A woman's view as to why men are deserting Western women for Asian women

2016-08-08T13:02:38+00:00

If it were solely "pushing for their rights", I really don't think anyone would mind. Unfortunately, anything that smells of pushing for actual legal rights that are missing, or against discrimination that's supposedly institutionalized, barely passes the smell test. Even cursory digging shows that most feminist claims of discrimination or denial of rights is either outright fabricated or, at the very least, overblown in western culture.

What "pushing for their rights" really means is being outrageously demanding, acting entitled, and pretending you're a victim when you're in one of the most privileged classes on the planet.

factsmakeyoumad · 2016-08-08T15:24:49+00:00

Can confirm. Married a Vietnamese girl. It's like a different universe from dealing with these western misandrists.

ExpendableOne · 2016-08-08T13:16:29+00:00

Is this woman supposed to be some kind of expert? Because she seems to be really off in her reasoning as to why men might want to look elsewhere to find partners. It's not about "women getting their rights", it's a lot more about a general culture of misandry and how women just do not value non-traditional men. The fact is, men have fully embraced the working and independent woman, and that have every right men have and then some. The problem is that women still seek out men who can support them and take charge for them, rather than taking charge themselves, or who see their success as the baseline for how much their husbands should be making.

christianbrowny · 2016-08-08T13:59:40+00:00

Yeah it has nothing to do with been considered rich and been able to get a 20 year old when your 50.

Lethn · 2016-08-08T14:30:32+00:00

No it doesn't have anything to do with women 'pushing for their rights' as usual this is feminists trying to pin the blame on anything else except them.

The reason that western men are going for asian women is because for the most part asian women actually appreciate men coming up to them and asking them out. Not only that, they aren't infected by all this man-hating idiocy the way this woman is because rather than think perhaps maybe western women are being utter cunts to men she's deciding it's automatically to do with women gaining independence and fighting for their rights.

Let me explain why this is bullshit, especially if any western girls happen to be reading. I love a strong and independent girl and I particularly like an aggressive one. However as we know most western women are absolutely kidding themselves if they think that they're strong and independent.

In the end, who are the people they immediately go to whenever they have a problem? It's Men isn't it? Doesn't matter whether it's the police, the government or their desperate friendzoned guys they want to go and take care of problems for them.

I think one of the reasons as daft as it may be that I get so angry with these women is there's no bigger turn off for me than a woman who's trying to fake being a tough girl. I mean for fuck's sake, Milo found this very interesting and I don't blame him, many of these feminists for example are legit rape fantasists or are highly into BDSM and not the other way round.

Yet they're still trying to pretend they're amazing and strong but the only way they can stick up for themselves is relying on proxy violence via a man. From what we've seen, asian women simply don't do this in large numbers compared to western women, especially feminists. While they are certainly brought up in traditionalist societies which I don't approve of as much as feminism because I think forcing them on people is just as bad. They're going to have much less ridiculous views on men simply because they'll have grown up around them rather than being kept in these bubbles for years and fed all this ridiculous bullshit about how men are all out to rape them or treat them badly.

I was pleasantly surprised when I saw this interview in Japan with some Japanese girls who were remarkably understanding when it came to men and what they had to deal with in life. Compared to feminists, they were downright enlightened and some still had fairly modern western views on gender equality in general ( The egalitarian kind ) despite the society they were brought up in. So they clearly must have read some decent literature or talked to some nice people in their time compared to over here.

TLDR: Asian women aren't fed the same bullshit as western women when they are young, they're happy to approach or be approached by men in equal measure if they want it. They actually observe the real world and understand the kind of shit the average men go through rather than pin them as this very select few elite that rule the world.

MRA-automatron-2kb · 2016-08-08T17:10:54+00:00

She is partially correct. So many Western women feel that they are entitled to the perfect man, the perfect job, the perfect life and when they don't get that, they call discrimination. They abandon what primarily makes women attractive and instead choose to be brutish, pushy, and manly.

I enjoy a strong woman as much as the next guy, but I also need some femininity and when that's lost so is the attraction.

2016-08-08T16:51:38+00:00

Western women for some reason always find a way to justify acting like a dick. They also always play the victim.

miroku000 · 2016-08-08T15:29:52+00:00

I would offer an alternative theory. Asian women are on average thinner and tanner than white women. In Taiwan, women are on average more highly educated than American women. So, there is also that.

Saintmyname · 2016-08-08T12:35:03+00:00

The Gestapo is gonna get her soon.

Noel_S_Jytemotiv · 2016-08-08T17:10:46+00:00

So it's happening.

Why doesn't matter.

But hey, people have an agenda to push and are desperate for any "fact" that can "support" it.

BDMR_lurker · 2016-08-08T12:56:02+00:00

She doesn't sound like an American, does she?

I mean her accent, but it goes double for what she actually says.

GunOfSod · 2016-08-08T16:02:25+00:00

I love this. Nothing like voting with your feet. The shaming tactics are so transparently desperate.

libbylibertarian · 2016-08-08T16:33:38+00:00

As a man who deserted western woman for an asian woman I will answer as honestly as I can. There is nothing wrong with gender roles, and when both parties understand that, it makes for a blissful marriage.

feedmecarrots · 2016-08-08T19:23:14+00:00

I have been told that it is a pleasure to visit a culture that does not hate men. This came to me from someone who did contract work in Western China. Even if it is limited to socializing, it is a pleasure by comparison. I have also heard that when American women accept positions overseas, it is very hard for them to get dates. About Japan, it is a mess but it isn't feminism. It has gone majority herbivore, similar to MGTOW, but the men are avoiding the standard lifestyle of working for a salary that he hands over to his wife in return for an allowance that amounts to lunch money. To add to this, marriage is sexless and they are always yelling at each other.

DarthOvious · 2016-08-08T21:13:38+00:00

My wife is Thai and she is a far better woman than most western women. Our son comes first with pretty much everything and she acknowledges my importance as a father. She loves me to bits also which is great. Not saying it's a perfect relationship but it's still far better than what I would likely get from home.

Philarete · 2016-08-08T16:23:11+00:00

Western women are spoiled. As a white American man on the world scale I'm a great catch. Want citizenship to the greatest country on earth. Want your kids to be Americans? Want blue eyes and blonde hair in your gene pool? Want a man 6'2" with muscles and has been a athlete my whole life. Want to be a stay at home mom?

I'm 34 Three exgirlfriends got abortions. One proposal denied. Western women don't want marriage or children anymore. I'll just have to import my own woman who will think I'm good enough. My dad is on his fourth marriage and 7 abortions and two kids. He is now living in a homeless shelter for veterans. This is how western men have been treated.

2016-08-08T12:20:30+00:00

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Clockw0rk · 2016-08-08T18:59:27+00:00

IMO, Western women are angry at the world for not living up to the fairy tales they were mislead with by feminism.

No, you really can't be a single mom with three kids and have time for both family and career. The tiny amount of people that can do that are fucking professional athletes of their field.

Men in the west don't have this bullshit 'gender culture' that feminism tries to present itself as. Men are told how to live by they expectation that we need to be good workers and manage our time and priorities well; so we have no misplaced belief that we get to work 60 hours a week to support a family and get to be attentive parents.

Turns out, when you believe you can have everything and spend all of your time half-assing a dozen different identities, you don't have much time left for being a decent human being in a relationship.

It's a cultural problem. But since talking about cultural problems is a sacred taboo, it's easier to just avoid the whole mess and look for a partner from a less fucked up culture.

mind-strider · 2016-08-08T19:21:23+00:00

I've mentioned this on the sub before, my Chinese girlfriend is disappointed in the antics of western feminists where in some parts of China police will look the other way over a family literally selling a daughter.

reptiliandude · 2016-08-08T19:50:56+00:00

It would be far better for the Women's Rights movement to ditch the spokespeople for the aggrievement industry that has taken it over.

When Asian women push for their rights, they do so without embracing the western guilt mafias whose main objective is the acquisition of coin through extortion via the court systems, not the resolution of problems which can be exacerbated for even more coin through more extortion.

This parasitical industry hasn't taken hold in Asian countries, nor has the underlying mentality promoting such a way of addressing issues.

Many Asians frown upon western culture's millennial narcissism.

Fewer Asian women identify with this self-centered attitude and lean more towards their families, who often resolve problems with spouses through dialogue from a father or a mother.

This should be evident in how many Asians take their elderly parents into their homes to care for them and to allow them to enjoy their grandchildren, in distinct contrast to how many well-to-do Americans simply dump their own elderly parents off at the curb of retirement homes.

The mind-set of Eastern women is considerably different when it comes to their parents and their family.

kcmatic · 2016-08-08T20:02:38+00:00

Anybody find this woman with the accent and the calm rational very attractive

Agrias-Oaks · 2016-08-08T22:43:48+00:00

I find it very interesting, when an anime like this comes out, you see all the sorts of rage-outrage coming from angry legbeards in most of America/Europe, but usually women in Japan itself care very little about it.

Could it be that they're simply that they're more mature, and in general have more respect towards men? That by itself would make men flock towards them more, and want nothing with screaming harpies who feel threatened simply by the idea of men getting something for themselves.

CrustythePrawn · 2016-08-08T22:44:03+00:00

More on this issue at http://www.fighting4fair.com/uncategorized/hello-world/

fcb98292 · 2016-08-08T23:07:08+00:00

My wife is Indonesian. The domestic variety of feminist is intolerant of being second choice to any woman willing will treat a man like a king. I have no pity for them.

Albacorewing · 2016-08-09T02:15:05+00:00

Wow. So White women are now saying that White men should have no right to see Asian women.

This is racism, plain & simple.

Feminists always yell that The Patriarchy wants to control female sexuality. Why are they doing this sort of thing? Pretty hypocritical, I think.

2016-08-09T11:04:36+00:00

Or because Asian women are subservient to men and their are some guys who want that

2016-08-10T18:55:11+00:00

Women explaining why men do things = ok

Men explaining anything to women = "mansplaining"

LasherDeviance · 2016-08-08T18:09:00+00:00

She's almost right but I chop up a lot of this to the "grass is greener" effect.

The same stuff that white men say about western white women when they go and date Asian women, mirrors the same stuff that black men say when they date white women, and the same thing that Hispanic men say when they go date any non-hispanic.

I won't say that it isn't true, but there is a pattern to it and it's usually the guys who would date interracially anyway using this argument to justify it.

eixan · 2016-08-09T12:59:06+00:00

Men flock to Asian women because they are more feminine? Well no one is more feminine then japanese women however the MGTOW movement is strong est there

Asian workaholic culture predominantly effects men. In this video parodying male Japanese workaholic culture the men are in business suites actin like robots while the women are normal. Japanese men are expected to work such long hours that when japanese men retire japanese women complain that they don't recognize the man that they married because the men have spent so much of their lives in their offices working! The high expectations that Japanese women place on these men is causing men to give up on marriage in that country and is responsible for the countries lower birth rates as more Japanese men hold off on marriage till they get older.

So what do these men do now that they are lacking female attenion? They watch anime where all the characters are girls who do cute shit. It's a called Kawaii Anime. And sometimes their forced to embrace their own femininity like you see with the cnn intern.

The reason why Asian women are more feminine is probably because they are merely adopting the cultural zeitgeist that created by men through Kawaii anime.

So yeah their basically apppriatating what men see in women. In fact the clothing designs make far more sense then anything I have ever seen come out of a runway. Men are better at designing women's clothing then women are.

Which leads to this point which is perhaps we should let men entire into the dialogue of what societies idea of a women is

. Compare something like thiswhich is obviously made for the male gays like milo yiannopoulos who likes to encourage strait men to find "hot" wifes. To this which is targeted towards and written by women. Which is more empowering?

Cosmo has been around even longer then the gaming industry much less gaming journalism. Yet the crybullies have managed to take down gaming journalism and yet magazines like this continue to exist. I would think that the message that women are only valued for their bodies would be more hurtful from women then from obvious depictions of male sexual fantasies in videogames. Nobody walks away from a video game thinking that women should wear outfits like that all the time.

This leads up to my main point which is that I think the crybully movement intentionally tries to paint women as these pathetic weak willed creatures to lower men'so intellectual exspectactions of them as well as their sexual exspectactions. It's why we see stories that are written by men for the male gays to have such badass women at the same time we have author of the most popular teen fiction novel basically admitting that bell is supposed to be a flat character "I left out a detailed description of Bella in the book so that the reader could more easily step into her shoes". It's why they try to cannibalize the public's image of badass women "Oh you were looking for a strong independent women, well boys this is what a badass women looks like and it doesn't get any better then this. Sorry to disappoint". And they've succeeded with shit like this where they tell men that they're exspected to read their girlfriends minds. I find this shit and others like it implicitly unattractive in a women. Like I don't find unattractive because of the agruments I anticipate will happen. No I find it unattractive period! If your that wishy-washy about the basic tenants of your own existence then what about your feelings towards me?It's about lowering exspectactions

The thing is women's image in the public eye can be heavily contoured without losing its value. Why? Because men love women so so

much. They love women more than they like themselves. Which is because of neontony and because they have way way higher sex drives(only 24% of the visitors of pornhub are women most of them are lesbians according to the study because obviously the women who would otherwise be interested in porn would be interested in the stuff that men like. The chicken and the egg agrument isn't relevant because the porn industry is the most flexible industry in the world. There's transsexual midget porn but somehow porn exes haven't figured out how to pander to half of their potential market) so women can get away with being viewed is incompetent in societies eyes because society will still respect and care for them and crybullies probably know this.

muhmay · 2016-08-09T04:26:51+00:00

Lol y'all are waaay over-thinking this. A lot of guys just like something exotic. Guys don't watch Japanese porn because of their ideology about gender-roles or some shit like that. Women dig exotic too. Everyone digs a guy with an accent.

Title	A woman's view as to why men are deserting Western women for Asian women
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Date	August 8, 2016 10:18 AM UTC (7 years ago)
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