justifies any unsavoury actions you may have to take in the process. A T-800 from the Terminator films would be the closest analogy in our contemporary mythology, in that you can’t plead, debate or negotiate with it, and it will destroy all that stand in its path to achieve what someone has programmed it to do.
This is even further muddled by movements such as climate change protesters, environmentalists, vegans, animal rights all blending into the 4th wave, and then all vying for influence and power within the movement. With all of them now believing the Patriarchy plays a great part in who is to blame in all their separate battles. Around the world many white straight women, Gay men and Jews are being removed from positions of power or are being dumped and replaced by trans, black lives matter and other minorities.
[–]mcmur 225 points226 points227 points (8 children) | Copy Link
This is such an obvious fact. Among literally all demographics in Canada men are murdered at 3-4x the rate of women.
We can only ever talk about how women are the victims though, and if you bring up the fact that there are legitimate men's issues as well in our society you'll get called a misogynist. Feminists are deeply sexist to the point where they don't even want to hear about men's issues.
[–]Run-OnWriter 48 points49 points50 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Fuckin' right. Bring up any male disadvantage or men's issue, especially the murder rate, and they will either change the subject, or deflect with a similar but separate issue, essentially ignoring basic facts.
[–]MBV-09-C 33 points34 points35 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Most usually "but men are the ones killing those men, so that's your problem, you fix it"
[–]Roary93 17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
But then want men to fix their issues 😂
[–]mhandanna[S] 13 points14 points15 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Silent on how FGM is performed by other women, the women are the cutters, the transporters, the shamers of the uncut, the propogaters of cutting
Or how most online abuse, including misogynyistc abuse and rape threats are done by other women
But more to the point, what does the gender of who killed you have anything to do with it?
VIolence against women as a category is a statisical gymastic approach of turning something that affects men more (violence) into somehow being about women
[–]Run-OnWriter 5 points6 points7 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeahh, gets complicated... :(
[–]for_unpopular_things 38 points39 points40 points (0 children) | Copy Link
yup. And it doesn't matter what men even do, because lack of benevolent sexism is interpreted as misogyny. Literally no way to have actual values that are consistent and interact with those people.
[–]LOLinDark 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
We need more men to speak out and generate statistics. We need to send a warning to female abusers - We Know Your Game! Your lies and your recognition of a man's need to retreat to contain himself and his dignity.
I stumbled across details about men who have had their penis cut-off by woman and yet it's another thing we don't hear about because once again the man wants to keep it quiet. The emotional stress and indignity leave such a guy suffering in a bad way.
I want them to speak out because the numbers are high very fucking high considering it involves removing a body part - really think about that form of attack and tell me if you've heard what I have throughout my years...
I've heard loads of females in my life-time saying things like "I'll cut his dick off" and they get little pressure for it but not once in my 37 years have I heard a man say a sentence that involves the mutualisation of a vagina or breasts.
What do you think might happen in response to a man threatening such a thing?
You know the defence here - it's just words or whatever. All I know is that statistics for male mutilation put a shiver through me and there are a lot of scary women out there. There are even more with these violent thoughts in their minds including many of those who are abused - because the abuse is less one way than can be proven in too many cases.
**cups balls**
[–]C2tiger 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I recently experienced this myself. I tried explaining mens issues to a class group chat (my project was on mens rights). This one girl tried to argue that women have problems too, and that I was a sexist for daring to point out that men can be discriminated against too.
Saying that one group has problems doesn't nullify another group's problems. That's the issue with modern feminism. They think that they are at such a high moral pedestal, that nobody else's problems matter.
[–]Silverfox17421 57 points58 points59 points (1 child) | Copy Link
LOL feminism is not egalitarian. Took me a long time to figure that out. I was a male feminist lite for ~35 years. I only turned against it when I started looking deeply into what it's all about.
Just be an Equalist. That way you can be for Men's Rights and also be for equal rights for women (which are still lacking in some areas). There are people who are discriminating against both men and women nowadays. The best MRA's should oppose discrimination, sexism, and oppression against both genders!
There's no need for us to copy the feminists and head down a sexist and chauvinist path. Let's take the high road and leave the feminists in the gutter where they threw themselves and choose to reside.
[–]mhandanna[S] 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Same, most anti feminists actually were feminists!!
You will enjoy the history:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gwsqix/excellent_overview_of_feminism_1st_wave_to/
Skip to the part where they talk about how modern feminsim is LITERALLY dervived from mentall ill peoeople with PTSD, schizophrenia, attmpeted murder so explains why modern feminsm has victmhood
[–]Ahlruin 46 points47 points48 points (19 children) | Copy Link
canada is not a nice country https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saskatoon_freezing_deaths
[–]j_dier 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
We’ve done some fucked up things to out First Nations. Look at the residential schools. Labeling the entire country not nice is incorrect, though.
[+]guarded_heart7 points [recovered] (5 children) | Copy Link
Canada is in the process of becoming a third world shithole thanks to Justin Castreau. He imported his voting base from other third world shitholes. And now the utter stupidity is running rampant, with migrants collecting free everything, while indigenous communities still languish in poverty (which is a huge can of worms, being some suffer because of systemic racism on part of the federal government, while others are just plain lazy or corrupt). This is just a huge pile of steaming shit that no one wants to fix.
[–]AveenoFresh 7 points8 points9 points (4 children) | Copy Link
I'm an immigrant in Canada, how can I get free shit? Is there a link or something? Lol
[–]guarded_heart 4 points5 points6 points (3 children) | Copy Link
I wouldn’t know since I’m indigenous 🤷♂️
[–]Ahlruin 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
shhh govt's just pretend you dont exist.
[–]guarded_heart 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Oh I know, even our own chief and council where I live doesn’t give a fuck about the people who voted for them. I just do my own thing and hope I don’t get caught in some deranged killer’s crosshairs.
[–]Ahlruin 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
if it makes you feel any better I also hope you never get caught in their crosshairs =l
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points (11 children) | Copy Link
Love how I can say something equally as insulting, but about America (which is more present as a "not nice" nation), and get given shit for it.
[–]The_superior_nugget 13 points14 points15 points (4 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but it's because it's so over done, America bad hurr Durr you don't look smart for saying it
[–]okeydokey503 1 point2 points3 points (1 child) | Copy Link
It's along the line of saying something so obvious, it's not worth mentioning.
[–]The_superior_nugget 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Exactly
[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points0 points (1 child) | Copy Link
You think I believe I’m smart pointing out the obvious? Ok mate.
[–]The_superior_nugget 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah, I do, because if it's so fucking obvious you don't need to point it out, mate.
[–]DontTrustChinaDonald 5 points6 points7 points (4 children) | Copy Link
That’s because every other comment on Reddit shits on America. People are over it. Talk about something else losers.
[–][deleted] -3 points-2 points-1 points (3 children) | Copy Link
America is down the shitter. What more is there to say? Besides, it’s currently the only relevant topic at hand. All the children have finally silenced about the whole “corona” situation.
[–]DontTrustChinaDonald 0 points1 point2 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Hey at least you got your shit talk in bud. I just told you we are tired of hearing it, are you retarded? Fuck outta here, have a downvote. I dont look through people’s comments but my guess is your profile is full of hate and anti America rhetoric. Like most Reddit users comment histories.
[–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point (1 child) | Copy Link
Couldn’t be further from the truth. I’m not anti-America. But nice assumption shithead ☺️
[–]DontTrustChinaDonald 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Fuck face 🙃
[–]BradenMer 17 points18 points19 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Tbh dedicating it to any gender is kinda a problem.
[–]TheAngryGoat 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Feminism - by definition - is the opposite of egalitarianism and equality.
[–]mhandanna[S] 6 points7 points8 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Its becoming beyond paraody now. I mean on the report they are literally saying "it would be a grave injustiice to include boys because this is a genered issue" What the actual fuck? And this isnt some little college campus meetup, this is a $350 million tax payer (see my thread about how men pay 100% of the tax in a country) inquiry that boys are completely excluded from.
ANyway more examples like this nee to be made into lists. I.e. the more obvious examples instead of focusing on obscure stuff. Then UN not feeding men and only feeding women is another one. How they gendered Ebola to women, prioritsing ALL healthcare (not even ebola) and food to women even thought they had no stats, and when stats came it showed it affects men and women the same... although they wont do the same for COVID
Anyway, I think it is to the point where we can safely exclude feminsim from any form of egalatarinism and actually classify it as a hate idealogy like nazism or anything else
[–]ThatDamnedRedneck 2 points3 points4 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Countries where this happens very quickly have the men ambushing the women to steal food, and other/worse things. Hungry people don't give a shit.
[–]mhandanna[S] 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
See the link... and then they blame the hungry men as proof that women only should be fed as its less violent... feminism 101
[–]Reptilian_Brain_420 13 points14 points15 points (2 children) | Copy Link
The basic reply when this was brought up was, "Get your own inquiry"
[–]plainwalk 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Heard that a lot when I brought it up.
[–]Raunchy_Potato 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And you know if men did that, feminists would scream "wHaT aBoUt ThE WaMxN????"
[–]carlea420 7 points8 points9 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I wonder where I could find information on this statistic
[+]shitholejedi4 points [recovered] (1 child) | Copy Link
The man who wanted boys and men to be added was fired.
https://vancouversun.com/opinion/columnists/missing-indigenous-womens-inquiry-adds-men-and-boys
[–]denyjunctionfunction 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Why am I not shocked that they frame their reason for looking into the men and boys to be a source of info to prevent harm from coming to the women and girls because the men are usually the perpetrators.
[–]DougDante 6 points7 points8 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Tweet with me to seek justice:
End.
[–]mhandanna[S] 3 points4 points5 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Twitter is vert effective for MRA, because it reaches normal people. A tweet with 100 likes, look at th analytics, it is read by 10,0000 sometimes.
MRA and even anti feminism has big followings on twitter (e.g. Titania Mcgrath has 520,000 k followers for the antifeminsm)... Janet Bloomfield was saying she was gettng weekly audience of 20,000,000 I assume not all unique hits
[–]DougDante 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
I wish.
[–]mhandanna[S] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yeah but tonnes of MRA on twitter, and ordinary men and women who support heavily... they have hundreds of thousands of followerss and MRA posts are very popular. Comment below on of their posts, especially if you get it early when the post is new (within a minute of posting) and they will go big
There are mainstream politicians and news reporters who are MRAs too... plenty of good stuff on twitter
[–]-WolfChop- 9 points10 points11 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I live in Canada and I’ve NEVER heard once about missing/murdered indigenous men... like ever. This is completely unacceptable, but what else do you expect form femanatzi’s?
[–]LOLinDark 2 points3 points4 points (0 children) | Copy Link
A lot of very emotional people with narrow-minded opinions are being allowed to move up the ranks and take positions of power with an obvious bias intended within their mandate. It's almost as if some individuals carry the pain of others like some sort of chosen-one. Their mission concerns me because their view of the world certainly is skewed!
Only time will tell what it does to society but I suspect there will be more discrimination than there ever was when men could have a Gold Club to themselves.
[–]yogibearandthekid 7 points8 points9 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Sadly that sounds about right. PC culture has destroyed society...
[–]omegaphallic 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
This is one of the issues that caused me to break with feminism and ultimately become an MRA. They exclude 70% of victims and then are surprised when so many FN folk wanted nothing to do with.
[–]SonofFinn 1 point2 points3 points (3 children) | Copy Link
Why is it that the 3rd wave feminists in America just seem a bit dumb but in other countries they seem evil? Does that affect work in other countries where the country of origin’s feminists seem stupid and other countries feminists seem evil?
[–]mhandanna[S] 1 point2 points3 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Answered here, you very informative. Skip to the point about PTSD, schinzophrenia... i.e. the feminsits who made modern feminism were litetally mentall ill which explains the victimhood:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gwsqix/excellent_overview_of_feminism_1st_wave_to/
(just click ctr + f and type in PTSD to jump to that)
[–]SonofFinn 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
I was meaning the perception. They seem more evil from the country you aren’t from, or maybe the accent makes it harder to ignore vs your own accent.
[–]SonofFinn 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Thanks for the info
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
White women have benefited the most from 50 years of affirmative action. They somehow weaseled themselves into being considered just as oppressed as blacks in the late 60s, so now they are in positions of power, punishing men for all of their own problems.
[–]Raunchy_Potato 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And this right here is why I don't give a fuck about what feminists call "women's issues." Because "women's issues" usually means they're ignoring male victims.
[–]carlea420 1 point2 points3 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Wow thank you for the links. I'm shocked.
[–]SimpleQuantum 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
Canada is not exactly nice to their indigenous people, even today. This is a gender issue, but also racial.
[–]ThatDamnedRedneck 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
The treatment is super uneven. In most of the country they're treated like second class citizens. At the same time, they ignore a lot of laws and the cops won't bother dealing with it because that would be racist. As a result the tribes that live near white people and aren't idiots can make a ton of cash by selling tax free gas/tobacco/weed to said white people.
I got a permanent ban from r/canada for pointing this out.
[–]Mode1961 -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
Why is it a gender issue, please explain.
[–]Henguim 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Ngl this is kinda a great copy pasta
[–]j_dier 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
Yup, this is Canada. Too bad the person on the left to represent Canadians is Trudeau
[–]GoelandAnonyme 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
What is your source for the 70 % claim?
[–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
It would have a place if they were trying to get women rights in the middle east but they are just men hating idiots
[–]Jasek19 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
And of course WHO and the UN are sucking their dicks saying “women are more likely to be affected” and “women are doing good jobs at working”. Either praise everyone, no one, or talk about the actual virus.
[–]raffu280 -1 points0 points1 point (0 children) | Copy Link
What did you expect? Women and the Left now feel that men SHOULD NOT HAVE ANY MEANING in society at all.
[+]Silverfox17421 -12 points-11 points-10 points (2 children) | Copy Link
About Patriarchy. I believe we live in both a Patriarchy and a Matriarchy nowadays. The Patriarchy was the old setup, and it wasn't right for women. But feminists, to their credit, have torn down much of the Patriarchy in the West.
What is left is a battered fort with some ramparts shot down and blown up, threatened with invaders, but retaining a huge force inside and still firing away with what guns it has. It's a very tough fort that's half-torn down. But it's still up there, and it's still oppressing women to some extent.
Of course, being humans, female victims turned into feminist victimizers. We see this everywhere, even in human abuse victims. It's simply a natural tendency for victims to not just want equality but to get revenge and want the upper hand.
Feminists are not for equality because women are an Identity Politics tribe playing a zero sum game as all these tribes play. It's everything for the women, nothing for men. Maximize women's gains and male dispossession and oppression. So women half-tore down the Patriarchy and constructed a Matriarchy in its stead. Which is now oppressing us men.
Decent MRA's should recognize that there are now systems of power set up to oppress both sexes and should commit to fight oppression against both sexes.
[–]mhandanna[S] 3 points4 points5 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You will really like this:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MensRights/comments/gwsqix/excellent_overview_of_feminism_1st_wave_to/
[–]RockmanXX 8 points9 points10 points (0 children) | Copy Link
You drank the Feminist Kool aids, Women were never "Victims" of the collective Men. Even before they had voting rights men died to protect them for over a millennia. Feminist historical revisionism paints history as a series of "Oppression" of women, which is far from the truth as possible.
"Decent"? This sub is getting infiltrated by these Menslib trolls, sneaking in their bullshit feminist agenda!! Patriarchy Theory is a BULLSHIT myth and you can shove it where the sun don't shine!
But women were NEVER "Victims", so its just a false sense of victimhood, men died in World War 1&2 to protect women.
[+]therenousername -16 points-15 points-14 points (3 children) | Copy Link
What will you do men are made to fight wars and to do hard manual labour women have fought for these same rights and to have the power to do the same stuff men do but no they want the cake and eat it to smh
[–]degenerate661 5 points6 points7 points (2 children) | Copy Link
punctuation
[–]therenousername -4 points-3 points-2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
No that's I cant be bothered with it ;) have a nice day correcting ppl well trying too
[–]degenerate661 4 points5 points6 points (0 children) | Copy Link
likewise, mate
[+]cgraus -23 points-22 points-21 points (5 children) | Copy Link
Men disappear hunting. Women get kidnapped and raped
[–]Mode1961 4 points5 points6 points (4 children) | Copy Link
That's some PRO LEVEL ignorant shit right now. Congrats you won "Ignorant Fool of the Decade" award with that post.
[–]Jakeybaby125 2 points3 points4 points (3 children) | Copy Link
She or he is a troll
[–]Mode1961 2 points3 points4 points (2 children) | Copy Link
I checked out their post history after my reply, Major Troll, posting the same man-hating shit all over the place.
[–]Jakeybaby125 0 points1 point2 points (1 child) | Copy Link
Not to mention all the 'right wingers and Trump supporters are fascist' thing and glorifying antifa.
[–]Mode1961 0 points1 point2 points (0 children) | Copy Link
exactly.