OK, so if you just get mad and murder your girlfriend that's not a bad thing, because it wasn't real domestic violence, since it wasn't about power and control?
generally science isn't about good or bad, but simply "why?"
How much would you be willing to bet that the stuff you reference is science, as you just described it?
I strongly suspect that it's done by advocate researchers who are VERY interested in what's good or bad (and even might bend the truth a bit if they deem it's for a good purpose).
However, he disagrees with most of your other claims
Which ones, on what basis? Do you know what I'm claiming or just making angry assumptions?
I'm mostly just dismissive, not angry. I generally assume that people trying to run in and say "All MRAs are wrong" are usually extremely ignorant.
My assumption was that you were implying that there's some "power + control" or "instrumentality" thing that makes male violence super-different, but can only be determined by mind reading. It's a fairly common claim.
OK, so let's get back to what you're angrily trying to defend, and why people think you're full of shit:
The article that contains the statistic you're referring to makes it a point to note that men & women generally use violence for different purposes. It says that men tend to use violence to control and dominate, whereas women tend to use it as a last resort method of self-defense.
This is your claim. You seem to be claiming Murray's article concurs on this point. Am I correct?
Here's a line from TFA:
Bit by bit, my original assumption that PV was about men dominating women has been contradicted by a mass of empirical evidence
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OK, so if you just get mad and murder your girlfriend that's not a bad thing, because it wasn't real domestic violence, since it wasn't about power and control?
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How much would you be willing to bet that the stuff you reference is science, as you just described it?
I strongly suspect that it's done by advocate researchers who are VERY interested in what's good or bad (and even might bend the truth a bit if they deem it's for a good purpose).
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Which ones, on what basis? Do you know what I'm claiming or just making angry assumptions?
I'm mostly just dismissive, not angry. I generally assume that people trying to run in and say "All MRAs are wrong" are usually extremely ignorant.
My assumption was that you were implying that there's some "power + control" or "instrumentality" thing that makes male violence super-different, but can only be determined by mind reading. It's a fairly common claim.
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OK, so let's get back to what you're angrily trying to defend, and why people think you're full of shit:
This is your claim. You seem to be claiming Murray's article concurs on this point. Am I correct?
Here's a line from TFA:
So .. um ... maybe try reading?
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My brother in law's dad got murdered by his girlfriend. She had anger issues, was a raging alcoholic, and had a knife. Poor guy didn't stand a chance.
Your statistics sure didn't help him. But actual domestic abuse resources available to men might have.
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Actually the statistics show otherwise and that infact the highest rate of domestic abuse/murder is most common amongst lesbian couples
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