Your analogy also is flawed because there is no part that says people from Ohio are fundamentally less likely to be as capable of programming strictly based on the fact that they're from Ohio and people from Ohio like certain things, not purely based on the fact that they were raissedd in Ohio, but also based on the simply truth of being from Ohio. The analogy is missing something analogous to biology
Honestly, I think the better approach is to use that bias to your advantage.
I'm a software engineer myself. When someone underestimates you, use that as inspiration to really tackle a huge project and impress someone higher up. The best revenge is success, and the shame is real for people who are dicks like that.
A coworker at my last job thought my code was absolutely worthless. I now have my own office and make twice what he does. He hasn't spoken to me since, but he's still doing the same thing he was when I worked with him.
With particular regard to software, you're in a rare position to create your own opportunities, most of the time doing it completely under the radar. Very rarely do you need to be "given" opportunities. There's always some way for you to improve things for the company, and identifying and implementing these solutions is central to a career in software.
This would be a much harder sell in other fields, like investing or law, which require you to work on cases and clients that are handed out to you.
Yep, I'm a feminist and a men's right supporter, which is not a contradiction as many here seem to believe. There are some issues women still face, and there are other issues men are dealing with. Both are serious and people should be understanding of the other side's experiences, instead of saying "my problems are worse than yours"
'Feminism' is not one homogenous group of people, as you said. I do not condone the behavior of a lot of people who call themselves feminists. I am, for example, not in favour of gender/race/minority quotas in workplaces. Is that the sort of thing you meant by things that benefit women at the expense of men?
Damn straight. I have a 7 year old girl and I asked her what she wanted to be when she grew up. She said a scientist. For her birthday, among all the ever after high dolls, I bought her a really cute black and pink microscope. And my wife is pregnant. With another girl. Fuck that extra shit. They will grow up to be strong smart independent individuals who excel
Apparently you've never worked a corporate job... If you think mass amounts of people are calling off of work due to political reasons without HR's knowledge then you are a fool.
Shut your cuck mouth. Also did you know the Jejunum is arguably the least appreciated part of the human body? It serves a very important function but it is often overlooked when referring to vital body parts and organs.
"Don't mind me I'll just post this memo that states that women are on average less likely to be good at tech jobs and then post it on a message board at work under my work account. It's OK because I've cited sources and formatted it really well. Also my employer is currently under Federal investigation for gender discrimination but I'm sure they'll be cool with it. Also I'll leave the memo up after it's blown up and been shared inside and outside the company."
It directly states that women may be, on average, less predisposed to a successful career in tech. It states that women are more focussed on family than on career and are "neurotic".
Google is under active fucking federal investigation for gender pay gap issues. They cannot have a leaked document stating that women are less qualified than men.
Further, it doesn't matter if it is true that the average women is more or less qualified than the average man for a job in tech. The problem is whether someone would let that assumption affect their opinion of a candidate for a job opening, raise, or promotion.
Find a SJW straw man somewhere outside your echo chamber.
I'm going to explain this again. The Dept. of Labor is investigating Google for gender discrimination. If found guilty, lots of money goes away and makes Google sad. If a Google employee is writing shit like this and it is leaked publicly, Google is more likely to have to pay huge fines.
Because the memo itself is literally an argument against women being in coding ? This post says Google is teaching them go to HR instead of focusing coding. Memo author used 1 study of Just under 2000 American college aged women to argue that women are in fact less capable of working in the field and should have to go to HR.
Wow so delusional that you think I'm questioning the content of said memo? I'm pointing out that this post contradicts the memo ya fucking idiot.
The person suggesting women stay out of coding is the memo author, not google. The person suggesting and showing that women are right to go to HR, is the memo author.
His source that concludes women are more neurotic is his supporting evidence as to why women coders are stressed.
If you're still lost don't feel bad. There are hundreds of other morons in here to make ya feel better.
Dude if you're seriously asking for the section and source of his for neuroticism then you seriously haven't read the memo.
Pro tip: once you read it and find the citation for the neuroticism claim linked via wikipedia, you'll need to locate a second paper to find the methodology behind the survey.
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I'm glad he has the
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Your analogy also is flawed because there is no part that says people from Ohio are fundamentally less likely to be as capable of programming strictly based on the fact that they're from Ohio and people from Ohio like certain things, not purely based on the fact that they were raissedd in Ohio, but also based on the simply truth of being from Ohio. The analogy is missing something analogous to biology
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Honestly, I think the better approach is to use that bias to your advantage.
I'm a software engineer myself. When someone underestimates you, use that as inspiration to really tackle a huge project and impress someone higher up. The best revenge is success, and the shame is real for people who are dicks like that.
A coworker at my last job thought my code was absolutely worthless. I now have my own office and make twice what he does. He hasn't spoken to me since, but he's still doing the same thing he was when I worked with him.
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Not that hard to fight for it in these cases.
With particular regard to software, you're in a rare position to create your own opportunities, most of the time doing it completely under the radar. Very rarely do you need to be "given" opportunities. There's always some way for you to improve things for the company, and identifying and implementing these solutions is central to a career in software.
This would be a much harder sell in other fields, like investing or law, which require you to work on cases and clients that are handed out to you.
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And some woman (feminist) at Google decided not to go to work even after the guy was fired, which is where this tweet is directed to.
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/19462/google-memo-says-men-and-women-are-different-women-amanda-prestigiacomo
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Yep, I'm a feminist and a men's right supporter, which is not a contradiction as many here seem to believe. There are some issues women still face, and there are other issues men are dealing with.
Both are serious and people should be understanding of the other side's experiences, instead of saying "my problems are worse than yours"
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'Feminism' is not one homogenous group of people, as you said. I do not condone the behavior of a lot of people who call themselves feminists.
I am, for example, not in favour of gender/race/minority quotas in workplaces. Is that the sort of thing you meant by things that benefit women at the expense of men?
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Damn straight. I have a 7 year old girl and I asked her what she wanted to be when she grew up. She said a scientist. For her birthday, among all the ever after high dolls, I bought her a really cute black and pink microscope. And my wife is pregnant. With another girl. Fuck that extra shit. They will grow up to be strong smart independent individuals who excel
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Lol you hang out in r/IncelTears, how do you guys not see the irony of how lame and unfuckable you are.
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Apparently you've never worked a corporate job... If you think mass amounts of people are calling off of work due to political reasons without HR's knowledge then you are a fool.
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sure, ignore the keywords in my post. That's fine, exemplify your stupidity.
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Shut your cuck mouth. Also did you know the Jejunum is arguably the least appreciated part of the human body? It serves a very important function but it is often overlooked when referring to vital body parts and organs.
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Lmao this guy obviously didn't read the memo.
Mods please delete this as it embarrasses this sub. Thanks
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The memo was 100% legit.
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"Don't mind me I'll just post this memo that states that women are on average less likely to be good at tech jobs and then post it on a message board at work under my work account. It's OK because I've cited sources and formatted it really well. Also my employer is currently under Federal investigation for gender discrimination but I'm sure they'll be cool with it. Also I'll leave the memo up after it's blown up and been shared inside and outside the company."
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I did not call the memo any of those things.
It directly states that women may be, on average, less predisposed to a successful career in tech. It states that women are more focussed on family than on career and are "neurotic".
Google is under active fucking federal investigation for gender pay gap issues. They cannot have a leaked document stating that women are less qualified than men.
Further, it doesn't matter if it is true that the average women is more or less qualified than the average man for a job in tech. The problem is whether someone would let that assumption affect their opinion of a candidate for a job opening, raise, or promotion.
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Find a SJW straw man somewhere outside your echo chamber.
I'm going to explain this again. The Dept. of Labor is investigating Google for gender discrimination. If found guilty, lots of money goes away and makes Google sad. If a Google employee is writing shit like this and it is leaked publicly, Google is more likely to have to pay huge fines.
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Lmao this guy obviously didn't read the memo.
Mods please delete this is as it embarrasses the sub. Thanks
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The memo was 100% legit.
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100% legitimately contradicts this post, correct!
Lmao see why people see and treat you like little boys ?
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Because the memo itself is literally an argument against women being in coding ? This post says Google is teaching them go to HR instead of focusing coding. Memo author used 1 study of Just under 2000 American college aged women to argue that women are in fact less capable of working in the field and should have to go to HR.
Lmao this guy obviously didn't read the memo.
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Wow so delusional that you think I'm questioning the content of said memo? I'm pointing out that this post contradicts the memo ya fucking idiot.
The person suggesting women stay out of coding is the memo author, not google. The person suggesting and showing that women are right to go to HR, is the memo author.
His source that concludes women are more neurotic is his supporting evidence as to why women coders are stressed.
If you're still lost don't feel bad. There are hundreds of other morons in here to make ya feel better.
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Dude if you're seriously asking for the section and source of his for neuroticism then you seriously haven't read the memo.
Pro tip: once you read it and find the citation for the neuroticism claim linked via wikipedia, you'll need to locate a second paper to find the methodology behind the survey.
Lmao this guy obviously didn't read the memo.
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4th page, bottom section.
Now stop needing your hand held and manup! Lmao I think you can handle it from here :)
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